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DOES RUBIO HAVE A FUTURE AS A NATIONAL CANDIDATE?
Powerline ^ | July 1, 2012 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 07/01/2013 8:48:25 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Would I vote for Rubio? I can’t imagine ever doing so in a Republican presidential primary or a Senate primary where there is a credible alternative. (The general election is an entirely different matter).

My opposition isn’t based solely on Rubio’s immigration stance, although this is by far the most consequential issue he has handled during his three years in Washington, so that it’s reasonable for those of us who strongly oppose his amnesty legislation to vote against him on this basis alone.

The other big problem is trust. Just three years ago, Rubio ran for the Senate as an unequivocal opponent of the kind of legislation he has now sponsored. A politician can, in good faith, change his mind, of course. But that doesn’t seem to be what happened here.

In his time as Speaker of the Florida House, before he ran for the Senate, Rubio’s positions were pro-illegal immigrant. And his position today is pro-illegal immigrant. I conclude, therefore, that the hard line he took as a Senate candidate against amnesty for illegal immigrants in 2010 was insincere. Accordingly, I don’t believe Rubio can be trusted.

Does any of this mean he should be “excommunicated” from the Republican Party of the conservative movement? No, I agree with John about this. Rubio’s positions are almost always those taken by Republicans and conservatives. Even his position on immigration isn’t anti-conservative. Reasonable conservatives can, and do, disagree about amnesty, etc.

In any event, there is no Pope of conservatism or Republicanism. Thus, Rubio couldn’t be excommunicated even if he deserved to be. All we can do is vote against him.

I intend to do so if he runs for president. But many Republicans, and many conservatives, will see the matter differently. So Rubio may have a future as a national candidate.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: cfr; decept; fl; florida; lyingliar; nwoglobalist; rubio
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To: Hojczyk

Pres. of La Raza or CAIR.


41 posted on 07/01/2013 9:10:47 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Hojczyk
In any event, there is no Pope of conservatism or Republicanism. Thus, Rubio couldn’t be excommunicated even if he deserved to be. All we can do is vote against him.

I intend to do so if he runs for president. But many Republicans, and many conservatives, will see the matter differently. So Rubio may have a future as a national candidate.

What a wishy-washy article based on ignorance. The author won't vote for Rubio to be POTUS (a position he, like Obama, is ineligible for) but he might vote for him in another political capacity.

Rubio is clearly no conservative and, if all things were equal, this would be his one and only term as a Senator. However, it would seem that, irrespective of Rubio's stated party affiliation, Floridians are likely to have another lieberal joining Sen. Nelson to represent them in the Senate.

Good job, Florida!

42 posted on 07/01/2013 9:12:31 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Hojczyk

Rubio is still getting very heated messages on his FB page. There are over 1200 in just one comment section alone. Two other items (dealing with the immigration bill) also are being commented on with one having around 170 and another a little over 400 comments. Total there are nearly 2000 comments with 99% being negative in less than a week.

As I read through a lot of the comments I saw less than 5 supporting him.

I think he is going to have a difficult time overcoming this in the eyes of conservatives.


43 posted on 07/01/2013 9:12:35 AM PDT by Texas56
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To: bert
Rubio is young. To consider him as a current Presidential candidate is folly

By the time 2104 rolls around, he'll be in the same age range as these others were when they recently ran for president & vice-president -- Sarah Palin, Obama, Paul Ryan.

Ted Cruz (42), Bobby Jindal (42) & Scott Walker (45) also get thrown into plenty of these conversations.

44 posted on 07/01/2013 9:15:07 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Texas56

I missed one section that had over 1,000 comments. A quick stroll through it showed very negative comments also. So in one week, he has had over 3,000 comments with 99% very negative.


45 posted on 07/01/2013 9:16:33 AM PDT by Texas56
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To: Hojczyk

He *did* ... past tense. Then he looked to McCain and Graham for guidance. It was all down hill from there. He's not going to be president any time soon. Nope. Fewer people will plug their noses and vote for him than did for Romney.


46 posted on 07/01/2013 9:17:18 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Hojczyk

If he’s lost the squishies over at Powerline, he is really toast.


47 posted on 07/01/2013 9:21:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Hojczyk

I’m not sure he has a future as a local candidate. I would support his catching of dogs, however.


48 posted on 07/01/2013 9:25:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Texas56

I really don’t know how they expect conservatives to have anything to give them anyway, when they keep supporting policies which destroy the right, or potentially “right-leaning” people, such as competition from illegal immigrants, and more taxes from their paychecks to support these illegals. They’d better somehow get all the votes from all our new “citizens”, because they are destroying their own base to create these “citizens”. The middle class has been their main support, but the wealthy elite and the parasitical bottom classes have teamed up to lean on that middle from both sides. They can’t create that many new wealthy elites, so they have to expand the parasitical bottom to recoup the votes lost from the destroyed middle.
I also think that they don’t care if that middle descends to the bottom-more government dependency for them, so more people voting for more government, and the cycle just feeds on itself.


49 posted on 07/01/2013 9:26:12 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: gdani
Well, a problem for Rubio is that he looks too young. Even if he is in the same age range as others, people don't get that impression from him, despite the receding hairline. He's too boyish.
50 posted on 07/01/2013 9:27:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: so_real

From what I’ve been reading on FR, he supported amnesty policies both before and after his Senate run. If true, then he did what so many have done-lied for expedience, to get elected to a whole new level, before returning to his real ambitions and policies.


51 posted on 07/01/2013 9:28:13 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Hojczyk

Not with Conservatives. With Republicans and independents, maybe.


52 posted on 07/01/2013 9:31:38 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Hojczyk

NO!


TOAST!


53 posted on 07/01/2013 9:32:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Hojczyk
Because of Rubio, the English language has two new common usage words:

Traitored: being promised by a politician, in strongest terms, a specific position they will take upon election, and then doing the opposite upon election. Ex: Rubio traitored his constituency regarding his promise to make securing the borders his first priority.

Primaried: what happens to a candidate when they spit in the faces of those who elected them. Ex: Rubio will be primaried if he ever runs for political office again.

54 posted on 07/01/2013 9:38:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: Viennacon
Nope. He’d be lucky to retain his senate seat at this point.

When the current illegals in Florida are legalized, and you add in all of their brethren soon to come, his senate seat is a lock.

55 posted on 07/01/2013 9:38:48 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Hojczyk

Powerline has idiots too...


56 posted on 07/01/2013 9:48:46 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Sans-Culotte

At least Satan would be honest and upfront in his plans to destroy all that is good.


57 posted on 07/01/2013 9:51:03 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Hojczyk

Powerline is done as a conservative blog. Sorry.


58 posted on 07/01/2013 9:51:34 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hojczyk

Not “does”, “did”. Don’t these people know how to use proper tense?


59 posted on 07/01/2013 9:52:00 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Hojczyk
Well, lets revisit the thread come 2016.

GOP voters have a habit of picking big government supporters. Every election, the GOP picks some dude that does silly things.

The GOP is the party of amnesty. So Rubio will be a great candidate for them.

60 posted on 07/01/2013 9:54:12 AM PDT by Theoria
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