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In Defense of Rachel Jeantel-After days of mocking, viewers of Zimmerman trial speak out...
The Root ^ | June 27, 2013 | Tracy Clayton

Posted on 06/28/2013 11:24:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Java4Jay
It isn’t what she says but how she says it. Total disrespect shown in court and not a word from the judge, that’s what pisses me off.

I don't think that was a bad thing necessarily.

It gave the jury the chance to see what Trayvon's friend was really like.

21 posted on 06/29/2013 12:02:23 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"her Southern accent" ?????

Yeah - Southern Port-au-Prince maybe.

Not southern USA, that's for sure.


22 posted on 06/29/2013 12:04:45 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Rubio's New Book: From Nobody To Senator, To Conservative savior, Then Back To Nobody")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two things.

Rachel is a functional idiot. I blame her parents and her segregated culture for that.

Secondly, the prosecution knew she was an idiot and a liar and someone who had no credibility at all and they had no business putting her on the stand knowing that even a first year law student could take her apart on cross examination.

BDLR is an unscrupulous pig who has not only destroyed George Zimmerman’s life, but also this poor unfortunate functional idiot.

All to appease the culture that created Rachel and other functional idiots like her.

The black culture, such as it is more destructive to the human spirit than the slave culture from whence it came. These people are their own slave masters, refusing to allow their children to be educated and insisting on passing down a tradition of poverty and ignorance.

And white limousine liberals, like the author of this screed, encourage this destruction as it creates a permanent government dependent underclass.


23 posted on 06/29/2013 12:10:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.ca)
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To: CottShop
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

24 posted on 06/29/2013 12:11:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[[We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”]]

And therein lies the crux of the situation


25 posted on 06/29/2013 12:21:02 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s Ebonics!


26 posted on 06/29/2013 12:47:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: CottShop

I’ve always taught my children what I consider the difference between stupid and ignorant.Stupid is doing things wrong when you know what’s right. Ignorant is when you don’t know something. Not trying to improve one’’s self is stupid.
My father (b,1899) came off a dirt farm in Alabama. Left the farm 1924 and self taught himself to electrical and a refrigeration engineer degrees. His creedo was if anyone else can do it so can I, even if it is brain surgery. He also invented some machinery safety equipment when he saw some fellow employees lose life and limbs to badly design machines he worked around.


27 posted on 06/29/2013 12:54:30 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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>> It is an otherness that makes whites uncomfortable

Uh, no.

>> and, apparently, shames blacks to the point of publicly attacking Jeantel for who she is.

Which is to say what, Tracy, that Jeantel’s qualities are defined by “who she is”? No worries, Tracy, we’ll adore you for “who you is” too, sista!

The stupid is in the analysis. My only problem with Jeantel is any absence of honesty.


28 posted on 06/29/2013 1:09:55 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Otherness?

ASSIMULATE !!

29 posted on 06/29/2013 2:00:57 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been deliberately avoiding this whole thing since it’s apparent that reason flew out the window long ago and rationality is nowhere to be found, but the introduction of Ms. Jeantel is so peculiar that I need to throw a few things out.

First off, Jeantel is a Haitian surname. Really low on the south Florida social pecking order among black people themselves. Haitians freak out American blacks, I’ve seen it many, many times, somewhere between fear and revulsion, as opposed to say the reaction to a devout, hardworking Christian university student who is African. That reaction is resentment verging upon hatred.

So, Trayvon was hanging with Ms. Jeantel, reported to have been his girlfriend if I’m not mistaken? She’s not attractive in the least. She reportedly suggested to Trayvon that Zimmerman might be a rapist. Now, why would that thought enter her mind? Implication appears to be that Trayvon was homosexual. Why would defense want to plant that suspicion among an all female jury? Weakness, sympathy.

Why would they concoct this cursive letter that she herself couldn’t read? Sympathy due to the mockery that they surely knew would come.

Back off mocking her, it’s what they want, imho. She couldn’t have been more mockable if she had been in a skit on SNL. Intentionally.


30 posted on 06/29/2013 2:17:38 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Given that (Black animosity towards Haitians) could it explain why the prosecution was ok with having no Blacks on the jury? That a jury of white woman would see their star witness as sympathetic. Especially if the defense overreached and treated her too harshly?


31 posted on 06/29/2013 2:24:57 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

They were counting on it, imho.


32 posted on 06/29/2013 2:27:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CottShop

Could be and the commentary programs are sure fanning the flames.


33 posted on 06/29/2013 2:48:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no problem with how she speaks.
I have a problem with what she says.
To her, lying is as natural as breathing.


34 posted on 06/29/2013 3:07:36 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: GOYAKLA
Stupid is doing things wrong when you know what’s right. Ignorant is when you don’t know something. Not trying to improve one’’s self is stupid.

Words have meanings.

Their etymology greatly influences common usage.

For example, the difference between stupid and ignorant. First take look at the etymology of the root word.

Ignorant ascribes a quality of ignoring. To ignore is to not know, to be unaware, to not pay attention to. It implies an act of volition to not consider information in one's thinking.

Stupid refers to being stunned in the senses, in grief, or shock, slow to think, amazed or confounded. Stupid refers the slowness of reasoning.

When you use the two words, I would tend to use them in an opposite fashion regarding 'ignorant'. A person might know something, but willfully chooses to not pay attention to it in his thinking, is whom I would describe as ignorant.

A word with similar meaning is 'dumb', but it generally is rooted with being mute or unable to speak.

In the case of Jeantel, I would describe her as having the ability to talk, or to jive, but poorly educated in how to speak, as in speaking to an assembly. Her lack of education is partly attributable to less academics, but predominantly influenced by a culture seeking to pay no attention to others, as in the promotion of arrogance.

35 posted on 06/29/2013 3:13:25 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I watched a good bit of her testimony via YouTube segments.

After listening to her for a quite a while, she actually has a bit of a charm to her for standing up for herself. I'm afraid that may make her more sympathetic to the jury.

However, she's a liar. A repeated liar. And the thing that struck me the most was the she lies when it's in HER best interest (not because she thinks she's helping in the conviction of TM's killer). She didn't want to make statements to the police and attorneys, so she lied about being 16. She didn't want to go to the funeral, so she lied about being hospitalized. She lies to when it best benefits HER.

And the oddest thing is that for someone who has CONSTANTLY talked and texted with TM for WEEKS and then abruptly stops, she claims she doesn't even know he's been killed for days/weeks?

And in all her testimony, I never saw a single tear for TM. None. She's cold or just doesn't understand the value of life (which may be another flaw of her youth culture).

And that letter to TM's parents? That was written to get TM's mom off her back. It practically screamed, “Here's what you're hounding me about. Here's the most minimalist letter I can write. Now leave me alone.” It was actually a cruel letter to a grieving mother.

Bottom line: She's a liar. She's only concerned about herself. And I think what she's covering up is that she egged TM on . . . to go back and confront GZ. She's not telling the whole truth . . . not by a long shot.

The most self-centered, emotionless, self-serving witness I've ever seen. I honestly don't think she cares anything about the death of TM . . . only that she won't be inconvenienced or that her complicity in his death won't be revealed.

36 posted on 06/29/2013 3:20:09 AM PDT by AUTiger83
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is an otherness that makes whites uncomfortable and, apparently, shames blacks to the point of publicly attacking Jeantel for who she is.

Embarrassing situations often make people uncomfortable, not one's otherness. (whatever that means) Otherness must mean stupid and arrogant based on her demeanor.

She is an embarrassment to Americans.

37 posted on 06/29/2013 3:20:53 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: AUTiger83
"Bottom line: She's a liar. She's only concerned about herself. And I think what she's covering up is that she egged TM on . . . to go back and confront GZ. She's not telling the whole truth . . . not by a long shot."

I think that really is what happened. We might see this come out later.

38 posted on 06/29/2013 3:33:10 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: denydenydeny

Excellent point.

+1


39 posted on 06/29/2013 3:36:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem is fed ed and a family unit behind her


40 posted on 06/29/2013 3:38:24 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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