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FBI director admits domestic use of drones
Rusiia Today ^ | 6/19 | rt

Posted on 06/19/2013 8:09:22 AM PDT by RummyChick

The FBI uses drones for domestic surveillance purposes, the head of the agency told Congress early Wednesday.

Robert Mueller, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, confirmed to lawmakers that the FBI owns several unmanned aerial vehicles, but has not adopted any strict policies or guidelines yet to govern the use of the controversial aircraft.

“Does the FBI use drones for surveillance on US soil?” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) asked Mr. Mueller during an oversight hearing on Capitol Hill Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Yes,” Mueller responded bluntly, adding that the FBI’s operation of drones is “very seldom.”

Asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) to elaborate, Mueller added, “It’s very seldom used and generally used in a particular incident where you need the capability.” Earlier in the morning, however, Mueller said that the agency was only now working to establish set rule for the drone program.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhogwot; counterterrorism; deathfromthesky; domesticdrones; donutwatch; drone; drones; fbi; jihadinamerica; mueller; muellerdrones; nsa; obama; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror; youneedthecapability
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To: mandaladon

Yeah, because elections matter anymore. Right?


41 posted on 06/19/2013 11:22:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: PghBaldy

They don’t need to get down to 6 feet above your property. Spy satellites can read a car’s license plates from low earth orbit. A surveillance drone can do even better flying along just above the rooftops over your property, and even listen to conversations in the backyard or patio. Should it be legal? That will be determined in subsequent case law, and the courts determination of a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” Until case law catches up with technology, nothing prevents a police drone from buzzing around your property like a common housefly, peering into open windows, or hovering over your pool party.


42 posted on 06/19/2013 11:24:41 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: RummyChick

Drones are a threat to privacy but the NSA isn’t? I guess I just don’t get that.


43 posted on 06/19/2013 11:29:02 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon
They are not using drones to stop illegal aliens but they are using it against American citizens. We need to stop this BS. Vote any politician (Democrat or Republican) who supports this crap out of office.

Too bad the official State Press won't ask these kinds of questions... I'd like to know how drones are being used in the United States and against what groups...

If every US Agency is like the IRS - and targeting people based on their political beliefs = then it's time to elect people on a single issue - cutting 'programs'...

44 posted on 06/19/2013 11:52:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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To: Travis McGee

It is where we are headed: “Well, we smoked the speeder we couldn’t catch for public safety. I mean, if we hadn’t smoked his ass using a drone missile strike he may have run into somebody. The family? Oh, you mean the collateral damage recipients? Well, that is the consequences of the speeder racing down the freeway. Sorry to the family but it wasn’t our fault.”


45 posted on 06/19/2013 12:04:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: RummyChick

“It’s very seldom used and generally used in a particular incident where you need the capability.”

He could apply the same logic to using HellFire missiles. For instance, on Justin Beiber.


46 posted on 06/19/2013 12:07:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick
It's days like these where I'm sad that Lil' Kim of the NORKS didn't make good on his threat to nuke DC.

Oh hai NSA

47 posted on 06/19/2013 12:11:27 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good one. I agree with you too.


48 posted on 06/19/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Scratch “possible” and we’re on the same page.


49 posted on 06/19/2013 12:27:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Another Bush appointee.


50 posted on 06/19/2013 12:30:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Wonderful...


51 posted on 06/19/2013 12:37:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: mandaladon

I see what is going on. First the ammo. Then the NSA spying. Now the drones.

Krauthammer on drones :

“I’m going to go hard left on you here, I’m going ACLU. I don’t want regulations, I don’t want restrictions, I want a ban on this. Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didn’t like standing armies, it has all kinds of statutes of using the army in the country.

A drone is a high-tech version of an old army and a musket. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. I don’t want to see it hovering over anybody’s home. Yes, you can say we have satellites, we’ve got Google Street View and London has a camera on every street corner but that’s not an excuse to cave in on everything else and accept a society where you’re always under — being watched by the government. This is not what we want.

I would say that you ban it under all circumstances and I would predict, I’m not encouraging, but I an predicting that the first guy who uses a Second Amendment weapon to bring a drone down that’s been hovering over his house is going to be a folk hero in this country.”


52 posted on 06/19/2013 12:40:38 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is costly.)
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To: RummyChick

There is already precident for using drones domestically in order to monitor livestock on farms, and also by the EPA to monitor water matters as premise to levy huge fines.

Currently weapons makers are looking to mount small .50 weapons (variations on the familiar Barrett .50 cal) on smallish drones (on the HUNTER scale).


53 posted on 06/19/2013 12:45:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ann Archy
I don’t know about drones, but I’ll never believe that Breitbart had a NORMAL Heart attack!!

Yep, agreed. He had the WhiteWashingHouse dirt and was ready to use it. May he rest in peace.

54 posted on 06/19/2013 12:45:32 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: RummyChick

Watch for a spike in the sale of practice rifle grenades. A rifle grenade, dragging a long string or light rope is a two-dollar way to bring down one of these things within a range of maybe 900 vertical feet. Mueller had best include “standoff” in his beand new operational guidelines. That is to say keep his nose at least that far away from anybody’s business. Any rifle that can mount a 22 millimeter grenade launcher can fire a dummy line-dragging grenade.


55 posted on 06/19/2013 12:46:20 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: DoughtyOne

The gift that keeps on giving....


56 posted on 06/19/2013 12:47:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: OwenKellogg

I agree with Krauthammer on this one. Outlaw the drones.


57 posted on 06/19/2013 12:47:52 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes, we get these linker open wounds unfortunately.

My big concern is for how many times Justice Roberts is going to screw us over the years.


58 posted on 06/19/2013 12:48:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Cyman
The question should have been are they ARMED drones?

Answer the question with a question-- What good is a gun if it is not loaded? I'll bet ya that they have video, photo, sound mic's, infared, you name it, they have it. Including weapons. Orwell's 1984 is here.

59 posted on 06/19/2013 12:50:57 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Where’s that Domino’s Pizza drone when you need it?


60 posted on 06/19/2013 12:51:59 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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