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Rush Limbaugh: Abortion at The Root of U.S. Cultural Decay
Breitbart ^ | 16 Jun 2013 | by Dr. Susan Berry

Posted on 06/17/2013 6:21:13 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

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To: US Navy Vet

The socialist business model is “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. In reality few citizens produce more economic resources on balance than they consume and thus the more citizens who come under control of government, the less prosperous society is. Government views citizens on a net cost basis.

Capitalism can only increase wealth via free exchange. The more people there are and the more they have opportunity to exchange the more wealth they create.

In a perverse way, socialist governments have an economic incentive to abort children, especially those in a lower level demographic. This is yet one more way that the welfare state corrodes and destroys human dignity.


41 posted on 06/17/2013 7:10:11 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: schm0e
Think of all that's happened since April 22.

Thanks for the link to the Weigel article. I remember the shock of hearing that statement to Planned Parenthood, the first time ever a sitting U.S. president addressed the evil spawn of Margaret Sanger, and thinking that he just exceeded his previous bounds of blasphemy and evil. I prayed for justice for the souls of the innocents.

It is quite comforting and hopeful to consider that the timing of the revealing of the scandals may have been ordered from Heaven in response to such blasphemy.

42 posted on 06/17/2013 7:12:40 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: PatHimself

Perhaps... But at least they would be legal citizens, subject to taxation and all the other perks/benefits/responsibilities of citizenship, and would not be sending most of their money to a foreign country.


43 posted on 06/17/2013 7:32:40 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: MrB

What has been the result?
Children and the unborn pay.

This is not new. We’ve been punishing the child for centuries. That didn’t work well either. Should we just continue to do what doesn’t work or puts children in jeopardy or hardship, all so men don’t have to take responsibility?

How about men step up and take their share of responsibility for children created.

Your attitude is why some people equate conservative men with the Taliban, who always blame the woman for everything.

There is ZERO excuse for either parent to not take responsibility for their actions. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY is a conservative concept ... some conservative men don’t like when it applies to them as well.

Age old, age old


44 posted on 06/17/2013 8:09:26 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Arlis

Abortion has always existed. So has baby abandonment (research baby farming), infanticide, etc. These are millennia old practices, they didn’t just start during the Free Sex era.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 8:13:19 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Yes, yes... the humanism is showing through.
You’re expressing the world’s opinion.

It “doesn’t work”, in the world’s opinion, because we’re following “outdated” ways of doing things. That’s humanism in a nutshell - people are getting better all the time, so we need to reject what we used to do.

The biblical way is not “blaming women for everything”, not at all, it actually places all the responsibility on men - fathers & husbands, just as you desire. And yes, it IS “age old, age old”, as in “eternal”.

But, it requires overcoming the “age old” desire to be your own god instead of admitting that the Lord knows better than you.


46 posted on 06/17/2013 8:17:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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By “placing the all the responsibility on men” it gets re-placed back on women and children. Fathers kill their daughters or the threat of that causes daughter to kill themselves or their unborn in order to save their own lives. Of the family disposes of the baby in order to save their ‘honor’. The baby pays.

So the responsibility has NEVER been on men, it is always shifted to women, and their babies. And the men who actually co-create the children do not take the responsibility either.

It seems to me the Lord loves life, not death. He would not want women or their babies lives to be at risk.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is just that. It’s personal. That means the TWO people who start a new life are responsible for that new life.

What you want is to shift all the responsibility to the woman, and ultimately to the baby. That is nothing but pure cowardice. Always has been.

History shows that is it the baby/child who always ends up paying for the sins of their parents. How about we not do that anymore?

You said: “How is it “not logical” to impose a penalty on the key point where societally destructive behavior can be thwarted?”

That is an ends justify the means concept (very liberal concept by the way). If we want to go that route, let’s thwart MEN who want sex free from responsibility and who will protect that right at all costs (including by death imposing death).

By the way, your “gateway” concept was invented wholly by men who want to defer personal responsibility onto someone else.

You want ends justify the means? Let’s have it. I can think of many ways to do that.

Let’s start by imposing a penalty on all men who father a child out of wedlock (or inside wedlock as many married men also abandon their children).

Ends justify the means? Bring it.


47 posted on 06/17/2013 8:38:15 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Have a nice day.


48 posted on 06/17/2013 8:44:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

You too!


49 posted on 06/17/2013 8:58:51 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It is quite comforting and hopeful to consider that the timing of the revealing of the scandals may have been ordered from Heaven in response to such blasphemy.

It is to me. However, it doesn't mean America's days of suffering are over. Our blasphemy didn't begin with Obama - he's only the embodiment of it.

He will go down. I cannot see how the entire nation will not suffer as a result. It is even happening already, is it not?

50 posted on 06/17/2013 10:58:47 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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