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Why Is Gay Porn So Popular in Pakistan?
Mother Jones ^ | Thu Jun. 13, 2013 | Alex Park

Posted on 06/16/2013 7:21:33 PM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 06/16/2013 7:34:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Earlier this month, the Pew Research Center published results of a public survey of gay tolerance in 39 countries worldwide. The numbers are fairly unsurprising: While a high proportion of respondents in Western Europe and North America answered "yes" to the question "Should society accept homosexuality?" few respondents in the Middle East and Africa agreed with them.

Among the least tolerant nations surveyed was Pakistan, where only 2 percent of those surveyed said society should accept homosexuality. That statistic might be unsurprising, considering that gay sex is illegal under the Pakistani penal code. But what is surprising is how those views compare to Pakistani search traffic around gay-porn-related terms.

As of this writing, Pakistan is by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms "shemale sex," "teen anal sex," and "man [snip] man," according to Google Trends. Pakistan also ranks second in the world (after similarly gay-intolerant Kenya) for volume of searches for the search term "gay sex pics."

In its report, Pew noted that countries exhibiting the highest levels of gay tolerance are largely secular, whereas nations where religion is central to public life—such as Egypt, Nigeria, and Pakistan—tend to reject homosexuality. But in Pakistan, what's even more peculiar is that the highest number of hits for some of these terms, including "shemale sex," come not from Pakistan's cosmopolitan centers, but from Peshawar, a bastion of conservative Islam, lately known in the West as a counterterrorism frontline.

Farahnaz Ispahani, an expert in Pakistani minorities at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a former member of Pakistan's parliament, says that homosexuality is a taboo subject throughout the country. In major cities such as Lahore and Karachi, gays can develop a network of allies outside their tribe or family, but in conservative Peshawar, gay identity is more complicated. Part of the popularity of gay porn could stem from the fact that even highly observant Muslim males often have physical relationships with men without considering themselves gay, she says.

"The real love they can have that most of us find with a partner, they find with men," Ispahani says. "They mostly see their wives as the mother of their children."

At the same time, she says, persecution of minorities, including gays, has reached an all-time high in Pakistan, and discussing homosexuality openly in public is virtually forbidden. "Religious extremism is at a height today," she says. "Hindus are being forced to convert, Christians are being burned alive—there's very little personal safety for those seen as 'the other.' So what do [gay Pakistanis] do? They turn to pornography because they can't live their lives openly."

Shereen El Feki, author of the recent book Sex and the Citadel: Intimate Life in a Changing Arab World, says the discrepancy between perceptions around homosexuality and its apparent reality in Pakistan is consistent with her own findings in the Middle East, where, in recent years, the dialogue around sexual identity has been co-opted by fundamentalist clerics.

"Islamic conservatives, whether they're actually in power or the governments in power are trying to placate them, they will tend to go to very narrow definitions of Islam," she says. "One of the easiest ways to do this is to come down hard on the role of women, and particularly around sex and homosexuality."

Long before the rise of Islamic conservatism, El Feki says, the Middle East and India had a literary tradition that celebrated gay love, but in recent years, that openness has been forgotten.

"You find in most civilizations in the Global South a much more open approach to homosexuality—irrespective of its status in religious and theological doctrine—than you find today," she says. "So very often, any attempt to open a dialogue in the Arab region is branded as some 'Western conspiracy' to undermine traditional Arab and Muslim values. The reality is that long before the West was talking openly about homosexuality, Arabs in particular were writing about this very frankly. Our history has come to be rewritten by Islamic conservatives."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: africa; egypt; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; internet; kenya; middleeast; muslims; pakistan; pornography; religionofpeace; sexualfrustration; socialmedia; socialnetworks

1 posted on 06/16/2013 7:21:33 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Goat shortage?


2 posted on 06/16/2013 7:22:09 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: presidio9

No mention on ghosts?


3 posted on 06/16/2013 7:24:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Err goats. Typo


4 posted on 06/16/2013 7:24:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: presidio9
Why Is Gay Porn So Popular in Pakistan?

Because they're a bunch of Pakirs.

5 posted on 06/16/2013 7:25:08 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: presidio9

Worthless bloody savages. And they think that they as muzzies are supreme to rule over us “infidels”.

The term “third world s***hole” applies to Paki land and Somali land like no other places on earth.

It’s going to come to war yet.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 7:25:53 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: presidio9

When they say, “mount up”, it applies to only half of them and no horses are involved!


7 posted on 06/16/2013 7:26:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (UN Secretary General Barki-At-Moon says, "Save the planet - eat more bugs"!)
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To: presidio9
No idea...


8 posted on 06/16/2013 7:27:49 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: presidio9

This could explain it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL357BrwK7c


9 posted on 06/16/2013 7:29:03 PM PDT by garjog (This message monitored by the IRS and the NSA to improve customer service. Thank you.)
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To: null and void

O Snap! LOL!


10 posted on 06/16/2013 7:29:13 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: presidio9
Moose-limbs think they can have perverted sex and not be homosexual (think Baghdad Bob). Same as black men on-the-down-low, such as the pResident of the White Hut, Bathhouse Barry.
11 posted on 06/16/2013 7:29:51 PM PDT by twister881
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To: presidio9

There’s a paradox in the Muslim world. On the one hand, they stone or behead people for homosexual behavior. On the other hand, boy prostitutes have always been common in Muslim countries, and homosexuals from Europe and America who wanted that kind of thing used to travel to North Africa or the Middle East to get it.

I think the answer is that homosexuality involves a dominant male and a receptive one, and among the people who engage in this sort of thing, the dominant male has a certain respect, and the subordinate male is despised.

That was the case in the ancient world, and in many different societies. The Nazis sent homosexuals to the gas chambers. But some of the highest ranking Nazis just happened to be homosexuals, and they were pretty open about it. That was OK, because they were dominant, and the guys sent to the gas chambers were subordinate.

It’s a power thing. Something that the Nazis and the Muzzies have in common. But not something that the politically correct want to think about.


12 posted on 06/16/2013 7:31:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: null and void
Baraq, you look like a pole smoker in that picture.

Hey NSA, don't you think so too?

5.56mm

13 posted on 06/16/2013 7:31:29 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: null and void

As I’ve said before two normal guys just don’t sit on a couch like that - even if there is junk piled on the end.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 7:34:47 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: null and void

That pic speaks volumes. 10 bucks says Obama is the catcher..


15 posted on 06/16/2013 7:35:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: presidio9

Gay porn; is that like smiling happy people cavorting merrily in the nude?


16 posted on 06/16/2013 7:38:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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17 posted on 06/16/2013 7:38:51 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: presidio9

Not enough sheep and goats?


18 posted on 06/16/2013 7:41:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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19 posted on 06/16/2013 7:43:10 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: cardinal4
10 bucks says Obama is the catcher..

No bet.


20 posted on 06/16/2013 7:43:29 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: presidio9
June 2013 centerfold. They had a hard time making up their mind whether they wanted one hump or two.
21 posted on 06/16/2013 7:43:37 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: presidio9

I’ve heard that many Middle Eastern male babies use as their first spoken phrase “I love ewe.”


22 posted on 06/16/2013 7:43:43 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: null and void

Groucho isn’t wearing sox.


23 posted on 06/16/2013 7:43:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: Cicero
In pagan societies, and Islamic society is definitely included, women tend to be very tightly sequestered. Men have no access until married which may not happen at a particularly young age. Women outside of an unmarried young man's immediatê family are mythical creatures about whome he has heard much as with those 72 virgins or raisins he will get when he dies gloriously slaying infidels. Anyhow, in scuc ocieties, and the wonderful ancient Greeks were prime examples. Warriors- young men take boys as consorts until the young men get married off by their families. Young boys grew up to be young men and reverse the relationship.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html

The URL is Dennis Prager's explanation and history of the phenomenon and why it is Judeo Christian societies that have prospered in the West and others have not.

24 posted on 06/16/2013 7:50:39 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: presidio9
One man + four wives <=> three very lonely and frustrated guys.

25 posted on 06/16/2013 7:51:15 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: presidio9

Must be a huge SEC office over there.


26 posted on 06/16/2013 7:54:34 PM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: presidio9
I am pretty messed but not as messed as a psychologist or a psychiatrist.

However, I will offer a non-professional psychological opinion on why Pakistanis like gay porn.

Homosexuality has a lot of narcissism in it. Muslim has a lot of misogyny in it.

When you hate women because you love yourself, that spells gay porn to me.

27 posted on 06/16/2013 8:16:26 PM PDT by metafugitive
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To: ElkGroveDan

As I’ve said before two normal guys just don’t sit on a couch like that - even if there is junk piled on the end.


You are 100% correct.


28 posted on 06/16/2013 8:22:45 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: elcid1970

It’s going to come to war yet.

What do you mean "yet"?

29 posted on 06/16/2013 10:37:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: arthurus
This is a bit of an oversimplification. In every society, since before the dawn of civilization, men have always had access to female prostitutes. At any age.

They don't call it "the oldest profession" for nothing.

30 posted on 06/16/2013 10:41:20 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Bm


31 posted on 06/16/2013 10:49:43 PM PDT by wyowolf
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To: presidio9

You’re right. Islam is at war with us “infidels” (and has been for fourteen centuries) but most of us would rather pretend that’s not so. That photo sends millions of the world’s muzzies into obscene ecstasies every September 11th.

I guess I mean “war” as when the day arrives in America that a muzzie feels fear the way a Jew in Pakistan would. When we “kaffirs” make the muzzies in our midst so uncomfortable that they go back to where they came from. When they look an “infidel” in the eye & see raw hatred glaring back at them.

The current regime is determined to prevent that, however.


32 posted on 06/17/2013 4:30:39 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: presidio9

A rhetorical thread?


33 posted on 06/17/2013 7:54:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: presidio9

OK so it took me four days to open this thread. No comment.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 10:14:44 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Cicero
I think the answer is that homosexuality involves a dominant male and a receptive one, and among the people who engage in this sort of thing, the dominant male has a certain respect, and the subordinate male is despised.

I see.

O-Bow-Ma photo the_bow.jpg

I see very clearly...

35 posted on 06/17/2013 7:33:13 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: presidio9

Revolted placemark.


36 posted on 06/17/2013 10:50:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cicero; presidio9

Homosexuals were not sent to the gas chambers at all. They were never targeted for extinction. Read “The Pink Swastika” for the facts about Naxis and homosexuality. Many of the homosexuals sent to camps were not homos at all, but were political oppoennts arrested under their law agsinst homosexuality, which was rarely enforced, since so man of the head and other Nazis, especially those under Ernst Roehm, were homosexual. In fact Germans used to call Hitler Jugend “Homo Jugend”.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 10:54:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, the Hitler Youth were very special. And there’s not much about the Nazi movement that didn’t have to be falsified by the Communists who defined them and wrote the history.


38 posted on 06/18/2013 7:48:00 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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