Skip to comments.Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’
Posted on 06/12/2013 2:27:40 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
"Earned legalization is not amnesty," Ryan said during a forum on immigration sponsored by the National Association of Manufacturers. "I will debate anybody who tries to suggest that these ideas that are moving through Congress are amnesty. They're not. Amnesty is wiping the slate clean and not paying any penalty for having done something wrong."
Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.
"That," Ryan said, "is not amnesty."
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I used to like Paul Ryan. That was back in the day before he went stark raving mad.
How can it not be amnesty when you don’t charge a person with the crime committed, and you let them stay?
I am ready to debate...bring it on Amnesty Liberal
The sound you hear when Ryan flaps his gums is the sound of House Republicans folding like a cheap tent.
How did they ‘earn’ it? They came over the border ILLEGALLY or overstayed their visas.
A few years ago, you politicians were calling it ‘regularization’.
No matter how you try to fancy up the terminology, it is still AMNESTY. It grants special privilege to those who broke the law, and in the situation of foreigners coming into the country without green card status, it is AMNESTY.
Why are the GOP committing suicide-by-amnesty?
Even McCain admits the newly legalized foreigners will not vote Republican.
My first question to be debated: Since the federal government under Bambi has decided NOT to prosecute illegals who enter or overstay their visa, plus they decided to selectively NOT enforce laws on the books that they don't like, particularly concerning current immigration laws, why would you trust these same people to enforce border security measures?
“Why are the GOP committing suicide-by-amnesty?”
Can’t help but wonder how many may have been PRISMed.
The term "earned legalization" is such a non-sensical farce one doesn't need to go any further. But he is right about one thing.
The immigration is not amnesty, it is numerous amnesties: amnesty for illegal entry, amnesty for document fraud (s), amnesty for illegal use of SS numbers, amnesty for lying on job applications, amnesty for lying in many cases where the true identity is hidden, amnesty for driving without a license, amnesty for failing to pay all taxes, and who knows how many other amnesties for other crimes.
“Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years. “
* They get to vote tomorrow.
* They don’t have to go back to their home nations.
Yeah, they are rewarded with citizenship because they broke the law.
hahahaha! Knew it! Levin wouldn’t miss that invite! hahahaha!
Also, please explain why the so-called "Sanctuary Cities" are tolerated and even encouraged by state and local governments, as their very existence would seem to be in direct violation of the Constitution, as well as a violation of your sworn oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.
Senator, why is it unreasonable to conclude that we are no longer a Constitutional Republic or that all of this is just for show, to keep the sleeping giant soundly sleeping?
Ryan is a coward, 1st class. He won’t go on Mark Levin’s radio show!
“I will debate anybody who tries to suggest that these ideas that are moving through Congress are amnesty.
i guess he refuses to debate Mark Levin,because according to Mark Ryan was invited on his program this evening and his spokes-idiot said he wouldn’t be coming on.
so what’s up with that?Ryan.
What has happened to us????
Mark Levin is unloading on Paul Ryan big time right now for this, ripping into him like I never heard Mark unload on a “Friend” like this before. Good job Mark, I hope Marco Rubio is next.
Ryan, do you realized they are already voting in huge numbers?? This bill will triple that vote - all for dems.
I know what you mean, we're playing polite "civility" while these people are engaged in an all out war.
I'd say we best wake up, but what the use.
Damn this is so frustrating.
End of debate.
Ryan turned out to be just another snake in the grass. Conservatives have no representation at the federal level whatsoever. Immigration is nothing more than a bargaining chip politicians use to bribe big agra, big chicken, and big hotel. We are shit to them, and the sooner we come to grips with that, the better.
They all have multiple identities. How many times do you think they sign up for benefits like food stamps, welfare?
I was going to post "no can do" but then I came back to 2013 reality.
Not even the guy, the clown who you should have handily kicked his ass.
Ever listen to Beck tell his stories of how they would indirectly threaten his wife?
it is always the same story--COWARDICE enables the communist revolution. Every time.
The immigration process begins in the home country of the would be immigrant not in the host country after having illegally crossed the border. To imply that “immigration” has anything to do with illegals is a code-word for Amnesty and to refuse to admit that is just OUTRIGHT dishonest.
Paul Ryan has either LOST the debate or he is a LIAR.
Tell him what you really think...
I’ve never trusted this guy or Rubio. Total fakes.
Oh, and BTW Paul and Marco - they BREAK the law now. What are you going to do when they break your new law?
Deport them? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You’ll probably just write a “new Immigration Reform Bill” that will “fix it this time for sure”. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
These guys egos are ruling their logic. A true sign of an idiot.
Illegals all have multiple identities. How many times do you think they sign up for benefits like food stamps, welfare?
Be glad to, Paul. Anytime. My place is best. Be sure to bring plenty of good beer and a crying towel, because I will easily rip your positions apart and point out your lies for all to see with little effort.
Oh, and I’ll arrange to have a live web feed so all can see an overweight, middle aged goofball wearing an aloha shirt and flip-flops make you look like the inside-the-Beltway, Statist puke you truly are.
Contact me via freepmail.
And you will lose.
Well, they tried Hewitt's made-up term "regularization" to replace "amnesty". That didn't fool anybody -- now this.
Anything that begins with entering the country illegally is not “earned.”
“A path to citizenship”
My grandfather who sailed here legally from Italy in 1910 came here with nothing, had to promise he would not be a burden to society and died withOUT American “citizenship”.
Citizenship is an option, not a requirement to immigrate to the USA
I doubt you can force an immigrant to pledge allegiance to the United States... heck even classrooms have been forced to stop that with American born children.
Path to citizenship? What a crock. It does not pass the smell test and it certainly will not win in a court of law in 2013. Rubio and Ryan know this too.
No sir, it is not amnesty. It is a Reward for Criminal behavior. Illegally entering the homeland of another is criminal behavior.
KY is chock full of illegals, esp. during soybean and tobacco harvest. That is the only reason to explain Paul's insane stance on this bill.
Ryan - dead to me
Rubio - dead to me
Jeb - dead to me
Graveyard of RINOS
“That,” Ryan said, “is not amnesty.”
Oh I don’t know break the law get rewarded by being able to stay here ahead of those that didn’t break the law seems like amnesty to me. I guess it depends on the meaning of the word “is” like Clinton
Obama is not going to do any of that. He will legalize them all, register them Democrat to vote and put them on welfare, before the next election.
There was an article today about how DHS was rushing through amnesty requests and did not have time to do background checks.
Ryan must have been born yesterday or he thinks we were.
We are getting to the point where every state is a border state. Here in VA we have turned purple and will be blue in a decade thanks to immigration. And NC is not far behind.
Ryan, the illegals will not be voting for the republicans
after you sign them into legal status.
Yeah, Mark Levin offered Ryan air time tonight, but Ryan was busy.
Busy being weak!
There is no leadership, just buffoon on top of buffoon!
You forgot: ayotte, brewer, christie, graham, king, mccain, rogers
coming soon to a turdworld state near you!
“Calif. bill would let non-citizens serve on juries”
What we're seeking is SOMEONE who WALKS the WALK.
Debate your mama Ryan.