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Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’
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Posted on 06/12/2013 2:27:40 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative

"Earned legalization is not amnesty," Ryan said during a forum on immigration sponsored by the National Association of Manufacturers. "I will debate anybody who tries to suggest that these ideas that are moving through Congress are amnesty. They're not. Amnesty is wiping the slate clean and not paying any penalty for having done something wrong."

Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

"That," Ryan said, "is not amnesty."

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 4sale; aliens; amnesty; amnesty4sale; deathtoamerica; immigration; paulryan; paulryanwho; rino
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To: Windy City Conservative

Amnesty means receiving the benefit but having to pay a DIFFERENT penalty than the law requires.

In other words, if the beneficiary is not required to pay the penalty prescribed by law, but is given a lesser penalty instead, that is amnesty.

This bill IS amnesty.

Ryan is WRONG.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 2:50:16 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Snickering Hound

LOL


42 posted on 06/12/2013 2:50:31 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Definition of amnesty (n)

Bing Dictionary

am·nes·ty

1.pardon: a general pardon, especially for those who have committed political crimes

2.prosecution-free period: a period during which crimes can be admitted or illegal weapons handed in without prosecution

3.pardon somebody: to grant an amnesty to somebody


43 posted on 06/12/2013 2:51:35 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The pieces of silver are flowing like a raging river in Washington nowadays...


44 posted on 06/12/2013 2:53:12 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Sit down, Paul. No one is interested in debating you on anything anymore.


45 posted on 06/12/2013 2:54:00 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Windy City Conservative
Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

Mister Obama, or his judges, will remove all of these bothersome issues, one suspects.

Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty, and amnesty.

Debate won.

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46 posted on 06/12/2013 2:55:00 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Let me get this straight ... we will get law breakers to obey the law by passing even more laws for them to obey ?

Is there a way to remove someone from office when it can be proven that they are insane ?

47 posted on 06/12/2013 2:55:41 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: kabar

“Giving them green cards entitles them to all the benefits of citizenship except voting.”

Heard that during jury selection this week for the Whitey Bulger trial, it was discovered that an illegal was in the pool of prospects (derived from the voter lists). Gotta wonder how many illegals are not only illegally voting but also illegally serving on juries.


48 posted on 06/12/2013 2:57:09 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Windy City Conservative
Real simple Paul. In the bill, is there a way where an illegal can end up a citizen, with rights, benefits and a vote? "Well yes but..." No buts about it Paul, no debate - that's amnesty.

Do not reward illegals with anything! Ever! Send their law breaking backsides back home where they belong, and charge them for the bus ticket!

49 posted on 06/12/2013 2:57:46 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LVR, I agree with you about Biden;s demeanor, but Ryan played MidWest polite, when he should have thrown it back at Biden and called him out on being a putz and for for flinging false facts.

It was not out of the realm of possibilities that Biden would act this way—it is his MO from way back.


50 posted on 06/12/2013 2:59:20 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I used to like Paul Ryan. That was back in the day before he went stark raving mad.


51 posted on 06/12/2013 2:59:37 PM PDT by Gritty (Our Government is erecting a panopticon state that sees everything, regulates everything-Mark Steyn)
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To: Windy City Conservative

How can it not be amnesty when you don’t charge a person with the crime committed, and you let them stay?


52 posted on 06/12/2013 3:02:23 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I am ready to debate...bring it on Amnesty Liberal


53 posted on 06/12/2013 3:02:50 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: Windy City Conservative

The sound you hear when Ryan flaps his gums is the sound of House Republicans folding like a cheap tent.


54 posted on 06/12/2013 3:02:53 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Earned?

How did they ‘earn’ it? They came over the border ILLEGALLY or overstayed their visas.

Earned legalization?

A few years ago, you politicians were calling it ‘regularization’.

No matter how you try to fancy up the terminology, it is still AMNESTY. It grants special privilege to those who broke the law, and in the situation of foreigners coming into the country without green card status, it is AMNESTY.


55 posted on 06/12/2013 3:04:56 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Why are the GOP committing suicide-by-amnesty?

Even McCain admits the newly legalized foreigners will not vote Republican.


56 posted on 06/12/2013 3:07:09 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
I'll be glad to debate Paul.

My first question to be debated: Since the federal government under Bambi has decided NOT to prosecute illegals who enter or overstay their visa, plus they decided to selectively NOT enforce laws on the books that they don't like, particularly concerning current immigration laws, why would you trust these same people to enforce border security measures?

57 posted on 06/12/2013 3:08:14 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: TomGuy

“Why are the GOP committing suicide-by-amnesty?”

Can’t help but wonder how many may have been PRISMed.


58 posted on 06/12/2013 3:13:20 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Irenic
I think I hear Ryan’s phone ringing, I think it’s Mark Levin...

Levin just said he did call Ryan's office, but was told Ryan 'is unavailable.'

[The little weasel is hiding.]
59 posted on 06/12/2013 3:14:16 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: BlatherNaut
Can’t help but wonder how many may have been PRISMed.

Perhaps recorded when on the phone with their off-shore bankers.


60 posted on 06/12/2013 3:16:15 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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