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FBI, NSA said to be secretly mining data from nine U.S. tech giants
ZD Net ^ | June 6, 2013 | Rachel King

Posted on 06/07/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian

Summary: UPDATED: Turns out U.S. government agencies might be tapping into into a lot more than just Verizon customer records.

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Both the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are said to have been secretly mining data directly from the servers of at least nine top U.S.-based technology companies, according to The Washington Post.

Citing a leaked presentation intended for only senior analysts within the NSA's Signals Intelligence Directorate, which was then obtained by the Post, this was all done since 2007 under a highly-classified program dubbed "PRISM."

As for the companies involved, it's a who's who list filled with Silicon Valley behemoths that is surely going to upset lawmakers and average Internet users alike.

The ring of nine consists of Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple, and video chat room community PalTalk. Apparently Dropbox was slated to be the next one added to the list.

The kind of content being extracted from the central servers at theses tech companies include audio, video, photos, e-mails, documents and connection logs.

(Excerpt) Read more at zdnet.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: government; internet; nationalsecurity; openborders; prism; surveillance; threatmatrix

1 posted on 06/07/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: Leo Carpathian

Well Maxine Waters was telling the truth in an interview when she said Obama was creating a file on EVERYONE . Rush Limbaugh talked about it on his program .


2 posted on 06/07/2013 8:06:58 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Leo Carpathian

Government is the enemy of the people.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 8:07:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Leo Carpathian; xzins

Suddenly John Roberts’ Opinion on Obamacare makes sense.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 8:08:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Where are all of the liberal professors wringing their hands about the loss of our rights?


5 posted on 06/07/2013 8:12:35 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Related Britons ARE being spied on by surveillance agencies


6 posted on 06/07/2013 8:13:35 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: oldbrowser

They think they are safe.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 8:14:42 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Leo Carpathian

8 posted on 06/07/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Leo Carpathian

I think obamas gov. has bitten off more than it can chew this time. Any republican that went along with this like Graham needs to be removed from office. It is no longer “we the people” in their eyes, it is “we the government”.

Time to clean house.


9 posted on 06/07/2013 8:16:26 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: mardi59
Any republican that went along with this like Graham needs to be removed from office. It is no longer “we the people” in their eyes, it is “we the government”.

Why don't we start by removing any democrat first and then work our way to the republicans?

10 posted on 06/07/2013 8:23:09 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Not to make excuses for this outrage but they can’t find a teenaged Chechnyan terrorist with both hands.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 8:25:48 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Does anyone notice something wrong here?

1. When they were given the info of REAL terrorists
they did NOTHING, and allowed the Boston ATROCITY
to occur.

2. These are also the people who left the borders open,
and DEFENDED Hasan, RELEASED the COLE terrorists,
FAST&Furiously armed narcoterrorists,
fought every State defending itself,
decimated the US military,
and ordered IRS to attack conservatives,
all while covering up the Benghazi
MANPAD transfer to al Qaeda.

3. The Moslem Brotherhood has DIRECT access
to these records recording Americans who have done nothing.


12 posted on 06/07/2013 8:28:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: TigersEye

Can’t find?

Or don’t want to? — yet.

Don’t waste a (opportunity for a) crisis.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 8:30:55 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: oldbrowser

RINOs are democrats. Graham and McCain have shown disloyalty ti their constituents. Why wait to get rid of them. They will just corrupt anyone else we sent to the senate or congress.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 8:34:15 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

People are forgetting that this government has identified Tea Partiers, gun control advocates and other conservatives as “terrorists”. When we read that the phone spying efforts were aimed at rooting out terrorists and their networks, I do not think that the government thinks that “terrorist” means what we think it means. I think that they wanted to monitor US calling patterns to identify conservatives and their allies.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 8:35:51 AM PDT by Piranha (We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

And after collecting all this private information illegally, and at great expense, they weren’t able to prevent the mad piece of $h!t from murdering people during the Boston Marathon.

Or didn’t try to prevent it.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 8:36:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Does anyone notice something wrong here?

[continuing]

4. The Tyrant is Undocumented, protected by the MSM which pays no taxes and is protected,
while he has not even shown he is ELIGIBLE to destroy America.

The PEOPLE are very angry (and this was a year before this new nightmare)


17 posted on 06/07/2013 8:36:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Leo Carpathian

A short history of Echelon, the grandparent of Prism:
http://echelononline.free.fr/documents/dc/inside_echelon.htm

The world’s most secret electronic surveillance system has its main origin in the conflicts of the Second World War. In a deeper sense, it results from the invention of radio and the fundamental nature of telecommunications. The creation of radio permitted governments and other communicators to pass messages to receivers over transcontinental distances. But there was a penalty - anyone else could listen in. Previously, written messages were physically secure (unless the courier carrying them was ambushed, or a spy compromised communications). The invention of radio thus created a new importance for cryptography, the art and science of making secret codes. It also led to the business of signals intelligence, now an industrial scale activity.

Although the largest surveillance network is run by the US NSA, it is far from alone. Russia, China, France and other nations operate worldwide networks. Dozens of advanced nations use sigint as a key source of intelligence. Even smaller European nations such as Denmark, the Netherlands or Switzerland have recently constructed small, Echelon-like stations to obtain and process intelligence by eavesdropping on civil satellite communications.

During the 20th century, governments realised the importance of effective secret codes. But they were often far from successful. During the Second World War, huge allied codebreaking establishments in Britain and America analysed and read hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese signals. What they did and how they did it remained a cloely-guarded secret for decades afterwards. In the intervening period, the US and British sigint agencies, NSA and Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) constructed their worldwide listening network.

The system was established under a secret 1947 “UKUSA Agreement,” which brought together the British and American systems, personnel and stations. To this was soon joined the networks of three British commonwealth countries, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Later, other countries including Norway, Denmark, Germany and Turkey signed secret sigint agreements with the United States and became “third parties” participants in the UKUSA network.

Besides integrating their stations, each country appoints senior officials to work as liaison staff at the others’ headquarters. The United States operates a Special US Liaison Office (SUSLO) in London and Cheltenham, while a SUKLO official from GCHQ has his own suite of offices inside NSA headquarters at Fort Meade, between Washington and Baltimore.

Under the UKUSA agreement, the five main English-speaking countries took responsibility for overseeing surveillance in different parts of the globe . Britain’s zone included Africa and Europe, east to the Ural Mountains of the former USSR; Canada covered northern latitudes and polar regions; Australia covered Oceania. The agreement prescribed common procedures, targets, equipment and methods that the sigint agencies would use.

Among them were international regulations for sigint security , which required that before anyone was admitted to knowledge of the arrangements for obtaining and handling sigint, they must first undertake a lifelong commitment to secrecy.

Every individual joining a UKUSA sigint organisation must be “indoctrinated” and, often “re-indoctrinated” each time they are admitted to knowledge of a specific project. They are told only what they “need to know”, and that the need for total secrecy about their work “never ceases”.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 8:39:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: Leo Carpathian

In other words, they’ve found my library of “Obama’s white mother posing naked for Frank Marshall Davis dirty magazines” photos.

And they’re less than pleased.


19 posted on 06/07/2013 8:40:02 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Until proof of complicity comes forward I'll just call them incompetent. The only other explanation. I do think the FedMob LEAs are overwhelmed with information overload though. When you gather yottabytes of data even the most sophisticated collating software isn't going to yield much of any use.
20 posted on 06/07/2013 8:40:05 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

This new server is so brisk, it makes mocking Omoslem even more of a joy.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 8:40:51 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Nothing of a surprise here to me. What did the voters expect from this communists black Muslim King Obama and his communists corrupt criminal empire. Add the support of the communists Democrats and their simple corrupt minds and you got the destruction of America. I'm really pissed.
22 posted on 06/07/2013 8:49:11 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: P-Marlowe

I really believe that Roberts got blackmailed by Obama over something with his chilren. And he wanted to protect his children.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 8:50:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oldbrowser
Why don't we start by removing any democrat first and then work our way to the republicans?

Go take a look at the people who voted to expand the Patriot Act....both sides need a full cleaning.

24 posted on 06/07/2013 8:51:36 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Diogenesis

BTTT!


25 posted on 06/07/2013 8:52:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Diogenesis

 

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

~Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.

When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.

Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!

~Vexen Crabtree


26 posted on 06/07/2013 8:54:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

He adopted because he’s gay.


27 posted on 06/07/2013 8:57:09 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: oldbrowser

Voters in SC get their chance to remove Graham in the primary next year before the general election.

If he isn’t removed in the primary conservatives should not vote for Graham in the general election.


28 posted on 06/07/2013 9:20:38 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Leo Carpathian

29 posted on 06/07/2013 10:07:18 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Salvation

I do too.

Occam’s Razor.


30 posted on 06/07/2013 10:09:35 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Piranha
When we read that the phone spying efforts were aimed at rooting out terrorists and their networks, I do not think that the government thinks that “terrorist” means what we think it means.

Hell, they aren't even allowed to use "jihad" as a search term!

31 posted on 06/07/2013 9:19:42 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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