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Scientists struggling to explain slowdown in climate change
Ewurwea ^ | 16 April 2013 | Alister Doyle

Posted on 05/28/2013 4:50:46 PM PDT by Lorianne

Scientists are struggling to explain a slowdown in climate change that has exposed gaps in their understanding and defies a rise in global greenhouse gas emissions.

Often focused on century-long trends, most climate models failed to predict that the temperature rise would slow, starting around 2000. Scientists are now intent on figuring out the causes and determining whether the respite will be brief or a more lasting phenomenon.

"The climate system is not quite so simple as people thought," said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish statistician and author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" who estimates that moderate warming will be beneficial for crop growth and human health.

Some experts say their trust in climate science has declined because of the many uncertainties. The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had to correct a 2007 report that exaggerated the pace of melt of the Himalayan glaciers and wrongly said they could all vanish by 2035.

"My own confidence in the data has gone down in the past five years," said Richard Tol, an expert in climate change and professor of economics at the University of Sussex in England.

Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius first showed in the 1890s how man-made carbon dioxide, from coal for instance, traps heat in the atmosphere. Many of the exact effects are still unknown.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming
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To: Lorianne

As long as there is grant money to be had, they will continue to struggle to understand.


41 posted on 05/28/2013 6:42:06 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: katana
It's hard to admit one is wrong, especially when a professional career, reputation, and large sums of money are involved.

Well enough of the scam is out that a professional career in global warming is pretty much out, the reputations are shot with the faked research data leaks, so I am suspecting they are holding out for some of that "large sums of money".

I would think that with the economy so bad and the deficit so large, we could help schools out by firing these useless eaters that proved the opposite of the truth last go round.

42 posted on 05/28/2013 6:45:41 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mr. K
Which ones did? I would take another look at those...

Blasphemy! If the facts do not support the assertion, then the facts are clearly wrong.

43 posted on 05/28/2013 6:46:31 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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>> Scientists are struggling to explain

>> Scientists are now intent

Charlatans.


44 posted on 05/28/2013 6:54:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Lorianne

dumb luck.. on our part.. :-}


45 posted on 05/28/2013 6:56:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Junk model = junk predictions. A model can be modeled to predict anything.

Grab a ‘futurist’ book or magazine from a decade or more ago and enjoy the laughs. A monkey with a dart board would be more accurate.

Where’s my flying car?


46 posted on 05/28/2013 7:02:53 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lorianne
"The climate system is not quite so simple as people thought," said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish statistician and author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist"

Correction: not quite so simple as idiots thought. The rest of us normal thinkers aren't so simple minded. Nature is complex, what with bacteria and other life-forms releasing gases into the environment that makes anything we humans do, look puny in comparison. And those life-forms have done it for millions of years. Not to mention, volcanic eruptions, natural radioactive gas emissions from the earth, forest fires, chemical salts in the oceans, solar ion disturbances in the atmosphere, and other natural processes.

Seems there are a lot of things they haven't fully accounted for, in their blind drive to implicate human behavior as causing a theoretical condition that has yet to be confirmed for more than a tiny sliver of time.

47 posted on 05/28/2013 7:29:39 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

Global Warming - Climate Changing. The mystery of Spring, Summer, Autumn Winter. The poets and the psalmists on psaltry and harp banding together to save the planet from itself and people from their own inventions.

It would have been nice if it were true. But alas they will leave in their wake a disaffected congregation. A hollow sound that will move on to other worldly things and possible phases of planet salvation incorporating the mysteries of other future events from within and without.

Huh?


48 posted on 05/28/2013 7:50:25 PM PDT by shineon
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To: Lorianne

Two words: Piltdown Man


49 posted on 05/28/2013 8:28:16 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: Lorianne

http://theolympiareport.com/wwu-scientist-debunks-lawmakers-myths-about-co2-climate-change/


50 posted on 05/28/2013 10:09:34 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Lorianne

Manmade C02 constitutes 4-5% of total C02 in the atmosphere.

More significant for climate changes are ocean temperature cycles (caused by warm surface steams, being replaced by colder water rising to the top and vice versa) and by frequency of sunspots.

Combine those facts with politically motivated fraudulent and falsified data, used to “prove” manmade global warming, prediction models that have not been verified, and the whole scam is debunked by honest science.


51 posted on 05/28/2013 10:22:24 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: upchuck

Meteorology NOT meterology


52 posted on 05/29/2013 4:16:20 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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53 posted on 05/29/2013 12:56:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: voveo
CO2 shows up AFTER it warms and not before as proven by the Vostok ice core samples. Those samples also show that it is a natural cycle that happens every 120K years or so. We humans have nothing to do with it

Partly true. The earth warms due to higher solar angle and melting of some of the glacial cover. That warms the oceans enough to release some CO2. Then the CO2 traps more warmth and continues the increase.

Natural warming from the end of the Little Ice Age was about 1C or so. That warming would have caused a 5-10ppm rise in CO2. Instead we had about a 110 ppm rise. The oceans have turned into net sinks rather than sources.

54 posted on 05/29/2013 1:18:42 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: truth_seeker
Manmade C02 constitutes 4-5% of total C02 in the atmosphere.

True because the annual natural flux is so large it keeps cycling out most manmade CO2 into the ocean and biosphere. When that CO2 returns it is no longer manmade.

More significant for climate changes are ocean temperature cycles (caused by warm surface steams, being replaced by colder water rising to the top and vice versa) and by frequency of sunspots.

Also true. The oceans are "cool" right now due to a variety of factors such as the circumpolar current in the SH and the closure of the isthmus of Panama. The drop into the Little Ice Age and recovery through the end of the 20th century had a large solar input.

...prediction models that have not been verified, and the whole scam is debunked by honest science.

The models are indeed bunk. The basic science of manmade CO2 is sound, the question is how much extra warming there will be due to positive feedback. There might not be any positive feedback, but negative. More likely the climate is determined by weather patterns controlled fundamentally by solar activity levels. CO2 is just window dressing on top of that.

55 posted on 05/29/2013 1:29:57 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Lorianne
Scientists struggling to explain slowdown in climate change

The Won SAID if he got elected, sea levels would start to fall. What's the confusion?

56 posted on 05/29/2013 9:08:15 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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