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Top IRS official will invoke Fifth Amendment
LA TIMES ^ | May 21, 2013 | By Richard Simon and Joseph Tanfani

Posted on 05/21/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by 11th Commandment

Edited on 05/21/2013 12:48:43 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

DOCUMENT: The Inspector General’s report on the IRS

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, R-Calif. The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: irs; loislerner; loislernerirsscandal; official; pleadfifthirsscandal; pleadthefifth; teaparty
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
HILLARY CLINTON: Try to Remember
101 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:19 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: william clark

No, they sit her down and make her take the 5th in front of the entire nation.


102 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:31 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: epluribus_2


We're gonna need lots more popcorn...
103 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:32 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 11th Commandment

Hey IRS, I take the fifth on my next tax return.


104 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:33 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: All

I’ll make government open and transparent.


105 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:38 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: 3Fingas

NO way...NO immunity.


106 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: MrB

That’s Sarah Ingram


107 posted on 05/21/2013 1:04:58 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Reagan Conservative)
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To: ironman

You’re right. I need to look back at the timeline, since both of them have been in charge of the tax exempt organizations component.


108 posted on 05/21/2013 1:05:08 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: 11th Commandment
But ... but ... but. The Carney Barker said this is just like the Birth Certificate inquiries?
109 posted on 05/21/2013 1:05:20 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: 11th Commandment
Republicans - here's your 2014 campaign basis.

Lerner: "I refuse to answer your question on the grounds it may incriminate me ..."

Over and over again - ads, videos, mention by every Republican on every program ...

But I fear the republicans are pussies - afraid they will be accused of "overreaching."

110 posted on 05/21/2013 1:05:26 PM PDT by eCSMaster ("God bless Planned Parenthood"- B.H.Obama, 2013)
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To: BAW

One of Congressional Dems favorite moves when in power is to grant immunity to witnesses to get at a bigger fish. That essentially destroys any chance of criminal prosecution. (didn’t Fawn Hall get immunity?)

If Issa can convince Boehner to turn up the heat on demanding a special counsel, they can work a deal with this gal to find out who up the chain concocted the planted question strategy.

Is this what the WH aides are panicked over? It’s like checkmate in chess - when the realization hits that there’s no way out.

Keep an eye on Ft. Marcy Park or space alien abductions.


111 posted on 05/21/2013 1:06:04 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: 11th Commandment
Grand jury time! There is no 5th in a Grand Jury.

Go with grand jury and a special prosecutor.

112 posted on 05/21/2013 1:06:12 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: forgotten man

What did Valerie Jarrett know and when did she know it?

Valerie Jarrett knows nothing ,it all originates from Valerie Jarrett


113 posted on 05/21/2013 1:06:37 PM PDT by molson209
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To: eCSMaster

republicans ARE wussies - which is why we have to elect conservatives and Tea Partiers.

Make people choose sides in the ads.

The IRS loser taking the 5th? Or the patriotic hard working tax payer?

It really should be a no-brainer.......right?


114 posted on 05/21/2013 1:07:15 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: 11th Commandment

Put the bit$& under oath in front of a committee and make her recite the
Fifth over and over. Period! If she has not committed any crime why would she
take the Fifth? We all know the answer.


115 posted on 05/21/2013 1:08:03 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: onyx

I don’t like the idea of immunity either, but if she can catch a bigger fish, it might be worth it.


116 posted on 05/21/2013 1:08:44 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 11th Commandment

I - I
R - Remember
S - Squat


117 posted on 05/21/2013 1:08:55 PM PDT by moovova
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To: 11th Commandment

Well. I’d say that’s a tacit admission of guilt, and a sure indicator of a cover-up that goes all the way to the top.

This will only intensify the digging. Get out the backhoes!!


118 posted on 05/21/2013 1:09:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Don Corleone
At the end of Obama’s administration his “Pardon List” will be the size of the Riyadh Manhattan Phone Book.
119 posted on 05/21/2013 1:09:46 PM PDT by llevrok (2013: - Obama vs America. The new cold war)
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To: Nervous Tick

Agree! Put her under oath. Let the questions begin and the camera’s roll.
Record every fifth she takes!


120 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:11 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: lawdave

How about telling them to tell the truth?

Maybe they can cross thier fingers and say any old thing
.


121 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:32 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: maggief; onyx

Who is paying the bill of this expensive top notch /democrat hack lawyer?

Hmmmmm.....thanks for the info. Trying to catch up now. Lots going on today!!


122 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: molson209

“What did Valerie Jarrett know and when did she know it?”

Issa should subpoena that bat-faced, Iranian biotch just to make her dodge/refuse it for the record! Citizens should be screaming for her head. She is behind all of this garbage!


123 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:41 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Compel testimony with limited, defined immunity contingent upon complete and truthful testimony. Otherwise, lock her up for contempt and for being contemptible.


124 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:45 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: 11th Commandment
Picture of Mafioso, I mean Obama Administration official Lois Lerner:


125 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:48 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Sparky1776

Yep! Ask her a dozen extremely simple and pertinent questions, and have her declare her 5th Amendment Rights to avoid prison.

“Ms. Lerner, did you coordinate and execute a political attack by the IRS on 0bama Administration opponents at the direction of the 0bama Administration and the Treasury Union?”


126 posted on 05/21/2013 1:10:54 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Bingo!!


127 posted on 05/21/2013 1:11:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Yet she is the one who publicly disclosed the targeting and issued an apology. This morning in the senate hearing, Steven Miller the “former” acting chief of the IRS, took responsibility for her speech, saying it was his idea to disclose the targeting in this manner, thus attempting to make her only a mouthpiece to what he indicated was a bad idea. Miller was “forced” to resign, although his tenure was over with this job in June anyway. She takes the fifth..they are now in the process of stopping the buck with them.


128 posted on 05/21/2013 1:11:44 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

She won’t risk her life.


129 posted on 05/21/2013 1:11:49 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: US Navy Vet

Best post I’ve seen today.
Thank you sir.


130 posted on 05/21/2013 1:11:56 PM PDT by sopwith (best post)
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To: Steely Tom
if invoking the fifth leads to presumption of guilt then we have no fifth amendment right.

"That said. This department was her responsibility. Whether she testifies or not, the evidence pointing in her direction is substantial and we should be able to get a conviction without her testimony."

We should not offer her immunity. However, if she was following orders from the WH, we can certainly take that into consideration.

131 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Truth29

She will get a promotion and a bonus. And the GOP will do NOTHING!


132 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:11 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: llevrok

EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS TO BE PUT UNDER OATH for these scandals.
EVERY ONE.

Issa said something today about most being put under oath.

Not acceptable

ALL PUT UNDER OATH AND NOTHING LESS


133 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:19 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: onyx

I wouldn’t rule out immunity so quickly. Remember, if the only option is an investigation (as opposed to voluntary testimony), then the Obmachine has all sorts of ways to throw sand into that machinery, beginning with Holder putting his DOJ into it to shut down anything else.


134 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:19 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: US Navy Vet

Waterboard her commie dyke rear end until she spills the beans about THE FOREIGNER giving the orders.


135 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:35 PM PDT by spawn44 ( moo)
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To: 11th Commandment

The entire hierarchy of the IRS should be fired on principle that they either knew or ought to have known about this assault on liberty. I am also angered that some in the IRS get paid BONUSES. That practice should be immediately ended. Certainly the IRS should be removed from having any role in Obamacare.


136 posted on 05/21/2013 1:13:59 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Beagle8U
There is no 5th in a Grand Jury

Grand Jury Witnesses and the Fifth Amendment

137 posted on 05/21/2013 1:15:55 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: penelopesire; maggief

He sounds like a loyal demonic-rat.
Maybe a pro-bono thing?


138 posted on 05/21/2013 1:15:55 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: BAW

Any Gov employee who takes the fifth must resign or be fired.


139 posted on 05/21/2013 1:16:24 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: US Navy Vet

“Lock the Bitch in a room w/ me, I will BEAT the TRUTH out of her!”

You can’t have all the fun. Is there a sign-up sheet?


140 posted on 05/21/2013 1:16:44 PM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: 1Old Pro
At least she’s being honest, rather than saying she doesn’t recall. She’s tacitly admiting [sic] guilt.

Pleading the 5th is not a tacit admittance of guilt just like using your 2nd amendment rights isn't a tacit admittance of being a troublemaker.

141 posted on 05/21/2013 1:16:55 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: 3Fingas

Way too early to talk immunity.


142 posted on 05/21/2013 1:17:03 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 11th Commandment

oh so nowwwwww they’re cool with the constitution


143 posted on 05/21/2013 1:17:21 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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To: Nervous Tick
Drag her in front of the panel, and the cameras, *anyway*.

Exactly...Question her for several hours, get her on the record.

144 posted on 05/21/2013 1:18:33 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Don Corleone
his “Pardon List” will be the size of be the Manhattan Washington, DC SMSA Phone Book.

:-)

145 posted on 05/21/2013 1:18:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: william clark

Way too early to talk immunity to a person deeply involved who ‘s already invoking her Fifth Amendment rights.


146 posted on 05/21/2013 1:18:54 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Alrighty, invoking the guilty amendment.


147 posted on 05/21/2013 1:19:07 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: 11th Commandment

Yes, she has no choice but to take this course... because she’d be incriminating herself if she told the truth.


148 posted on 05/21/2013 1:19:07 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: 11th Commandment

John Dean invoked the Fifth Amendment 67 times and it didn’t help him.


149 posted on 05/21/2013 1:20:00 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Usagi_yo

>> Pleading the 5th is not a tacit admittance of guilt

OF COURSE it isn’t! *I* know that.

wink wink. nudge nudge.


150 posted on 05/21/2013 1:20:33 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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