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Where Did the Benghazi Video Excuse Come From?
Vanity | May 17, 2013 | Sampleman

Posted on 05/17/2013 11:12:28 AM PDT by SampleMan

The question keeps being asked, "Where did the claim come from that the Youtube video was responsible for the attack in Benghazi?"

The total lack of references to the video in the raw intelligence reports and even the CYA email chain indicates that it was a late construction in the story.

But why would it be put out and why so prominently? I truly believe the answer is self-evident. Benghazi is a three part scandal: 1. Incompetent handling of security warnings and concerns prior to the attack. Warnings were ignored and no response plan was in place. 2. Criminal negligence in the response during the attack. Not only was no action taken, but no action was even contemplated. They waited 7 hrs for help, but had they survived 12, 18, or even 24 hours, no help would have arrived, because the entire process had been shut down as a “no go” quite early on. They were simply left to die. 3. Cover-up of #1 and #2.

Obama/Clinton needed something to explain their massive failings concerning #1. They needed an unexpected, unpredictable catalyst for the attack. Something that would divert attention from the truth. In the world of Muslim Rage, there is always some trivial event that is the latest outrage, and given nonsensical and violent responses to cartoons, most anything is believable.

Before the bodies were even cold, the story tellers went to work, “We need something to pin a sudden unpredictable attack on, what are those crazy SOBs mad at now? ”. Someone in the room knew about the video and floated it. As a canard it was almost perfect, no one had heard about it, and who wouldn’t believe Muslims would kill over it. After it was seized on, it was hard sold, over sold, by the administration, something that Freepers picked up on immediately. As the video was unknown, Obama felt he had to explain it in simple terms to the press (projecting his own intelligence) and then direct them to the proper narrative, “Crazy Muslims gone wild about video.” He made the mistake of over selling it. Hillary was even hard selling the families at Dover on it. Very heavy handed.

The video was the deflection for all of the standard “why” questions, and 95% of the media ran with it, no questions asked. But now that part 3 of the scandal is being investigated, the video is being revealed as a magical creation that came out of nowhere, with no trail, not even a reference in the intelligence.

The vacuum created by the video’s origin is now the gateway back to part 1 of the scandal. Why were the clear warnings of a predicted attack ignored?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: benghazi; vanity
We need to get more pry bars into this story.
1 posted on 05/17/2013 11:12:28 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan

I think they just decided to surf youtube.....


2 posted on 05/17/2013 11:14:08 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SampleMan
Good question. I never heard of it before that date. Did anyone?
3 posted on 05/17/2013 11:16:38 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime it's the cover-up someone once said.)
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To: GraceG

I think they just decided to surf youtube.....

I think that’s all they do at the White House


4 posted on 05/17/2013 11:16:56 AM PDT by molson209
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To: McGruff

They got it from a cleric in Egypt who mentioned it a Friday prayers.


5 posted on 05/17/2013 11:17:52 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: McGruff

There is a vid floating around where I guy has tied ‘the video’ back to a sub-constractor to the State Dept. It’s pretty interesting. I can’t post it b’cause I’m on a BBerry.


6 posted on 05/17/2013 11:19:25 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: SampleMan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3020336/posts

BENGHAZI DOT ONE, WHY THE VIDEO AND WHY AP


7 posted on 05/17/2013 11:19:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: molson209

I think you’re right.


8 posted on 05/17/2013 11:21:43 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SampleMan

Huma Mahmood Abedin


9 posted on 05/17/2013 11:21:56 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: SampleMan

There really was (supposedly) a protest in Egypt and they just decided to make it seem like a ‘movement’ of some sorts.


10 posted on 05/17/2013 11:22:14 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Perdogg
They got it from a cleric in Egypt who mentioned it a Friday prayers.

Are we sure about that? The cleric in Egypt was part of the original story put out, a small segway to explain how the video surfaced.

I believe nothing at face value concerning this story, as they have shown to be liars from the start. Why is this bit any more believable? Its not mentioned in the CIA reports.

11 posted on 05/17/2013 11:24:19 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: McGruff
An excerpt of the video was dubbed in Arabic and shown on Egyptian TV on September 9 by Sheikh Khalad Abdalla, who has a big bump on his forehead.

No question, it helped to gin up protest demonstrations in a variety of wog locales. However, Benghazi was not among them, as any moron reading the New York Times or the Boston Globe would have known a day or two later. Benghazi was a military assault, not a protest demonstration gone out of control.

We have, for example, the testimony of Ethan Chorin, who was in Benghazi with Dr. Thomas Burke of Mass General, Boston. They were there to assist Libyan doctors in setting up an Emergency Room operation at the Benghazi Medical Center. They and the Libyan doctors were slated to meet with Ambassador Stevens Wednesday morning, the 12th.

On the evening of the 11th, Chorin was on the phone with the Ambassador's security detail arranging the meeting, when the call ended abruptly with a shout of "We've got a problem here". Then Chorin and Burke were left to hole up in their hotel listening to sounds of the distant violence. And the Libyan doctors ended up treating the Ambassador unsucessfully at the BMC for severe asphyxia.

IOW, no demonstration, no build-up. Just a sudden surprise attack by Al Qaeda. Which we now know would not have been a surprise, but for the incompetence of the Obama / Clinton State Department.

12 posted on 05/17/2013 11:25:09 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SampleMan
Stephen F. Hayes at The Weekly Standard has been simply terrific in all of his Benghazi reporting. Here's "What About The Video?"

Very compelling chronology of the events and analysis on the who, why and when the video excuse came from.

13 posted on 05/17/2013 11:29:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SampleMan

We’re supposed to be talking about the IRS scandal and forget the Benghazi tragedy. I’m going to join the Tea Party if the media lets Benghazi drop.


14 posted on 05/17/2013 11:29:39 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: SampleMan
Hillary was the first to use the "Youtube video" excuse.

10:38-39 p.m., 9/11/12. @StateDept tweets: " #SecClinton: I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today. http://state.gov #Libya" and "#SecClinton: We have confirmed one @StateDept officer was killed in #Libya. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss." Hillary Clinton issues a statement, saying, "I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today. As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack." She adds: "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

That was when Hillary herself took over the Cairo embassy Twitter account and personally posted. (anyone who thinks she wasn't directing the earlier Tweets is smoking something) That was at 10:38 PM Eastern Time. That would have been 4:38 AM Sept. 13th in Benghazi. About the time Woods and Doherty were making their last stand.

The first known non-specific reference to "the video" was made in apologies tweeted by the Cairo embassy in the early morning of Sept. 11th before any crowd had assembled there.

15 posted on 05/17/2013 11:31:09 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan
If only a minority of people in the Arab world knew about the video a majority knew about it after the Administration seized on it as the cause of all anti-American sentiment in the Middle East. Obama told the world at the UN, and he and Hillary produced a TV commercial for Pakistanis apologizing for the video. Obama’s disinformation campaign didn't fool anybody and was embarrassing on an international scale.

Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif: “The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous. We firmly believe that this was a pre-calculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate.”

16 posted on 05/17/2013 11:32:52 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: SampleMan

Not to seem dismissive of those murdered at Benghazi, I find the assault against the 1st Amendment to be an incredibly egregious crime against the Country, its citizens, the Constitution.

US officials advanced to the World the opinion that speech in the form of art/video is responsible for the terrorism inflicted against the US, US Citizens, US interests. In this Benghazi case, these same officials held that speech was the catalyst for murder.


17 posted on 05/17/2013 11:33:33 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: molson209

“I think they just decided to surf youtube.....

I think that’s all they do at the White House”

No that’s not correct! They use the Presidency as their personal travel agent! No expense spared. Mychal Massie has it right, it’s called “living Nixxer Rich.”


18 posted on 05/17/2013 11:33:34 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SampleMan
The false narrative was quickly spread by the media. Watch the deception at work here, this published immediately on Sept. 11, 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUFuX_9dwA

Notice they call Nakoula, 'Sam Basile' (sounds like a CIA play on the word "Imbecile"), and that they call him an "Israeli American" when in actuality he is a Coptic Christian American?

19 posted on 05/17/2013 11:34:34 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: autumnraine
There really was (supposedly) a protest in Egypt and they just decided to make it seem like a ‘movement’ of some sorts.

That was the 0bama-MSM propaganda line.

The protests and attack in Cairo weren't about that stupid 'video.'

Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots
Interviews on the streets of Cairo. 'Video' had nothing to do with protests and attack.

"Blame it on the Video" was a Fraud for the Cairo Rioting, Too

20 posted on 05/17/2013 11:37:33 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan
1. Incompetent handling of security warnings and concerns prior to the attack.
My armchair sleuthing doesn't lead me to agree with this point.
This administration is expressly involved in the building of a
Muslim Brotherhood caliphate, which includes removing Assad
in Syria. The gun-running out of Benghazi through Turkey needed
cover & silence to operate effectively. They needed a place
for Stevens to periodically oversee the transactions, but one
sufficiently invisible to the media.

2.Criminal negligence in the response during the attack.
Again, because these were covert operations, exposing this through
a calamitous event involving our military was to be avoided. Among
the weapons on the ground there were surface-to-air rockets capable
of taking down our aircraft sent to rescue/fight. The administration
simply could not afford this exposure. Indeed, avoid any fighting
on our side whatsoever and think of a reason later was the impromptu plan.

3. Cover-up of #1 and #2.
Interesting thing about the concoction they went with - the video - is its history.
Back when all this happened, there was a website which unfortunately I now forgot,
where a fellow traces the lineage of this video, how it went through several names,
and what URL or IPS (I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff) put it up on youtube,
tracing it in Arlington, VA I believe. I think it possible that they found this
video and kept it in the ready for just such an occasion, which is the modus operandi of the Left.
21 posted on 05/17/2013 11:39:11 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: SampleMan

Well thought out, simple and to-the-point synopsis of the Benghazi cover-up. There’s been a lot of talk floated about gun running, prisoner exchanges to make Obama look heroic, etc. I’m of the opinion the whole scenario is much simpler, basically what you’re claiming, SampleMan. This administration was asleep at the switch, got caught with their pants down, and then, because of the impending election, they had to cover up their mistakes.

So where do we go from here? Just keep connecting the dots and watch where the line leads. I think we all know where.


22 posted on 05/17/2013 11:42:27 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: GraceG

Go back earlier in the day when the embassy in Cairo Egypt was attacked. The walls were breached and our flag was torn down. Embassy personnel sent out tweets apologizing for ‘the video’ at some point either before or during the attack. This whole thing about ‘The Video’ was staged long before.


23 posted on 05/17/2013 11:44:52 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: SampleMan; Perdogg
Only the final version of "the video" was forwarded, by persons unknown, to Sheikh Khalid Abdullah the cleric in Cairo who aired it on TV. Nakoula, the maker of the original film, was not the one who uploaded the final version, Innocence of Muslims, to the internet.

To: Cincinatus' Wife
It had actually been online since July, but nobody had paid attention to its crude libels against the Prophet Mohammed until Mr Abdullah's show broadcast clips from it last weekend, calling for the film-makers to be executed.

That clearly is not an explanation for these warnings then.

Egypt intelligence warns (on Sept 4th) of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Congress was warned about Libya last month

6 posted on Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:27:02 AM by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))

Egyptian intelligence warns of attacks on the U.S. and Israeli embassies a month before Sheik Khalid Abdullah aired his little seen outtakes of Innocence of Muslims.

24 posted on 05/17/2013 11:47:01 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye
The first known non-specific reference to "the video" was made in apologies tweeted by the Cairo embassy in the early morning of Sept. 11th before any crowd had assembled there.

That is significant, since I have posted previously a recording from a guy who was guarding Coptic churches in Cairo at that time. He told a radio host in Tucson that the US Embassy in Cairo (and the WH) KNEW an attack was planned for 9/11 as early as August 25th.

25 posted on 05/17/2013 11:51:36 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Contrary to popular belief, Ben Gauzy is not some guy who was just voted off DWTS.)
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To: SampleMan

The complete absence of the video in the released e-mails indicates:

We don’t have the really important e-mails.


26 posted on 05/17/2013 11:52:24 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: jobim
You can hear some interesting things about the timeline of all these iterations of "the movie" in the Youtube video linked below. Start at 9:30 and watch to 16:00 for the meat of that.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

The analysis you are referring to. Montagraph has several videos about it.

27 posted on 05/17/2013 11:54:03 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

And who would have fed Hillery the story about the video?

Her assistant, Huma Mahmood Abedin who has connections to the Muslim Brotherhood that would have likely been aware of the video. Also blaming Bengazzi on the video would have been politically beneficial to the MB.


28 posted on 05/17/2013 11:55:23 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: lacrew
We don’t have the really important e-mails.

Concur, and the lack of reference to the video in the one's we do have proves it.

29 posted on 05/17/2013 11:57:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Exactly. See post #24. Egyptian intelligence warned on Sept. 4th that the Cairo embassy would be attacked. It was no surprise and was not spontaneous.


30 posted on 05/17/2013 11:58:41 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Okieshooter
Huma Abedin or John O Brennan?
31 posted on 05/17/2013 12:00:49 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

“Huma Abedin or John O Brennan?”

Another MB plant in our government. Civilization jihad is alive and well in the highest reaches of our government.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 12:04:50 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: SampleMan

IMO, the video of the was always going to be part of the cover story...when or if things went south with the “kidnapping operation”. It was a CIA contrived and produced part of the caper.


33 posted on 05/17/2013 12:06:33 PM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: SampleMan

That’s what angers me the most about this whole thing....they wanted by attacking the video, to attack our rights to Free Speech.


34 posted on 05/17/2013 12:08:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SampleMan

I’ll have to go with Valerie Jarrett on this one.


35 posted on 05/17/2013 12:12:42 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Artie
It began as a set up reason to explain the protest-turned-attack on the Cairo embassy. Which they knew as early as August was going to happen. There were two or three main reasons for that protest and none of them were "the video." One was to demand the release of the Blind Sheik. Another reason was anger that an Al-Qaeda leader had recently been snuffed by a drone thus the "0bama we are all Osama" signs they carried. There were also a number of protestors who wore Guy Fawkes masks, something associated with American and European anarchist-socialists (like the OWS freaks) not Muslims.

For some reason 0bama and Hillary wanted the press to blame something other than the real reasons for the protest.

36 posted on 05/17/2013 12:21:03 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan

I also want to know where the video maker is. Does anyone know?


37 posted on 05/17/2013 12:22:10 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: vpintheak

In prison in LA. Not one reporter has been curious enough to ask for an interview with him.


38 posted on 05/17/2013 12:24:01 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan

And did the videographer ever get out of jail?


39 posted on 05/17/2013 12:26:07 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SampleMan

To my recollection, the “video” only had a few hundred hits when I found it, which was well after it was used as the excuse.


40 posted on 05/17/2013 12:28:36 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: vpintheak
I also want to know where the video maker is

A question that reporters need to ask Jay Carnage.

41 posted on 05/17/2013 12:30:54 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: vpintheak

Actually, in all this time, no talk shows, statements, from outraged attorneys? How about a shocked, saddened family member? After all, this one man was blamed by the US government for causing the death of an American ambassador and three others. He sparked riots all over the Middle East...not a peep...it’s almost as if he doesn’t exist.


42 posted on 05/17/2013 12:41:06 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

The survivors don’t exist either. 37 people who just teleported to another universe.


43 posted on 05/17/2013 12:52:33 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan; Mygirlsmom; TigersEye; Okieshooter; Artie; dfwgator
Montagraph1
Montagraph2

A few notes from Montagraph findings:

*newspoliticsnow is the website that carried the video
* the video went throught the following name changes: Desert Warriors, Real Life of Bin Laden, Real Life of Mohammed, Innocence of Muslims
* Stanley, Inc. of Arlington, VA was the originator of the uploading on 9/11/12, and then removed by the next day
* Stanley, Inc. largest customers: largest customers: army, navy, marines, Dept of State, DHS
* 2 Stanley employees fired for illegally accessing Obama's passport info 3/08
44 posted on 05/17/2013 1:06:26 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: jobim
There were four versions of Nakoula's movie.

Only the final one was forwarded, by persons unknown, to Sheikh Khalid Abdullah the cleric in Cairo who aired it on TV. Nakoula, the maker of the original film, was not the one who uploaded the final version, Innocence of Muslims, to the internet.

You can hear some interesting things about the timeline of all these iterations of "the movie" in the Youtube video linked below. Start at 9:30 and watch to 16:00 for the meat of that.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

45 posted on 05/17/2013 1:08:15 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SampleMan
You have nailed down a key question.
46 posted on 05/17/2013 1:13:08 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: TigersEye

Hmm... still in the pocket of the admin.


47 posted on 05/17/2013 2:02:28 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: molson209
I think that’s all they do at the White House

Not enough porn for them on youtube.

48 posted on 05/17/2013 2:05:23 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Java4Jay

Java4Jay~:” Go back earlier in the day when the embassy in Cairo Egypt was attacked. The walls were breached and our flag was torn down. Embassy personnel sent out tweets apologizing for ‘the video’ at some point either before or during the attack. This whole thing about ‘The Video’ was staged long before.”

True that !
As I recall , the State dept. told the American embassey in Egypt to retract and stop the apology for the video.
The American embassey in Egypt replied that they had already issued the apology through the Egyptian media.
Then the Benghazi terrorist attack happened.
Then the State Dept. stated that they had almost ‘real time’ observation of the situation ( while we Freepers saw it for ourselves)
Then later, the State Dept. played out the video excuse
Then the State Dept. spend $70,000 on an apology commercial by Hillary and Obama addressed to Pakistan muslims
Then the Video apology was played to everyone , including the US population.

So yes , it was an already prepared situation (prior to the Benghazi attack)
Why ? .. and when prepared ?
.. and prepared in advance by whom ?


49 posted on 05/17/2013 4:22:39 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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