Experts: CO2 record illustrates 'scary' trend

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[LouAvul]

AP article. Whenever I post anything from the AP, it disappears. But the article is lamenting the incredible rise in carbon dioxide. Thoughts?

[FlingWingFlyer]

One of America’s biggest problems is that we have way too many “experts” living here.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

That just means that crops will be much more productive.

[DoughtyOne]

I wish these chicken littles would just jump off a cliff and get it over with.

[IMR 4350]

Now I know why I have to mow the lawn so often.

[Psiman]

too many idiot scientists who don’t know a hand grenade from a hole in the ground.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Maybe they can show me one planet in this entire universe that became a greenhouse planet because of CO2. Venus? Water vapor. The CO2 came later when it was trapped by water vapor. CO2 constitutes 0.04% of the earths atmosphere. Methane 0.00017% Zero point zero zero zero. What they are selling is a phantom. If we ran every single car and every single coal burning plant 24 hours a day 7 days a week for the next 1000 years we wouldn’t even get that CO2 percentage up to 0.05%, the atmosphere is just too massive. It’s 5,000 trillion metric tons which might as well be infinity when it comes to man made CO2 and I’m getting sick to death of liberals howling when that percentage scoots up a microbe. What are they going to do when it goes down? Demand taxes be reduced for gasoline? Yeah right.

[laplata]

too many idiot scientists who don’t know a hand grenade from a hole in the ground.

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No, there are too many idiots who believe the idiot scientists.

There really aren’t that many idiot scientists but there are a lot of idiots.

[Seaplaner]

As a scientist, I can tell you that this is not "scientific" info.

Out of thousands upon thousands of climate readings around the globe, one high one would be regarded as an artifact, or an outlier. Such points are not typically reportable, as a single datum.

Furthermore, such a thing is ridiculously easy to fudge. All they need is a smokey barbecue in the parking lot, and if the wind is right...

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[rlmorel]

What are your thoughts on this, LouAvul?

[CottShop]

mmm yes, a .03% contribution to the total CO2 in atmosphere is ‘scary’

Real experts know global wasmring is a natural cyclical event which follwos very specific natural patterns- Hack scientists hell bent on perpetuating a lie parrot their hack guru al gore

[Dogbert41]

Quit breathing on the sensor you big dope!

[jyro]

all lies and distorted data, watch this
http://theolympiareport.com/wwu-scientist-debunks-lawmakers-myths-about-co2-climate-change/

[Bernard Marx]

Arguing facts with people who have no science background -- especially in historical geology -- or worse, people who distort science in favor of making political points, is hopeless.

I quote from a piece written by geophysicist David Deming for the Washington Times Weekly:

"Confronted by an endless avalance of...nonsensical drivel, it seems almost foolhardy to argue facts...With each passing year (no increase in mean global temperature for 15 years) it is becoming increasingly clear that global warming is not a scientific theory subject to empirical falsification, but a political ideology that has to be defended against any challenge. It is ironic that skeptics are called 'deniers' when every fact that would tend to falsify global warming is immediately explained away by an industry of denial."

[palmer]

Lots of people arguing on various forums that the CO2 measurements are erroneous (pointing to Mauna Loa volcano contamination) or that there are natural causes for the rise. Both notions are almost certainly wrong. The steady rise in CO2 has been measured many times in many places far away from volcanoes and right next to volcanoes and they match pretty well once the local variations are averaged out. The natural rise in CO2 would have been 5-10 ppm based on the natural rise in ocean temps (roughy 1C) following the Little Ice Age. Instead we have seen a 100-120 ppm rise that coincides with fossil fuel use.

It is possible that the CO2 is coming from natural sources, but those natural sources (e.g volcanoes) would have to be outputting at a steady rate just like manmade CO2 is. The simplest explanation by far is man made.

[Jack Hydrazine]

[catnipman]

WOW! This is an amazing article! It desperately wanted to say that the “record” CO2 is making things warmer. But it couldn’t. Know why? Because the Earth is NOT getting warmer! Hasn’t for 16 years. I guess they didn’t want to mention that little factoid in the same article that was pimping an “all time high” CO2 number. People might get the wrong impression. Instead they totally dance around the issue by repeatedly emphasizing it was supposedly hotter a long time ago, oh yeah, and CO2 was high then too. Oh, and CO2 is high now. And did we mention CO2 is high right NOW? We’ll leave it to the reader to guess what that means.

As it is, I guess these fools must simply be hoping people have been so brainwashed and are so unable to actually think for themselves any longer that they’ll mentally fill in the deliberate blanks with “OH, current higher CO2= Global Warming”.

[Irenic]

I think Soro’s, Gore, Hollywood dinks and all the greenie weenies should QUICKLY run out and buy up all the carbon credits they can. Spend every last dime and save us all!

[rlmorel]

The real question is if warming is caused by these levels of CO2.

Proponents of AGW maintain that there is a linear relationship at these concentrations between increasing levels of CO2 and the trapping of heat.

In their model, the analogy is a pane of glass you paint with whitewash. When one paints the window, some light is blocked. Add another layer more light is blocked, until after so many layers, no light gets through.

That is a flawed premise at these concentrations. Not only does science not support their premise, the empirical data does not either.

If the data supported their hypothesis, they would not have to manipulate their data to the point of falsification, which they have done and continue to do,

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I tell you what really ticks me off are the people making massive amounts of money from this hoax while hard working people get ripped off. Case in point: Al Gore who is now worth $300 million. 3 HUNDRED million! This is a guy whose last weekly paying job was 12 years ago where he made about $220k a year before taxes, and here he is loaded enough to buy and sell TV stations to terrorist propaganda companies. Maybe Al-Jazeera can do a bit on Al when he took bribes from airlines rather than have those airlines beef up security pre-911, and nobody ever calls him on this sh*t, even when he sexually assaulted a masseuse he still walked scot free not to mention walking around drunk half the time.