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Abducted Cleveland girl was chained to the wall 'like some kind of trophy'
Daily Mail ^ | 5/8/2013 | Rachel Quigley

Posted on 05/08/2013 10:06:04 AM PDT by FeliciaCat

At least one of the girls held captive in a Cleveland house for a decade was chained to the wall 'like some kind of trophy', it was revealed today, after police confirmed that ropes and chains were found in the hall of the house.

Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight are believed to have been kept in multiple rooms of the house at 2207 Seymour Avenue where chains, tape and other bondage devices were found. Cleveland's police chief says the three women were often restrained and allowed out into the back yard occasionally.

Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath said in an interview on NBC's Today show that the physical condition of the three women rescued on Monday was 'very good considering the circumstances"

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: amandaberry; ginadejesus; micheleknight
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To: Boogieman

Even if they don’t pay federal income tax? You agree with that?


41 posted on 05/08/2013 11:46:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Many United States citizens do not pay federal taxes either. Look, we can see you have a bitch about these guys being from Puerto Rico, but I doubt it was/is the reason they are evil. Yes they are evil and evil seems to know no boundaries. I live in Milwaukee and Jeff Dahmer was evil as well. So were the 9/11 hijackers. So was Andrei Chikatilo. All evil and all deserving of their fates before God.


42 posted on 05/08/2013 12:06:19 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard
Many United States citizens do not pay federal taxes either. .

Yes, so VERY patently, painfully true. The KEY difference being THEY (real citizens) were required to at least file some sort of federal personal income tax return, as AMERICAN citizens would be expected to do.

Somehow, this historical minimally explanatory/augmenting crappola of reasons why Puerto Ricans don't pay Federal Personal Income Tax and how they pay "many federal taxes" is some kind of valid substitute. It is NOT.

My "Bitch" is that we treat many people very, very differently. Depending on party of power, the "differently" varies greatly. The Democrats want Puerto Ricans to vote, and they want to vote, but not enough to want to pay Federal Personal Income tax - just vote.

This is a big diversion from the post. But words mean things. And equating some of those within the realm of benefits of being citizens doesn't equate to the same responsibilities. Take that as you will.

43 posted on 05/08/2013 12:20:13 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: FeliciaCat

I say the men should be tortured to death, and soon.


44 posted on 05/08/2013 12:47:39 PM PDT by pallis
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To: The Great RJ

One bright spot - this is in Ohio and we still have the death penalty. However, lethal injection is too mild of a death as far as I’m concerned.


45 posted on 05/08/2013 1:02:22 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: NRA1995

We need the ‘internet cell’, where we can connect and activate various non-lethal ‘devices’ in the cell , such as Slim Whitman songs, water spray, heat or cold, aromas, etc.


46 posted on 05/08/2013 1:08:38 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Gaffer

I know you can say not in your mind, but they are American citizens. And they recently voted to become a state, in a convoluted fashion. Now it is up to the US Congress.


47 posted on 05/08/2013 1:17:08 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

NO, actually, the ‘decision’ is left up to a vote in Congress AND a vote of legal persons in Puerto Rico as to whether they want statehood.

These last few decades’ sticking points with these elections has been by the ‘residents’ has been in their desire to NOT PAY PERSONAL FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.

Dudes, you (PRs) and sympathizers can’t have it both ways.


48 posted on 05/08/2013 1:20:48 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

The legal persons of PR have voted to become a state. It was a somewhat convoluted vote.


49 posted on 05/08/2013 1:28:02 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Gaffer

I don’t disagree with you that we treat people differently. Like paying lower minimum wages to people in our territories. Like having them pay into the federal tax system (SS, etc), but not providing the same benefits back out to them based on their living in a territory. Make them a state and make the rules the same, or let them go and have their own system.

But, whether you like the process or not, legally, they are US citizens.


50 posted on 05/08/2013 1:44:46 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Apparently Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t work well when you are beating them and killing their babies.

This case is going to be studied from so many different angles.


51 posted on 05/08/2013 1:48:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gaffer

Huh? My opinion on that has nothing to do with whether they are citizens or not.


52 posted on 05/08/2013 2:40:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gaffer

Gut shot first, then the groin shot, a minute or two later, the brain shot


Better an ax to the knees in the middle of the hog’s pen.


53 posted on 05/08/2013 5:27:19 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS. (It's the Law))
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To: fredhead

The Apache Indians had numerous ways to enact slow painful death on their captives.


Enemies merit special treatment among Lakota. Perhaps
excise and nail/tie the rectum to an overhead fixture and build a fire to give them comfort in their final moments.


54 posted on 05/08/2013 5:38:10 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS. (It's the Law))
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To: NRA1995

‘This is what we do to kidnappers in Cleveland.’

This goes so far beyond kidnapping that it is hard to begin to accurately document just what this was.

One thing is for sure. There is no punishment or undesired outcome that is beneath these animals. They should be limited to one appeal just before the hatch door is opened beneath their feet.

‘Appeal rejected.’


55 posted on 05/08/2013 5:44:41 PM PDT by Delta Dawn
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To: Gaffer
"Yea....I’m supposed to actually feel good about three Puerto Ricans being citizens by a fluke of politicism and territorialism....yippee!.... "

I know how you feel....

I feel the same way about Californians.....

56 posted on 05/08/2013 7:48:51 PM PDT by nevergore
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