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John Maynard Keynes had it all wrong because he was gay and childless says Harvard professor
dailymail.co.uk ^ | May 4, 2013

Posted on 05/04/2013 7:07:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

A Harvard professor took to the podium at a finance conference Friday and called major influencer of modern economics John Maynard Keynes wrong about his philosophies because he was gay and childless.

During a question and answer session in Carlsbad, California, well-known historian Niall Ferguson was asked how he felt about the theories of English economist John Maynard Keynes versus those of Edmund Burke.

What the prominent Obama critic said in response hushed the crowd of over 500.

According to Tom Kostigen, editor-at-large of Financial Advisor magazine, Ferguson made it clear that he believed Keynes was uninterested in the what was good for society, basically because of his sexual orientation.

‘Ferguson asked the audience how many children Keynes had,’ wrote Kostigen in Financial Advisor. ‘He explained that Keynes had none because he was a homosexual and was married to a ballerina, with whom he likely talked of "poetry" rather than procreated.’

Kostigen said many of the audience members took offense at the remark, but that Ferguson continued.

‘Ferguson, author of The Great Degeneration: How Institutions Decay and Economies Die,' wrote Kostigen, ‘says it's only logical that Keynes would take this selfish worldview because he was an "effete" member of society.’

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To: Vermont Lt
While not a fan of JMK, I feel obligated to point out to the folks in government that they should have finished his book. Yes, his policy calls for the government to stimulate the economy by issuing debt to get the velocity of money moving.

However, that part they forgot to read was when revenues started coming in, you are supposed to pay down the debt so that you had the ability to be stimulative again, when the cycle changed.

Seems like part I is fun. Part II is not. So our government just blew it off.

That's very true. I too will not defend JMK, but most people get him wrong on that score. His deficit spending in recession proposition assumed also that in years of economic boom... Surpluses would be "banked" for the next recession. Something modern Keynesians have utterly ignored.

41 posted on 05/04/2013 8:12:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s a fairly safe bet that someone who doesn’t have kids couldn’t care less what their country will look like after they’re dead. It simply means nothing.

And that’s goes a VERY LONG WAY in explaining the suicidal policies of Europe and the US when it comes to immigration. Basically the people making the decisions (generally) don’t have kids (for whatever reason) and thus they spend money like there’s no tomorrow - because for them, there really isn’t, once they’re gone.

Having kids should almost be a requirement for high political office.


42 posted on 05/04/2013 8:13:27 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said. The homosexual is profoundly pessimistic because he has nothing invested in the future. Do they ever start foundations? I wonder.


43 posted on 05/04/2013 8:15:58 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: donna

That and they flatly refuse to believe that the abortion supporting, gay marriage backing gun control and immigration freak next door or in their family is really ‘a bad person’.

They are.


44 posted on 05/04/2013 8:16:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: neverdem; Nachum; narses; MHGinTN; SunkenCiv; BobL; xsmommy; secret garden; tioga; SoothingDave

There is something to be said for a “royal family” attitude: “ If my country does poorly, my family is held responsible, perhaps even killed or imprisoned by rebellion. If my family does well for my country and its future, my country will honor my children.”


45 posted on 05/04/2013 8:21:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SisterK

Don’t put words in my mouth. I said the single heterosexual people I know don’t care At All about the debt & deficit or the impact of both on future generations. That is a true statement. If you object, your issue is with these people, not with me.


46 posted on 05/04/2013 8:22:39 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Ramius

We’re all still waiting for the economic boom from Obama’s “stimulus.” What, did Obama not spend enough?


47 posted on 05/04/2013 8:23:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ferguson is way too smart to draw such simplistic conclusions. That’s why he apologized-—he embarrased himself/ He is probably increasingly frustrated by the fact that this cipher Obama is still President and all his policies seem to refer back to Keynes in some way in the quest for some philosophical cache. You can’t blame him.
He’s got a point, but there is no real causality, even though I myself have noticed the extreme predictability of people with no children and their worldview. There’s a dimension missing, definitely.


48 posted on 05/04/2013 8:32:14 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: JRandomFreeper
People with children have a greater stake in the future than people who live for the moment and don't procreate. I know that I moved heaven and earth for my kids, and still do for my grandkids. That requires rational analysis of the real world.

Agree 100% Having children changed my whole worldview. I was just telling my neighbor a shark story that happened a few years ago. I was at the beach with my kids and a group of friends and their kids. One of the moms in our group jumped up and ran toward the shore. I followed and saw a huge black shape moving slowly along the shore line about 25 ft out and stopping in front of the kids. The kids were about 35 feet out bobbing up and down in a group. We could not make out what the shape was so I whistled to the kids to stay put so they would not swim toward it. In that moment I prepared myself that if it was a shark I was going in. I am scared to death of sharks but there was no way my child or any other child would be the bait. By that time all the mothers were at the shore line and I think we would have had to fight over who was going to fight the shark LOL!! Turns out it was a huge manatee cruising down the shore but it illustrates what parents would do for their kids.

49 posted on 05/04/2013 8:38:09 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Cicero

A homosexual plays no part in CREATING the next generation, so like I said in a post on this thread, their worldview should be expected to be, uhhhh, “incomplete” at best.
That is just the way it is, and that’s why it’s more surprising to find homosexuals among Conservatives than among the “apres moi le deluge” Liberal types.


50 posted on 05/04/2013 8:38:40 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Republicans in power are just as opportunistic and selective in the way that they invoke debt and deficit as the current administration. It has everything to do with power and reelection and almost nothing to do with political, never mind sexual, orientation or other lifestyle preferences.


51 posted on 05/04/2013 8:42:32 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: happyhomemaker
I hear you. That instinct is strong.

Although, I am male, and I might have yelled out to the kids that they were close enough to the same that one of them was a spare (mine were 14 months apart). But I'm just that way.

I tend to have "Goes where angels fear to tread" syndrome. I've waded into more dogfights and serious problems than any completely rational person would.

I blame that on having kids. And being human.

It has made me run a tighter OODA loop.

/johnny

52 posted on 05/04/2013 8:46:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

A greater stake does not help rational behavior, although it can at times hurt it.

I am not promoting homosexuality but until someone can point out a relationship between IQ and sexuality, this is irrelevant to making superior economic theory.

Keynes may have been wrong but not because of his sexuality. The other guy sounds a little bit off, even if his economics are sound.


53 posted on 05/04/2013 8:48:25 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Tailgunner Joe
John Maynard Keynes had it all wrong because he was gay and childless says Harvard professor

What in the world? LOL.

54 posted on 05/04/2013 9:01:29 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Kostigen said many of the audience members took offense at the remark...and there are many of us out here who take offense at those who would try to kill the truth by taking "offense" at Niall's theory.....
55 posted on 05/04/2013 9:11:22 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: supremedoctrine

Forget the next generation...it is more like a few years until the next wave of economic misery hits when the only demographic likely to escape our world of pain will be the very wealthy. That gays are somehow more invulnerable to losing everything they have as opposed to heterosexual singles and single parents is too absurd for comment.


56 posted on 05/04/2013 9:17:33 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: RobbyS
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57 posted on 05/04/2013 9:18:41 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: gaijin

Whenever I see lips and a jaw like that (check out former Governor McGreevy), I really get the creeps...


58 posted on 05/04/2013 9:21:15 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A professor who dares challenge the political correctness thought police, especially when it comes to the turd poker culture, better watch his back at a toilet like Harvard. I think this guy is in for a real sh**storm.


59 posted on 05/04/2013 9:24:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tailgunner Joe
B T T T ! ! ! ©

60 posted on 05/04/2013 9:26:39 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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