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Memo to the South: Go Ahead, Secede Already!
The Daily Beast ^ | April 30, 2013 | Lee Siegel

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s face it—on nearly every important issue, from gun control to immigration to gay marriage, red states are holding America back. Lee Siegel on why the South should get the hell out of the union.

Let’s not be fooled by all the bipartisan rhetoric that has been streaming out of the GOP since Romney’s self-destruction. Hundreds of thousands of petitioners in a handful of red states still want to secede? Well, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

A solid block of Southern states continues to refuse to expand Medicaid, thus squashing one of the linchpins of the president’s health-care reform. The South will likely be the last and most stubborn battleground in the fight for gay marriage. Gun control? The more the two sides seem to get cozier with each other, the faster gun-control legislation gets watered down—and more and more red states are passing laws making it legal to carry a concealed weapon. As for immigration, the red states seem to be relaxing their anti-immigrant fervor, but nothing approaching new legislation is even on the horizon.

The sad truth is that “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” can only be achieved at this point if the nation is split in half. Far from being fanciful or fanatical, the proponents of secession have a stronger grasp of political reality than just about anyone else. In fact, there are serious reasons why the North itself should take the lead in a secessionist movement.

Just think what America would look like without its mostly Southern states. (We could retain “America”: they could call themselves “Smith & Wesson” or “Coca-Cola” or something like that.) Universal health care. No guns. Strong unions. A humane minimum wage....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; catholics; cwii; democrats; dixie; guncontrol; mittromney; mormons; noachide; seccesion; secede; secondamendment
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To: freeandfreezing

The real truth is that actual liberals are a minority, if we somehow picked two states for all of them to go to there wouldn’t be enough to have a viable society.
It’s time we stopped putting up with this bovine excrement and say enough!


81 posted on 04/30/2013 8:14:21 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The South is overall 25-30% black

which begs a tiny question given they adore the Left


82 posted on 04/30/2013 8:18:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

case you ain’t noticed hoss

they are coming in here in droves...

Middle TN is becoming like NOVA or Piedmont

I go downtown Franklin and hear more northern accents than southern

no question

but...they are not all libs


83 posted on 04/30/2013 8:19:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I live less than 20 miles from Austin city limits and we are a very conservative area. Nothing wrong with the suburbs, but the downtown areas are nothing but liberal havens.

Look up Austin Smart Growth and see the effects of liberalism. Bike lanes instead of more roads for commuters, highrise apartments, light rail, taking parking spaces to use as sidewalk cafes, etc.


84 posted on 04/30/2013 8:20:34 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: manc

“...and take Chicago with them.”

Not so fast. I want two or three good kielbasa makers from Chicago down south. My retrograde eastern European genes demand it.


85 posted on 04/30/2013 8:23:39 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let’s face it—on nearly every important issue, from gun control to immigration to gay marriage, red states are holding America back from total stupidity

I love California but if the South... or even just Texas.. makes a break for it, I'm going to move.

86 posted on 04/30/2013 8:24:21 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is not Red States and Blue States. It is Red States and Blue Cities!!!!


87 posted on 04/30/2013 8:26:51 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would secede right along with them! And yes, a hell of a lot of states in the middle would go with. I love how the jerk-off who wrote this fantasizes about his liberal utopia. haha. I guess those who fought for Kim Il Sung in Korea probably had similar visions.
Without red states, America would collapse. What do places like Chicago export? Corpses?


88 posted on 04/30/2013 8:28:59 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting concept. A productive conservative United States of America sharing borders with an anti-military obamination of dependent citizens.

I wonder how long that would last?
89 posted on 04/30/2013 8:35:05 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: NTHockey

You said it all before I could.

Bravo Sir, Bravo.


90 posted on 04/30/2013 8:35:23 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: okie01

The child doesn’t understand that he’s already describing Europe, and much of America already. Talk about clueless.


91 posted on 04/30/2013 8:36:18 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: YankeeReb

Uh, in the South, the women do rule the roost, because they rule the Rooster.


92 posted on 04/30/2013 8:37:39 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to seceede, but this guy is nutz! in his insulting of redstate America. However yes, let them have their liberal fantasy (without) us, and then they can fail without conservatives having to suffer the results. Meanwhile we can have a free-market, God loving, constitution, life, liberty respecting republic. Viva la liberty!


93 posted on 04/30/2013 8:49:35 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes! And we get to keep all our gas and oil and food stuffs and great football players and beautiful women in the South.

The North will look like Detroit and Newark, freezing in the cold and dark dens of Socialism.


94 posted on 04/30/2013 8:51:30 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In September 2006, Siegel was suspended from The New Republic, after an internal investigation determined he was participating in misleading comments in the magazine’s “Talkback” section, in response to criticisms of his blog postings at The New Republic’s website.


95 posted on 04/30/2013 8:54:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“It would be a Leftist Utopia. Just like North Korea.”

More like East Germany, this idiot’s model state. They might have to build a wall too. There won’t be any taxpayers.


96 posted on 04/30/2013 8:56:30 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

97 posted on 04/30/2013 8:57:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Figment

Tht’s what I am wondering.


98 posted on 04/30/2013 8:58:57 PM PDT by matchgirl (An Ambassador is dead and Al Qaeda is alive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

sounds great!!

we’ll take the red counties... and you take the blue ones

and NONE of your people may pass into or through our areas. you will also not receive one thing from any of those areas


99 posted on 04/30/2013 9:04:48 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

if and when that happens’they wil round up all the illegals the leftist nuts letinvade their states, and ship them to the borders of the liberal states.


100 posted on 04/30/2013 9:23:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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