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Native Americans incensed over pro-gun rights billboard in Colorado (Great Billboard tho)
f/AP ^ | 4/30/2013

Posted on 04/30/2013 4:35:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Two billboards in which images of Native Americans are used to make a gun rights argument are causing a stir with some Colorado residents who say the image is offensive and insensitive.

The billboards in this northern Colorado city show three men dressed in traditional Native American attire and the words "Turn in your arms. The government will take care of you."

Matt Wells, an account executive with Lamar Advertising in Denver, said Monday that a group of local residents purchased the space.

"They have asked to remain anonymous," he said.

He also refused to disclose the cost but said the billboards are only appearing in the Greeley area. Wells said he has not received any complaints so far.

"I think it's a little bit extreme, of course, but I think people are really worried about their gun rights and what liberties are going to be taken away," Wells told the Greeley Tribune.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: americanindians; banglist; billboard; guncontrol; secondamendment; toughnuts; whiners
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To: KeyLargo

51 posted on 04/30/2013 5:32:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sherman Logan

The actual Seminoles get paid for it, and they have very good lawyers who periodically have to squish some lib at the NCAA who tries to “stand up” for them.

BTW, every Native American I know is very pro 2nd. This includes ones on the res and off.


52 posted on 04/30/2013 5:34:01 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MestaMachine

Not all of them...


53 posted on 04/30/2013 5:34:42 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: momtothree

“I am not any % Native.”

Well you and I are unique then. It seems that everybody is part indian these days.


54 posted on 04/30/2013 5:37:49 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Castigar

Do you need permission from every Native American or is permission from just one person ok?

That leads me to the question: do Native Americans have their own Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton to speak for them?


55 posted on 04/30/2013 5:38:54 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: RoosterRedux

These morons complaining up in Greeley just did the billboard sponsors a huge favor...taking this message national!!


56 posted on 04/30/2013 5:45:00 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Durus

“Where were you born?”

(Sadly) I am born and raised in Montgomery Co, Md. No Native reservations in our state. The closest I know of a Native is a family relative who is 50% Cherokee but born and raised in the suburbs and owned a business. What our area knows of Natives is learned (and wrongly so) from television or if they find a book about an individual tribe. It is just something not in our area... now, if you want to talk about MS 13... I got tons of info for you.


57 posted on 04/30/2013 5:47:19 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: RoosterRedux

The “native Americans” don’t get it. They’re now an officially certified victim group and they just feel that they have a right to be offended at anything the “White” people do.


58 posted on 04/30/2013 5:48:07 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Piranha

I’m 14% native American and I give my permission.


59 posted on 04/30/2013 6:00:03 AM PDT by native texan (I love Texas)
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To: momtothree
"That being said, I am wondering why Native Americans have issue with this billboard?"

Because the press always finds a Leftist "Indian" to tell them what they want to hear. Elizabeth Warren, for example.

60 posted on 04/30/2013 6:02:04 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: The Working Man

Indians and blacks has been usurped by the liberal feel good machine. Just drive through a reservation or black slum and see what the dims have done for them. Sadly, they want to blame everyone but the hand that dealt it to them.


61 posted on 04/30/2013 6:04:00 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: piytar

That I know very well.


62 posted on 04/30/2013 6:16:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Resolute Conservative

I agree with you, Interestingly enough, both groups tend to live in “Food Deserts” of one sort or another. Now imagine what “will” happen when, (not if), the EBT cards run out or the “Food Convoys” don’t arrive when they are needed. Both of these groups of dependent people are going to go searching for food. And being hungry they are going to take it if it is not surrendered to them.

In the Case of the Urban group they are going to leave a path of destruction behind them. The Indians are actually in a worse spot in a way. Most reservations, (Not ALL of them), are in lousy locations for the gathering of food. And on many the planting of fruit trees and crops has been discouraged for one reason or another. Some are for lack of “water rights” to keep them irrigated. Others are by “rules and regulations”. Or at least I was told so by some Indian friends I made in the Service decades ago now.

I’m not really sure what will happen to them in the long run. But leaving may be the only answer if it comes down to personal survival.


63 posted on 04/30/2013 6:22:00 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: RoosterRedux

Great billboard.


64 posted on 04/30/2013 6:23:53 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Multiculturalism is the answer!)
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To: momtothree
If you were born in America than you are a native American. From a constitutional perspective in determining citizenship your lineage is only important as far back as your parents. I guess how long someone's ancestors have been in America might be interesting but it does not determine how "native" someone is. There is no degree in the term, you either are or you aren't.

This is just a pet peeve of mine. No offense intended to you and yours.

65 posted on 04/30/2013 6:24:32 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Resolute Conservative

And liberals ignore the consequences of the policies they support like it was the Gosnell trial.


66 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Durus

How about “West Indian”?


67 posted on 04/30/2013 6:26:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: All

I am Ani-Yun-Wiya and remembering what Andrew Jackson did to my ancestors after they saved his butt at Horshoe Bend, I agree 100% with the billboard...


68 posted on 04/30/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Islander7

They look more like Kurds then Indians.


69 posted on 04/30/2013 6:29:18 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: DuncanWaring
They don't just want to shut you up - they want to enslave you or kill you.

One step at a time. First is shutting you up, which prevents rallying any resistance. Then, once you're nice and docile, they expand control. It's worked very well for them so far.

70 posted on 04/30/2013 6:30:50 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: The Working Man

Maybe after it is all said and done they will inherit the land back.


71 posted on 04/30/2013 6:30:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: momtothree; All
That being said, I am wondering why Native Americans have issue with this billboard?

Most would not. But it is a typical leftist tactic to take statements from members of a group that support a leftist cause, and imply that all members of the group agree with them. The MSM uses this very effectively, because when they contolled the information flow, they got to decide who was a legitimate representative, and who was not.

72 posted on 04/30/2013 6:31:10 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: All

I was attending a party given by some neighbors who were very wealthy...Several of the guests were British and New England “bluebloods”...Talk began about whose ancestors came here first and settled in what towns...Finally, someone asked me about MY ancestors...I quietened down the party when I replied, “My ancestors probably scalped your ancestors...” *ROFL*


73 posted on 04/30/2013 6:33:09 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: RoosterRedux

Great billboard, especially because the Marxists are boxed in.

Their only defense is “insensitivity.” Good luck with that.


74 posted on 04/30/2013 6:33:14 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: kevkrom

Accusations of racism and political correctness have been very effective weapons in expanding Marxism.

Just as an aside, “political correctness” was called “cultural Marxism” by its inventors.


75 posted on 04/30/2013 6:35:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: House Atreides
Something ain't right here? I live 2 miles from an Indian village here along the Yukon. You won't find a more pro active bunch that is quick to tell the feds to put it where the sun don't shine, and they stick together, not beg & grovel on the ground like the Whites do when told what to do by the Feds, no joke. We could learn a little from them Indians, they've realized the feds can't lock them all up and the feds leave them be rather than stir them up.

They luv their guns too, only problem is they never have much ammo as all their govt money goes for booze, not ammo. Good bunch just the same. They'd all agree with the billboard.

76 posted on 04/30/2013 6:40:22 AM PDT by Eska
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To: Durus

“... pet peeve... no offense intended”.

Not offended at all, love. Personally, I see all Americans as Americans first. Maybe that is my problem. Ethnic lineage is second and just an interesting footnote so to speak. For example, I know a lot of black kids that will nicely correct you if you use the term, “African American”. They simply say they are not African, no nothing of Africa and are simply Americans with darker skin coloring than mine. Did my heart good when that conversation went on!


77 posted on 04/30/2013 6:40:27 AM PDT by momtothree
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78 posted on 04/30/2013 6:40:38 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sherman Logan

The massacre at Wounded Knee started when the Army sought to forcibly disarm the Native Americans they had rounded up.


79 posted on 04/30/2013 6:44:16 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Not an unusual occurrence in wartime. I suspect the Army also disarmed captured German soldiers in WWII.

The Sioux were at war with the US, as can be seen by the acquittal for this reason of several Sioux warriors charged with murder for killings committed during this period.

There’s a lot to learn from what happened at Wounded Knee. It was not a shining example of US Army good behavior.

But it has very little applicability to today’s 2A issues.


80 posted on 04/30/2013 6:50:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Venturer

Probably just “feeling” cold.....

“Feeling” like “gay” has nothing to do with reality.


81 posted on 04/30/2013 6:50:48 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Gaffer

Here in Creek Nation territory (Muskogee, OK) the signage that been well received. We like our firearms/smokes/gambling here in Oklahoma.


82 posted on 04/30/2013 6:51:42 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: Sherman Logan

Well one thing to learn would be to not make a circular firing squad.


83 posted on 04/30/2013 6:54:16 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Venturer

Bingo!


84 posted on 04/30/2013 6:54:27 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Boonie
I was attending a party given by some neighbors who were very wealthy...Several of the guests were British and New England “bluebloods”...Talk began about whose ancestors came here first and settled in what towns...Finally, someone asked me about MY ancestors...I quietened down the party when I replied, “My ancestors probably scalped your ancestors...” *ROFL*

LOL -- That's amusing.

85 posted on 04/30/2013 6:55:06 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Imagine the hissy fit if Savage Arms Co. reintroduced this great series of ads, some featured the greats like Eddie Little Sky, Iron Eyes Cody, and Dan George:

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86 posted on 04/30/2013 6:59:59 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: allmendream

Quite true.

I always find it interesting that the few times the US Army arguably engaged in atrocities, such as Washita and Wounded Knee, are constantly being tossed out to show how immoral and illegimate the US is.

Meanwhile, atrocity was the normal method of Indian warfare, it’s what they did. So it could be posited that Army doing the same was just being culturally sensitive, imitating the culture of the natives.

At its very worst, the Army never captured Indians and dragged them off for long slow death by torture, which was of course standard practive for most tribes when they got the chance.


87 posted on 04/30/2013 7:08:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PowderMonkey

Iron Eyes was of course 100% Sicilian by ancestry.


88 posted on 04/30/2013 7:10:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Torturing the captured to death is never a good idea. Makes it hard to convince a defeated foe not to fight to the last man.


89 posted on 04/30/2013 7:14:27 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Sherman Logan

A Paiute Paisan?


90 posted on 04/30/2013 7:14:42 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: allmendream

Certainly doesn’t incentivize surrender.


91 posted on 04/30/2013 7:17:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Nope. Kind of makes fighting to the last breath of the last man an attractive alternative - even if hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded.

I remember in Iraq when they tortured to death a couple U.S. troops that had surrendered. I don’t recall many more instances of U.S. troops surrendering - no matter how precarious or hopeless their position.


92 posted on 04/30/2013 7:22:33 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: RoosterRedux

Why would native Americans find that offensive? It seems like a very pro-Indian message to me, i.e., “You guys got screwed by the government, hopefully the rest of us can avoid the same fate.”


93 posted on 04/30/2013 7:32:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: allmendream

Julius Caesar was renowned for pardoning those who fought against him, even taking them back into his confidence. It was cited at the time as one reason for his unbroken string of victories. Why fight to the death when you can just surrender and go on with your life?

Of course, JC eventually discovered the downside of mercy to his enemies ...


94 posted on 04/30/2013 7:43:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
In the HBO series Rome they really captured that ethic when the actor playing Julius Caesar explained to his captured foes his mercy...

“We were friends, we quarreled, and now we are friends again!”

95 posted on 04/30/2013 7:45:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: RoosterRedux

Notice how hard they had to reach to find “native Americans” to object to this? They had exactly *one*, who said she was a “native American”, which sounds like something Ward Churchill would say. The other person they asked was a non-Indian, probably a liberal, who had worked on a reservation.

Indians are very tribe-oriented. They are not bashful at all about their ancestry, as they are usually proud of it. As far as “native American” goes, that is like describing any of the hundreds of peoples in Asia as “Asians”. “Are you an Asian?” “I’m Japanese”.

And most of the warrior tribes, of which there are many, are very pro-gun, and very aware of the value of guns in their lives.

Many of the names the warrior tribes are known by are not their tribal names, but names given to them by other tribes, which tend to mean things like “invaders” and “conquerors”.

“Children of nature”, my butt.

The Cherokee at one point had a territory of about 140,000 square miles. The Sioux, the Navajo, the Apache, and many others didn’t just rapidly adapt to the gun, but even innovated improvements to it, such as center fired cartridges (though the idea was taken and patented by a white man.)

It should also be pointed out that as soon as war was declared in World War I and II, the tribes had lines outside of US military recruiting offices long before they were ready to enlist that many men.

One large tribe had independently declared war against Germany in World War I, and had not ended this declaration at the armistice, so were still technically at war with Germany when World War II was declared.


96 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:49 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: RoosterRedux
-Maureen Brucker

"...She thinks the billboards are making light of atrocities the federal government committed against Native Americans."

I think it is just the opposite. This person is making light of what the government is doing now and their intentions.

"I think people are really worried about their gun rights and what liberties are going to be taken away,"

Ya think?!!

97 posted on 04/30/2013 8:52:59 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Boonie

“..Talk began about whose ancestors came here first and settled in what towns...Finally, someone asked me about MY ancestors...I quietened down the party when I replied, “My ancestors probably scalped your ancestors...” *ROFL*”
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Love it!! The come back of all come backs.


98 posted on 04/30/2013 9:58:27 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: RoosterRedux

Disarmament made Sand Creek and Wounded Knee possible.


99 posted on 04/30/2013 10:21:36 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: RoosterRedux

Great White Father speak with forked tongue. Ugh!


100 posted on 04/30/2013 10:23:35 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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