Skip to comments.Informant: Islamic Compounds in America are Training for Jihad
Posted on 04/28/2013 4:53:04 AM PDT by Perseverando
In Hancock, NY an Islamic community that sits on 80 acres of land has decided to form its own government. They call their community: The Town of Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five town council members. None of them are elected, of course.
They even boast that their town provides departments of education, medical, finance and land development services.
This Islamic compound has truly become a city-state. Though not recognized as a legitimate township by the City of Hancock, this Islamic community nevertheless enforces its own laws on the citizens within its borders. They do so by using the iron fist of Sharia law.
I interviewed a member of this camp, which sits deep in the Catskills Mountains of upstate New York. The Islamic group that has established this camp is part a network known as Muslims of the Americas (MOA), which has documented links to Al Qaeda.
MOA has established similar villages in nearly three-dozen locations nationwide, with other prominent camps found in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Tennessee.
The man I interviewed, Ali Aziz, painted a shocking picture of what life is like to live inside these camps and how many of their members engage in terrorist training activities. Aziz, an Egyptian Muslim, worked as an undercover informant for eight years for the New York Police Department (NYPD). During that time, he lived on MOA camps and worked closely with MOA leadership, all the time supplying the NYPD with information about illegal activity on the campsincluding guerilla combat training.
Aziz was drawn into the life of an informant after police arrested him years ago on a passport violation. Aziz was fluent in both English and Arabic, and he had been an Olympic Judo athlete.
I knew the martial arts, he said, which (MOA) liked. I could teach them Arabic. I could teach them how to read the Quran. He was welcome with open arms by MOA members and its leaders.
I have visited the outside of the Hancock compound a couple times and flown over it once. Its typical of virtually every other MOA camp. Its in a heavily wooded area off the beaten path, with mostly battered trailers and homes and a couple of newly constructed buildings thrown into the mix. It has dirt roads lined with old cars, new cars and junk cars. Wooded debris, discarded scrapings and demolished buildings can be seen throughout the area, giving it an unsightly appearance from above.
It has its own graveyard, similar to those found on other camps. And the property has a couple of small lakes which have been used as open areas to shoot their weapons across. Not surprisingly, Hancock also has a guard shack to intercept unwanted visitors.
By all accounts, Hancockwhich now calls itself The Town of Islambergis the camp that houses the leaders of MOA and makes decisions for the rest of the camps throughout the United States.
Aziz provided this shocking information: MOA has created a secret jihadist army, similar to a guerilla-trained militia, that is ready to attack American citizens at one word from their leader, Sheikh Gilani.
One of the main purposes of the camps is to provide guerilla training for the young menand in some cases the womento be prepared for jihad. A videotape that I obtained exclusively shows MOA members being trained on the Hancock camp, shooting guns, pretending to attack with knives, practicing slitting throats, and strangling victims. This chilling video is proof that MOA compounds have been used to train Islamic terrorists for combat.
Aziz confirmed that the camps have stockpiles of illegal weapons.
Aziz also confirmed what my research had already shown: That the MOAs policy was to encourage members to collect as much public assistance as possible, and the more children they had the more assistance they received, much of which is returned to Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan.
Aziz explained that the residents of the MOA believe that their top leader, Sheikh Gilani, is able to travel through space and time, and that he spies on them at all times. This fear helps keep them from disobeying the strict laws of MOA and the town leaders.
They think Gilani will turn them into a monkey, he said.
MOA members are to follow Gilanis orders blindly and without questioning. Gilani teaches his followers that jihad is their purpose in life. Aziz confirms that four generations of MOA members have been brought up on these campstaught from birth to distrust Americans and to prepare for jihad. The young men are trained to be criminals. Aziz calls them modern warrior slaves.
For some in the MOA camps, theyve never known any other life, said Aziz. Their schooling, where there is schooling, is laughable, possibly even criminal. In the York, South Carolina, MOA compound children are taught in a storage shed. Local authorities are fearful of even discussing how these children are taught and what they are being taught.
The most vulnerable and emotionally abused on the camps are women. They are insecure, Aziz said of the women. They dont know anything. They dont know about the outside world. They depend on everything from a man.
Many of the women are forced into polygamous marriages at very early ages, marriages that take place inside the camps. Aziz calls them silent weddings. Though such silent weddings are standard throughout all the villages, not all marriages are illegal.
More than 90 percent of the women are on state benefits, Aziz claims, with a portion of this money going back to Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan. They have so many kids, he said of the women. Eight kids. Nine kids. They have to raise them and they dont have a lot.
Not a lot of money. Not a lot of housing. Frequent brutality from their husbands. And a lot of kids. Thats a womans fate on the camps.
Because of their seclusion, lack of education, forced marriages, fear of beatings, dependency on men and their religious slavery to Sheikh Gilani and his male lieutenants, women in the camps are stripped of any independent desire to flee. After four generations, Aziz said, they are living in their comfort zone.
Discipline on the camps is ruthless, and is executed as both punishment and to intimidate followers from ever leaving.
This is one thing I want you to really believe, Aziz told me in one of his most distressed moments during the interview. If somebody breaks a command, you could be tied to a tree and hit with sticks. This is crazy.
Members are beaten for such violations as cursing, disobedience to the leaders, lying, using birth control or even watching programs on TV theyre not supposed to watch.
Sometimes they do a crime, Aziz said, explaining that a crime is doing something forbidden by Sheikh Gilani. Sometimes they do a crime like that and they lash you. I gave the NYPD some tapes of evidence of kids getting beat, women tied to trees, stuff like that. That put me in a bad situation because I exposed these abuses.
I saw a 50-year-old woman tied to a tree and getting beaten This is what I think is the biggest disgrace, the abuse. The only thing is, nobody on the camps says anything. Of course theyre afraid.
Some people are there because theyre scared, Aziz said. They dont know what to do. They have their children there. Theyre scared of the wrath of Gilani. They are so controlled, so brainwashed. Its crazy.
Welfare fraud is rampant. Aziz said that children on the Hancock compound learn at an early age that its OK to commit crimes against non-Muslims and engage in scams. A lot of them do welfare fraud. They do all kind of scams.
Drug dealing is also common and is used as a source of income for MOA. The drug money goes back to Gilani, Aziz said, referring to their terrorist leader who rules them from Pakistan.
I gave the NYPD enough information to shut the camps down, he said.
That evidence included: The sexual abuse of women. The physical abuse of children. The failure to educate girls. Such criminal activity as drug running, welfare fraud and illegal weapons. And worse.
Ali said, I would get into trouble if I told you everything I was providing the NYPD. It would violate my immunity. I was providing information to the NYPD about people who committed some very serious crimes. Im talking about And then he stopped and asked, What is worse crime you can commit?
Ali never answered that open-ended question, riffed with imaginative answers. But he left no question about the goal of MOA and their city-states that they are forming across America.
The ultimate purpose, Ali said, is to be ready when the time is right.
You walk up to them and ask them, What do you want to do? I want to fight for Gilani. Thats what they want, Ali said. Its not good.
Martin Mawyer is the Founder and President of Christian Action Network, a non-profit public advocacy and education group based in Lynchburg, Virginia. He began his career as a freelance journalist and has authored several books, including Silent Shame, The Pro-Family Contract With America, Pathways to Success, and his most recent, Twilight in America: The Untold Story of Islamic Terrorist Training Camps Inside America. He has produced a number of documentary films, including Homegrown Jihad, Islam Rising, Sacrificed Survivors and Americas Islamic Threat. Mawyer has appeared on The OReilly Factor, Hannity, Larry King Live, Pat Robertsons 700 Club, NBCs Today Show, Entertainment Tonight and Fox and Friends. His latest book, Twilight in America, co-authored by Patti A. Pierucci, details the activities of Islamic terrorist training camps scattered throughout the United States. It can be purchased atTwilightInAmerica.com, or Amazon.com in book or Kindle version.
The camp in Clover, SC is about 10-15 miles from a nuclear reactor.
1. The MSM will run around blaming the vast right wing conspiracy, NRA, Christians, and psychotic veterans. When they can't sell that lie any longer, they'll shift to “What have we done to make them hate us?” mode.
2. Big Sis will turn out the DHS thugs to terrorize the populace. Big city mayors will turn out the cops and SWAT teams to stand around, shoot up the countryside, and collect overtime pay. The Muslim perps will get a pass unless some civilian comes up with the evidence that's so damning it cannot be ignored.
3. POTUS will dither and tell us how this isn't an act of terrorism but a misplaced act of Muslim “lone wolves”.
4. Liberals will have to be put on major antidepressants because their best allies in destroying America have embarrassed them yet again.
5. People in these stricken large metro areas will mill about like frightened sheep, bleating for government to save them from everyone else except the real Muslim terrorists. They will do this because it would spoil our “diversity” and interfere with the PC bubbles they call their “lives”.
Yup, I think I've got the script down pat. The Boston Marathon Bombing was just a small scale preview of things to come. As the song says: “looks like we're in for nasty weather; there's a bad moon on the rise”.
[[And they want to take away our guns??]]
Yes, yes they do, and htis is precisely why- Dissarm law abidign citizens so that violent jihadists won’t face any serious opposition when they launch their war on the west- I woudl not be oen bit surprised if our govenrment is beign bought off by the jihadists to look the other way-
I’ts amazing how fast our govenrment moves in to burn down organizations liek htey did in Waco texas and Ruby Ridge, but then turn aroudn and do NOTHING abotu places liek islamberg where peopel are coming out from undercover and warnign our govenrment that we’ve got seriosu terrorists in trainign right in our own back yards-
VA, TN, AL, SC, GA, MI, OK, TX???!!!
Attention rednecks...what the hell y’all been doing?
[[looks like more special treatment for the Moslems, and I think these compounds have been around for years.]]
Absolutely they’ve been aroudn for years- the public by and large has not been aware of it but our govnrment most certainly has and they’ve ignored them or perhaps even gone so far as to give them special privileges not afforded regular law abiding citizens-
In France- there are whole districts that are compeltely muslim sharia law run where police will NOT go for fear of being murdered- France allowed them to infiltrate and take over france’s legal system by replacign their legal system with Sharia law, and now they’ve got a seriosu problem o ntheir hands- We’re headign i nthe same exact direction too- Thanks to our capitulating to islam govenrment
[[I sent this information years ago to Peter King, my Congressional reps and the FBI, along with a DVD produced by Christian Action Network. No one gives a damn.]]
Maybe you shoudl resend him thsi article, and say “I sent you this infromatio nyears ago and haven’t heard back fro myou- What’s the deal? Do you folks in washington just not give a damn? What if this were white supremacy group, or a White Christian doomsday preperation group? Do you in washington Represent we the peopel or not? Why no answer from you?
[[yet, Obama and DHS are running around spying on white, conservative, Christians, preppers and/or people who just like guns.]]
Perhaps peopel at town hall meetings that are discussing gun laws shoudl be standign up and asking “Well you want to confiscate our guns, but what about dissarmign islamic groups like islamasberg in NY and 34 other groups all across Aemrica that apapfrently are trainign for jihad?
Would be priceless to see the left scramble to deny there’s any such groups
[[but it is still a shock to see it right there...training in America to kill Americans.]]
What’s even more shickign is the FACT tbhat we the peopel are no doubt forced to fund it via our tax dollars goign to support thsoe muslims somehow soem way- (Remember, the l;atest bombers in boston were all on welfare)
That sounds like a call to action for their special forces and military. Why wouldn't moslems commandeering territory and killing police be considered an act of war?
[[That sounds like a call to action for their special forces and military]]
They wouldn’t dare- because hten the muslims woudkl launch a ‘formal jihad’ war on france, and france is too afraid of such a war
[[Why wouldn’t moslems commandeering territory and killing police be considered an act of war?]]
It should be, but we’;re talkign aqbotu france- and we’re seeign the same damn thing happenign here i nthe us with courts being forced to even concider lawsuits by muslims and cair and ilk to include or allow sharial aw in soem instances- Thankfully our courts up till now have said Nope- no way- but it’s only a matter of time- Even native indians won’t have the same privileges that muslism will have eventaully- Dear leader and ilk are frothign at htem outh gtrying to turn us into europe- and we see what’s happened in europe with them uslims takign over- it’s comign here too
Read jihadwatch (dot org I beleive it was- might be dot come- but do a search for jihad watch and you’;ll be shocked at how afraid govenrments really are of muslims and how dug in muslism are all over hte world- It’s comign folks- it’s only a matter of time- for now they arem sotly ‘passive’ getting themselves established- but France needs to be a warnign to us, a wake up call- bwecause once established- govenrments will be loathe to curtail them fearign reprisals from our ‘allies’ i nthem iddle east- Hell- we’re even takign money away rom seniors, dissabvled peopel and veterans in roder to give it to muslim nations
And there have been exposes on these Moslem compounds and training grounds before, but the news only hangs around the margins for a few days and disappears. This one will probably be the same.
[[And there have been exposes on these Moslem compounds and training grounds before, but the news only hangs around the margins for a few days and disappears. This one will probably be the same.]]
The MSM woudl be forced to deal with it if the tea party were to carry signs and march and stating soemthign akin to “Our govenrment burned waco to the ground, shot and killed folks at ruby ridge, yet right here in Aemrica we have 35 established terrorist training facilities run by muslims? What’s goign on Washington?”
here’s an article on the riots by muslims in france and the fear the police had in tryign to calm the riots for fear of beign labelled as racists:
I had forgotten abotu thsi, but htere are whoel sectiosn in FRance that are designated “No Go’ areas by the police- in which the polcie do NOT go into for fear of their lives-
I used to run a blog and kept a prettyy close eye on muslim activity aroudn the world and hte attrocities commited by them- here’s an article abotu he ‘no go’ areas
‘They go by the euphemistic term Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, with the even more antiseptic acronym ZUS, and there are 751 of them as of last count. They are convienently listed on one long webpage, complete with street demarcations and map delineations.
What are they? Those places in France that the French state does not control. They range from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassone to twelve in the heavily Muslim town of Marseilles, with hardly a town in France lacking in its ZUS. The ZUS came into existence in late 1996 and according to a 2004 estimate, nearly 5 million people live in them.’
If a man chooses evil and murder as his religion, it is pretty easy to see that the man is evil, and a murderer.
Nice of them to put bulleyes on their Jihad hats.
France is struggling to figure out its Islamic problem. The radical Muslims are like spiritual rabies, there is no structure or leadership. France does not know who to surrender to.
spell check can be your friend.
-sarcasm, but true-
Spell check and preview are your friend...
This nutjob has a facebook page!
From The Counter Jihad Report:
[snip]In a recruitment video captured from Gilanis Soldiers of Allah, he states in English: We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America.
Though Gilani and his organization is suspected of committing assassinations and firebombings inside the U.S., and is also suspected of the beheading murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, the terrorist camps spread through the country continue to expand in numbers and population.
[[Spell check and preview are your friend...]]
I have no friends
[[spell check can be your friend.]]
not itnerested- but how bout them links I provided huh? Scarey stuff-
Never got to your links, the scrambled writing was too hard on the brain.
Amazed at number 11.
Can I get me a Terrorist huntin’ license here?
You don’t actually expect us to read your posts do you?
They are NOT!
They are non combative support personnel.
They provide cover, concealment, and any other aid necessary for the murderers that lurk among them.
Don't bet on it. Civies caught this guy with powder burns fleeing in Boston!
GD,...seen this one?
Seems like it has been some time since post on this issue have surfaced.
[[Never got to your links, the scrambled writing was too hard on the brain.]]
Well your loss then- whatever-
nope not at all
The real question is whether the great awakening is too little and too late. I really don't know.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
just saw this abotu King watnign stepped up surveilance of muslims
Reps. Ellison And King Clash Over Whether Police Should Step Up Surveillance Of Muslim Community
Not that it’s the same as monitoring known jihadi terrorist trainign camps i nthe US as per your question to him- but He at least is one of hte only ones tryign to do somethign about the islamic terrorist scourge infestign hte US-
I do hope he answers your second letter aBOTU THE 35 camps throughout hte US though- and ask why they aren’t beign cited for illegal guns and investigated for terrorist links?
Below, Anderson Cooper Interviews a very brave Boston Bombing victim Heather Abbott.
We can't help feel for this attractive and very well turned out victim as she comes out of surgery to tell her brave story of survival.
However, a quick search of Hollywood actors and actresses who are available to perform in TV, movies etc, we find a professional actress advertising her trade. She's not the only crisis actor we found advertising their skills on Hollywood Amputees. Look at Heather's professional bio. below
The truth is a valuable commodity that our government is using to deceive us. Why are they boosting the terror in Boston through the use of actors & actresses? They don't seem to be trying to hide their involvement very well, might be a more important question?
well, bye. Just told you a few minutes ago that idiot conspiracy crap is not welcome on FR.