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Harry Reid: Tea Party Like Anarchists, Govt. 'Inherently Good'
breitbart.com ^ | 4/24/13 | Tony Lee

Posted on 04/25/2013 11:51:23 AM PDT by ColdOne

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) believes the Tea Party is ideologically similar to anarchists and that government is "inherently good."

Speaking on the Senate floor on Tuesday, Reid said he was frustrated that, "We have a situation where this country has been driven by the Tea Party for the last number of years." He then insinuated Tea Partiers were like anarchists.

"When I was in school, I studied government and I learned about the anarchists. Now, they were different than the Tea Party because they were violent," Reid said. "But they were anarchists because they did not believe in government in any level and they acknowledged it."

Reid asserted that unlike the anarchists he learned about in school, the Tea Party "kind of hides that" by not acknowledging, he claimed, that they do not believe in any form of government.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 113th; anarchists; reid; teaparty

1 posted on 04/25/2013 11:51:23 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

If this is true, why doesn’t he move to officially get rid of the Constitution? If government is inherently good, limiting it must be evil, right?


2 posted on 04/25/2013 11:53:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ColdOne

Harry Reid believes that Grimm’s Fairy Tales is non-fiction too.


3 posted on 04/25/2013 11:53:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ColdOne

Anyone who believes that government is “inherently good” is either mentally ill, or evil. In Harry Reid’s case, it is pretty obvious he’s evil.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 11:54:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: ColdOne

Harry Reid is yet another left-wing arsonist in a field of straw men.


5 posted on 04/25/2013 11:54:06 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: ColdOne
Only 'anarchists' I've ever met were leftists.

SnakeDoc

6 posted on 04/25/2013 11:56:34 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: Little Ray
Fortunately, our Founders did not share Harry Reid's infantile level of comprehension. Instead they knew that government, when untethered to fixed limits and enumerated powers, is inherently dangerous to liberty. The Constitution does not make government "good" or "bad". It makes it limited.

But Harry Reid is not merely stupid but also power-hungry, and does not wish to entertain any arguments as to why he and his fellow Statists cannot do whatever they want simply by making endless claims of "public interest", while littering the airwaves with scary straw men and false choices.

7 posted on 04/25/2013 11:56:53 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: nickcarraway

Appearently Harry has never read our founding fathers’
writings when they said, “Trust but verify.”


8 posted on 04/25/2013 11:57:42 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ColdOne
Reid shows his ignorance.

The Tea Party are nothing like anarchists. Tea Party believes in honesty, traditional values, good government and patriotism. Anarchists believe in violence and destruction against innocent targets.

Government is only good if it does good things. Government can be corrupt, wasteful and destructive.

Our Founding Fathers understood the importance of limiting government power. The great intellectuals like John Locke, Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and others also understood it. The Tea Party and conservatives also understand it.

Harry Reid doesn't understand it.

9 posted on 04/25/2013 11:59:41 AM PDT by detective
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To: ColdOne

Power is always good when you’re the one wielding it.

It’s good to be the king, right Harry?

You can ask any tyrant in history whether they thought government was good, especially THEIR government, and they’ll all tell you it’s the bee’s knees.

Are there any journalists left on the planet?


10 posted on 04/25/2013 12:01:18 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ColdOne

hum?
I never knew that limited government IE Constitutional government was anarchism.
Just love love love learning new stuff everyday.


11 posted on 04/25/2013 12:02:38 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: detective
The Tea Party are nothing like anarchists.

You know, that was my immediate reaction as well. But if you're coming from a mindset where government directs every action of your day from the toothpaste you use in the morning to the warm milk you drink before you go to bed (I HOPE it isn't raw) then the notion of human freedom has to look pretty anarchistic. That isn't the Tea Party's fault, it's the fault of the people who actually want to be mice running in a wheel.

A society is dead when its members are afraid of freedom. Ours is dying.

12 posted on 04/25/2013 12:04:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SnakeDoctor

And very gullible, easily led ones at that. We’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan, when’s the next big anti-war rally? By the same token, anyone remember the No Nukes concerts back in the 80’s? Bruce Springsteen, Jackson Brown, Pat Benatar, a then up and coming Madonna and just about anyone who was someone performed to raise awareness about the looming nuclear holocaust because they saw Reagan as a doddering old man with his finger on the button. Where are they now that Iran and N Korea got nukes?


13 posted on 04/25/2013 12:06:15 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: ColdOne

Hey Harry!

“Anarchy” is what you have when the president is ruling by executive orders, the AG won’t enforce the law, and congress sends up legislation that nobody has read!


14 posted on 04/25/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: ColdOne
government is "inherently good."

The founding fathers didn't think so. Even if he's making the point that the American form of government is "inherently good", then he needs to speak out whenever Barack Hussein Obama calls out congressmen and Supreme Court justices as "liars" and "wrong". There are THREE branches of government. He continually tries to circumvent the checks and balances to rule by executive order fiat.

15 posted on 04/25/2013 12:10:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: ColdOne

After hearing a few of my rants, some listeners accusingly say “You’re a Conservative!”. I half expect them to hold up a cross.

I tell ‘em, “No, I’m a liberal.” After the deer-in-headlights kicks in, I expand. “Ackshully, I’m a ‘Liberal Anarchist’. There are some things that are the governments job, but most of what they do isn’t.”

Gets ‘em every time.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: ColdOne

A government can only be inherently good when goodness inheres in government. Can’t happen while it is engaged in the mass slaughter of innocents.


17 posted on 04/25/2013 12:12:16 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: ColdOne

It’s time for this old fag to retire and spend more time with his family (if he has one). He’s an America hating Ameriphobe of the highest order. KMA Dingy!


18 posted on 04/25/2013 12:12:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: ColdOne

When the RNC had the convention in Minneapolis a few years back, they had an interview with some “anarchists” that were planning a protest. The spokesman stated that their greatest challenge was organization and coordination. Derp.


19 posted on 04/25/2013 12:16:51 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: ColdOne

i never believed Govt was “inherently good”... although some government is necessary and sometimes people can do some good things through their government as the vehicle for proper (constitutional) organized social efforts

however,
government is certainly not “inherently good” ... at best, government is just a reflection of the citizens who create it

and, alas, a reflection of the liars and thieves (and ego-maniacal jerks) who seem to be so strongly attracted into it

such as, many would say, Senator Reid (you know, the guy who won’t pass a budget so we would have a chance of finding out where the last $6 Trillion of extra spending went)


20 posted on 04/25/2013 12:24:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: ColdOne

The Hairy Reed is the antichrist.


21 posted on 04/25/2013 12:25:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: andy58-in-nh

Harry Reid is not stupid. You do not get to be Senate Majority Leader by being stupid.

He might be corrupt, vindictive, petty, manipulative, power-hungry, and plain evil, but he is not stupid.


22 posted on 04/25/2013 12:27:54 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: faithhopecharity

That’s one of the dichotomies that you’ll encounter between the left and the right.

The left has an inherent trust in government always doing the right thing and having benevolent motives toward society.

Conservatives, including the founders, inherently distrusted government, more specifically government power, and the founding documents reflected this distrust by limiting the powers of the government.


23 posted on 04/25/2013 12:28:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ColdOne
I thought the Tea Party were Nazis? How can one be a Nazi and an anarchist at the same time?

Although the "palaeolibertarians" seem to pull it off.

24 posted on 04/25/2013 12:29:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Little Ray

Then I’ll vote for “plain evil”, because there’s only one other reason that a man of his age and experience (which excludes the possibility of ignorance) might conclude that government is “inherently good”, and that’s stupidity.


25 posted on 04/25/2013 12:33:59 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: ColdOne

Isaiah 5:20


26 posted on 04/25/2013 12:34:32 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: MrB

I will, for the sake of discussion, grant “the left” that their politicians generally want to “do good things for, or to, society”

I will, for the sake of discussion, even grant that they sometimes DO achieve good things for society

It still baffles me how many “leftists” can so completely ignore, or gloss over, the patent facts that ... on many other occasions, their politicians do some very terrible things to society ... (the obvious candidates: Hitler, Stalin, Mao.... slaughtered how many tens of millions of people?)

At the very least, “the left” should be able to acknowledge that governmental powers can be abused, even by their own “side” ——— and go on from there with their political objectives ... in a more realistic, and careful, manner


27 posted on 04/25/2013 12:35:09 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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28 posted on 04/25/2013 12:36:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: faithhopecharity

It’s their Humanism that doesn’t allow them to see the dangers.

You can bring up Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc, all day long, and it makes no impact on them, because they don’t even entertain the idea that the people in power now, that they support, could possibly do the things those guys did.

After all (and this is the basis of Humanism), “I’m a good person, so those I support must be good people too”.


29 posted on 04/25/2013 12:38:07 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ColdOne
"Government is not inherently bad," he retorted; "government is inherently good."

Thus spake Big Brother. George Orwell saw you coming decades ago and warned us about you and your ilk.

30 posted on 04/25/2013 12:39:54 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: ColdOne
He then insinuated Tea Partiers were like anarchists.

No, no - libertarians are anarchists. Reid needs to read more FR.

31 posted on 04/25/2013 12:41:01 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: MrB

well, THEY may be good people, but the persons they support may or may NOT be such good people

at the very least, they should realize that people attracted to powerful governmental posts could have either of at least 2 motivations,
1. to do all sorts of wonderful good things for/to society,
or
2. to mis-use the power for their own gain (and/or ego-maniacal ends)

If the “left” would at least acknowledge this possibility, that there COULD be a misuse of governmental power by certain politicians on occasion, then they would be more likely to screen their candidates to better achieve their true, goodygoody goals

I wish we could convince them of at least that much... we’d all be better off for the effort


32 posted on 04/25/2013 12:44:04 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: ColdOne
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and fearful master.” ― George Washington
33 posted on 04/25/2013 12:45:09 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: ColdOne

hairbrain reid is a fn a-hole.


34 posted on 04/25/2013 12:53:21 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: ColdOne

“We have a situation where this country has been driven by the Tea Party for the last number of years.”

WOW, just WOW. I know that he knows that he is flat out lying, but sadly the drone sheeple will buy into this nonsense. All I can say is that if this country was being driven by the Tea Party, then we certainly would not have been enslaved with Obamacare and we would certainly not be approaching $17T in debt.

We haven’t been “driven by the tea party” since 1988.


35 posted on 04/25/2013 12:56:18 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ColdOne

Hmm. A Communist talking smack about anarchists.


36 posted on 04/25/2013 1:03:43 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: ColdOne
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it
is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington

Who should I believe? George Washington or a mob-connected criminal?

37 posted on 04/25/2013 1:04:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: ColdOne

That “inherently good” government that Reid loves so much is the government that allowed for slavery, interned germans and japanese, and many other evils. We are truly living in craziness when people support an individual like this that believes that individuals are “inherently evil,” yet a soulless government organization is “inherently good.”


38 posted on 04/25/2013 1:10:39 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ColdOne
"Government is not inherently bad," he retorted; "government is inherently good."

Everything a government does rests on the use of force. No law actually is a law unless it is backed by the threat of force. So long as what the government makes illegal are merely acts representing the initiation of force, it is the friend and guarantor of freedom. But, to whatever extent the government makes illegal acts that do not represent the initiation of force, it is the enemy and violator of freedom. in making such acts illegal, it becomes the initiator of force.

Thus, while the existence of freedom requires the existence of government, it requires the existence of a very specific kind of government: namely a limited government, a government limited exclusively to the functions of defense and retaliation against the initiation of force-that is, to the provisions of police, courts and national defense.

The responsibility for today's lousy economy is squarely that of the government. At a deeper level it is the responsibility of the pressure groups and the demagogues who are responsible for the government's pursuit of anti capitalistic policies. Above all, at a deeper level still, it is the responsibility of the last several generations of intellectuals who, corrupted by the philosophy of irrationalism, altruism, and collectivism,have polluted the intellectual environment of the country to the point where there is little or no serious opposition to the activities of the pressure groups and the demagogues.

39 posted on 04/25/2013 1:18:22 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: faithhopecharity

“COULD be a misuse of governmental power by certain politicians on occasion,then they would be more likely to screen their candidates to better achieve their true, goodygoody goals

I wish we could convince them of at least that much... we’d all be better off for the effort”

You will never convince them that there could be any misuse of government. They don’t consider the millions killed by Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc as any misuse of government. Just look at how they treat you and me and the tea party in general. They demonize real Americans for daring to speak against dear leader, it is a small step from that demonization to actually supporting the elimination of those that stand in the way of Utopian policies.

See, to them it is PROPER for their leaders to eliminate anyone or anything that is standing in the way of the Utopian world that they desire and could accomplish if they would just get rid of their opposition. It is, after all, better for the remaining citizens if you and I were just eliminated and then we wouldn’t be standing in their way.

What they don’t understand is that there will ALWAYS some enemy or opposition that is preventing the implementation of their Utopian world. That is why the left is always creating groups and then pitting them against each other.

They will not be convinced, because they are useful idiots and they will be used, until it is their time to be killed.


40 posted on 04/25/2013 1:29:34 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ColdOne

You mean the gambling mob is “inherently good”, you gangster?


41 posted on 04/25/2013 1:30:37 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: ColdOne

our inherently good gumbint at it again:

Washington Exempts Itself From Obamacare and Airport “Sequester” Delay
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-25/washington-exempts-itself-obamacare-airport-sequester-delays

Gov’t Spending $152,500 to Study Voice Therapy for Transgenders
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gov-t-spending-152500-study-voice-therapy-transgenders


42 posted on 04/25/2013 1:31:29 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: nickcarraway; All

Don’t give whorehouse Harry any bright ideas.


43 posted on 04/25/2013 7:35:56 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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