Skip to comments.Feinstein: Buy a shotgun to defend yourself from terrorists
Posted on 04/22/2013 7:29:17 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged
Feinstein cited the Vice President Joe Bidens promotion of the use of a shotgun for self-defense.
[Y]ou could use a 12-gauge shotgun and have a good defensive effect and theres the element of surprise, she added.
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Hey thanks for the tip Diane! I’ll go right out and purchase a Siaga 12 with a big drum magazine. How’s that?
Time for DiFi to have a mental examination.
And no, don't fire two "blasts" into the air. Only Slow Joe Bitme is dumb enough to do that.
Aim (yes, you do have to aim a shotgun) at the bad guy's center of mass.
Of course, and AR-15 also makes a dandy self-defense weapon. Preferably with several of the standard capacity 30rd magazines.
Senator Dianne Feinstein (Dem-Calif.) stood by her push for an assault-weapons ban when Fox News Sundays Chris Wallace pressed her on whether Boston and Watertown residents may have preferred to arm and protect themselves on Friday while the suspect was at large. If where youre going is, do they need an assault weapon? I dont think so, she said. (Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
No,DiFi, a sixth grader knows better than you.
O.K. Diane - YOU buy a shotgun to deal with a terrorist attacker.
I’ll use an M-1 Garand to defend MYSELF.
Then we will see who the terrorists take out and who they don’t.
What a totally clueless idiot and idiologue.
I would be interested in what Senator Feinstein would recommend as weapon of choice to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government?
Every Democrat needs to take an NRA safety class.
And quit fantasizing about firing warning shots into the night, or blasting through your front door.
I bet one dollar that no one has ever shown her a 12 gauge slug and 5.56 round side by side...
thats not fair, I mean really the choice between a naked DiFi or a Oreintal Hottie... really, which would YOU choose :)
Besides the fact that she is stupid and corrupt, for the vast majority this is not such a bad idea. Little training or practice required to produce some significant deterrent effect.
A shotgun is easy to use effectively and at the short ranges of an urban environment against criminals or a mob probably just as effective or more so than a 5.56. A pretty good weapon also for a militia tasked with keeping public order.
Being an out-of-practice, out of shape duffer, I personally would much rather have a 6-shot 12ga pump than an AR-15 if the times got more interesting.
In open country or in a city where the opposition is a military or paramilitary force it would be much less effective because of inability to penetrate body armor and poor range. Also not so good for sustained suppressive fire for tactical purposes. So a lower value (though not negligible) choice for an effective anti-government guerilla force, which is the implied purpose of the second amendment in the present context.
The best (for the typical person) guerilla weapon legally available to US civilians is certainly the 5.56 semiautomatic rifle.
I have a shotgun. But hard to keep a shotgun in your nightstand.
yeah..rim....with Larry Sinclair..and Reggie Love...
Oh, she has touched them, having photographs taken of her doing so in her ongoing efforts to ban as many of them as she can. She has or owns a gun herself, too.
What she hasn't experienced is being herself shot at. Or defending herself with firearms, alone and outnumbered. Or being mugged. Or suffering house invasion, car jacking, or your garden variety convenience store robbery. In the latter, all she can think of are the guns aimed at shopkeepers, but never acknowledgement of those aimed right back at the criminals (except for cops doing so).
Now she recommends shotguns. Maybe this is progress in the right direction, and we should coo at her, making pleasant noises to solidify what she just said...then work on getting her to revise and extend those comments.
Shotguns can be unwieldy in tight quarters, since short barrels have been deemed taboo. Pistol-grip rigs are too "scary" also. (I should have bought that stainless Mossberg 20 gauge cruiser for about $225 when I had the chance).
Handguns are quicker to draw out from beneath the cash register, Diane. Don't you want people to be able to protect themselves? But Diane, your own bodyguards carry handguns. Don't you have a California concealed carry permit, yourself Diane?
So WE change the subject away from scary looking "high-power" semi-auto rifles to handguns for a while, then to "high-power" bolt actions, which can have a LOT more down-range power than typical .223 AR variant. After pounding them on handgun possession as sadly enough, necessary equalizer (necessary to protect the innocent ---women and children too) then we go on to the idea most Americans should not be prohibited from possessing and carrying on their persons a handgun (unless we can openly carry shotguns and bolt-action rifles?) without there being just cause --like certifiable insanity, felony conviction involving use of force, or habitual criminal, etc.
One big problem with having only a shotgun to defend oneself against "terrorists", is that that leaves a person having to get within 35 or 40 yards. If they have guns (they'll get 'em somewhere, even if they have to smuggle them in concealed in bales of marijuana) why afford then that advantage? The cops searching for ONE skinny 19 yr old, inexperienced noOb, were geared up to the max. All we ask for, are at least basic minimums, for ourselves. Those minimums do not begin and end with blunderbusses.
I'll promise to put only 25 rnds in a 30 rnd mag, if that will help...but need the extra 5 rnds worth of empty space in the magazine to help extend mag-spring life.
Isn’t there some sort of geneva treaty regarding shotguns and the army. They are considered a weapon of mass destruction? or something along those lines?
So feinstein is just playing a shell game. Telling americans to violate the “international law” with something that will be confiscated as banned.
most women can’t handle a 12 gauge shotgun let alone fight with it my wife included. Give her a 9 mm Uzi though and she’s quite effective. as for me, I was an infantry rifleman. I’ll take an AR15 thank you.
We will need a shotgun to defend ourselves from Slimestein.
I could also use a Feinswine blow-up doll to beat the perp over the head. That would also contain an element of surprise.
Ill take an AR15 thank you.
Meh - AR15 is, IMO, overrated.
That’s all true but she still isn’t too bright. I remember when she was questioning Sam Alito and he gave a detailed answer which was perfectly understandable to me (but I actually read the constitution and history) but she said “well I don’t understand that, so let’s move on.” And she’s on the Judiciary committee! She works by emotion and not by actual thought. She can’t intellecutually do battle with somebody like Cruz.
If the name of a previously widely banned shotgun was changed from “street sweeper” “citizen’s anti terror 12 gauge” could they be made available again? A 20 rnd drum is sufficient. They tell me the 30rnd and larger are a bit too heavy.
citing the obvious re assault weapons ban and gun control in general: as though politicians really give a rat’s ass about the safety of US citizens. Gun control is nothing more than the politicians and the elites who control them wanting to deny the citizens the ability to reach out and touch one of their own. this unspoken fact (taboo) needs to become common knowledge to every US citizen. Gun control IS NOT ABOUT THE CHLDERN
And the other California dingbat - Boxer - stated “I’m not answering these questions” when Santorum was pinning her down on when a baby was a baby and not subject to partial birth abortion.
Yea, I’m not looking to defend if someone comes in my house.
I’m on the offensive and moving towards them as I unload magazines in their mortal bodies....
Irrespective of what this corrupt crook says I happen to think that in urban areas a shotgun is very effective home defense weapon.
what is that? is that real?
Oh man, I read that wrong. 00 buck is in fact more likely to over penetrate in some cases. Sigh.
Incidentally, I agree that this is neither here nor there with respect to the larger argument: It’s none of this hag’s business to make MY home defense choices for US.
Capacity: 14 rounds in 2 onboard magazines, and one locked and loaded. . .
It is the KelTek KSG.
It is real, but good luck finding one.
The KSG weighs 6.9 lbs. and is as compact as legally possible with a 26.1 overall length and an 18.5 cylinder bore barrel. Even with this compact size, the internal dual tube magazines hold an impressive 12 rounds of 12 gauge 3 rounds in total (6 per tube). It can also reliably shoot shells as short as 1 3/4” up to the 3”
I would LOVE to have an AA-12, but so far as I know, there’s no civilian semi-auto version produced. And that is one SERIOUSLY pimped-out Saiga 12, and it doesn’t even have ALL the tacti-cool accessories. . .
Pretty much says it all - great post.
I’ve seen plenty of them on Gunbroker. You just have to be willing to play $1800 or more for a weapon with a list price of $1149. . .
Shotguns are typically ineffective against body armor and you can be easily killed by an armored assailant (militarized jackboot) who knows you only have shotguns.
Some really get carried away:
Buy it for $4,000.00
Which is why I use slugs in my home-defense shotgun. . . if nothing else, I just broke several ribs. . .
Yup. And I don't think she used it to conceal a shotgun.
She wants her closer foreign relatives to have an advantage against us, eh?
opinions vary. I have the AR10 for special occasions.
Now, I'm all in favor of the element of surprise in this sort of engagement but if you're being attacked by terrorists you probably don't have a lot of options regarding stalking the buggers. Chances are you're standing and fighting because you can't run. "Cowboys and terrorists" makes for great fantasy fare but I don't see a lot of real-world tactical scenarios working out that way. I wish it were otherwise - the good guys would win more if it were.
That said, a shotgun makes a jolly close-range defensive weapon, especially if you'll lose the bird-shot silliness and recognize that if you have to shoot at someone you're not really going to be overly worried about overpenetration - the first object is to put them down, hard, so that they don't get up. It's a weapon, for Pete's sake, not a warning. And most (but not all) self-defense scenarios are within its effective range.
That said, they're a pain to tote and slower than a pistol to present. And practice sufficient to make me even marginally tactically proficient tends to make me sore as hell. And no, you can't assume that shot spread makes up for poor marksmanship, because it doesn't. But I'd sure rather have one than want one.
I like shotguns.
An article written by a coroner a few months back noted that even kevlar body armor won’t help survivability against a shotgun blast. There will be sufficient internal organ damage from blunt force impact that unless the wounded gets medical attention with 20 or 30 minutes, he will expire from the impact injuries.
DiFi, can I have that in semiauto with rifled barrel and a scope? Didn’t think so, mind your own business.
Feinstein: Buy a shotgun to defend yourself from terrorists
she needs a keeper certifiably incompetent
ever hear a pump shotgun rack a round? no surprise there