[FredZarguna]

This is not even an argument, any more than the claim that Reform Christians and their ideas eventually led to the creation of the United States of America, a country in whose formation the Roman Church played virtually no role.

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[Cronos]

their ideas eventually led to the creation of the

Incorrect -- many of the founders were Deists and there were 4 Catholic signers, so it wasn't the reformers ideas

The framers of the constitution instinctively harked back to ancient Greece and Rome and set up their institutions based on Rome (the Senate for example or congressus) -- so do read up on history before commenting