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Harry Reid wants online sales tax on Senate floor (wants to bypass Baucus)
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Posted on 04/18/2013 4:01:45 AM PDT by Perdogg

A state online sales tax fix may leapfrog its way right to the Senate floor.

Majority Leader Harry Reid began the process late Tuesday that would allow the bill, known as the Marketplace Fairness Act, to come before the full chamber without first going through the Senate Finance Committee — whose leaders largely dislike the proposal.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
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What origination clause?
1 posted on 04/18/2013 4:01:45 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: sickoflibs; South40; Perdogg; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...

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2 posted on 04/18/2013 4:02:52 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Perdogg

Isn’t the US House responsible for this stuff?


3 posted on 04/18/2013 4:15:08 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Perdogg

All state goverments that charge sales tax.


4 posted on 04/18/2013 4:28:09 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: carriage_hill

I think only on tax increae laws that pertain to the Feds. This is a state to state issue hopefully which gets trumped by the commerce clause. Poor Barky, all his little endeavors seem to be running head long into that document which he detests so much. Weed, er Reid is doing Barky’s bidding here by embarrassing Baccus by the end run...the good news is nothing good can come from that for Dingy or for Barky.


5 posted on 04/18/2013 4:29:14 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Perdogg

Exactly why do we need more taxes? This is as much a bald face lie as when that guy who was in the beginning of cable tv told me without blinking an eye yes, cable would have no advertising.


6 posted on 04/18/2013 4:29:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Perdogg

“Marketplace Fairness Act”: I just love when my greedy crooks in congress go all Orwellian on me.


7 posted on 04/18/2013 4:36:11 AM PDT by Amagi (Obama is never so animated as when he is assaulting the Constitution.)
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To: freekitty

Exactly why do we need more taxes?


Apparently you just don’t understand. We need more taxes so that we can grow the government. After all, the government is good for you and will take care of your every need.

Right now, the government needs more money so that they can get some more from you later and later and later and later......

/s


8 posted on 04/18/2013 4:36:37 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Perdogg
Marketplace Fairness Act

Have they drafted the Anti-Dog Eat Dog Act yet?

9 posted on 04/18/2013 4:52:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Mouton

Hope you’re right. Hope they both soil themselves in anger. But 0scumbag’s got a drawer full of EOs, and he might just use ‘em. He could give a crap about the US Constitution of Law of The Land.


10 posted on 04/18/2013 4:53:47 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Perdogg

Online items are already ‘taxed’ by the price of shipping a buyer has to pay.


11 posted on 04/18/2013 5:00:11 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: Perdogg; South40; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”A state online sales tax fix may leapfrog its way right to the Senate floor. Majority Leader Harry Reid began the process late Tuesday that would allow the bill, known as the Marketplace Fairness Act, to come before the full chamber without first going through the Senate Finance Committee — whose leaders largely dislike the proposal......
But the Senate could vote as early as next week on an online sales tax bill, a Senate Democratic aide told “

Now here's one that should be cake to kill. Up till now Dems been cherry picking their issues for ones that poll well, but this one seems like it would be generally unpopular and even Collins should find it easy to oppose.

Living in high tax single party Dem state (Maryland=O Martin Malley) that recently raised sales taxes with many other taxes I love shopping on Amazon so they get nothing in sales taxes.
CA just raised sales taxes too, so much for progressive taxes only on ‘the rich’

Pretty stupid idea for Reid to try to basically raise taxes (rel to high tax states) with the negative consequences for his members that his congress doesn't even get to spend. Who is lobbying him for this?

12 posted on 04/18/2013 5:00:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Perdogg

Well Amazon caved in to sales taxes in Texas. So guess what Amazon? I refuse to pay sales tax and shipping too!


13 posted on 04/18/2013 5:00:43 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: carriage_hill

“But 0scumbag’s got a drawer full of EOs, and he might just use ‘em.”

Hopefully he goes all out with the EO’s. I don’t live on federal property, I don’t work for his government. I am not in the military. So, if he tries to enforce any of his executive regulations upon me and others, there will be all hell to pay for that. Even though he thinks he is, he is not emperor. Frankly, he is on a mental development scale equal to the boy king in North Korea.


14 posted on 04/18/2013 5:03:36 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Mouton

You’re right. Technically, EO’s only aply to Gov’t employees in Exec Branch, but over the past 10-15yrs, they seem to have taken on the ‘force of law’. It’ll take forever to get a ruling from the courts, especially SCOTUS, which is thoroughly-corrupted.


15 posted on 04/18/2013 5:14:21 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Mouton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order


16 posted on 04/18/2013 5:15:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Perdogg

Max Baucus, author of Obamacare, admits he never read his own bill

According to Baucus, the idea of him reading a bill allocating nearly $1 trillion of federal funds is “a waste of time”:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/max-baucus-author-of-obamacare-admits-he-never-read-his-own-bill-101473894.html


17 posted on 04/18/2013 5:43:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Perdogg

It's not the Senate's job to introduce taxation bills. But, Reid, if you convince the House to replace the income tax with a sales tax (fair or flat) --- and I do mean *replace* --- then I'll hear you out.


18 posted on 04/18/2013 6:02:55 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Perdogg; All

No worries, remember B. Hussein PROMISED he would NOT raise taxes....

: I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year...

— which includes a 98 percent of small-business owners, you will not see your taxes increase one single dime under my plan.

Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains tax, no tax. We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class!

You will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat, not one single dime.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/08/04/not-one-single-dime-will-obama-break-his-word-on-raising-taxes-on-middle-class/


19 posted on 04/18/2013 6:08:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: freekitty
Exactly why do we need more taxes?

It's not really about taxes, it's about control.

That said, I actually am in favor, in principle, of an online/mail order/etc. purchase to be subject to sales taxes to the amount of half the normal rate of each of the provider's location and the purchaser's. Using mail/internet order to avoid sales taxes hurts local businesses and generally forces the sales tax rate up to account for the transactions that avoid the tax.

However, from a practical standpoint, this won't work as things currently stand. The problem is that there are too many different taxing jurisdictions and the rules on what is or isn't taxable vary between them as much as the rates themselves do. It's too much of a burden for the seller to accurately collect and remit those taxes.

This would only be feasible if there was a uniform definition of what is or isn't taxable, and that the rates (and collection points) were set at the state, not county or local, level.

20 posted on 04/18/2013 6:16:25 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: sickoflibs

A friend wants me to move (back) to Maryland. Told her I can’t as it would cost me at least 10% of my yearly income just to pay Maryland taxes.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 6:37:29 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: kevkrom

I agree about control; so why should I with my own money be forced to contribute more to the the governments private checking account?


22 posted on 04/18/2013 6:37:37 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: VeniVidiVici
RE :”A friend wants me to move (back) to Maryland. Told her I can’t as it would cost me at least 10% of my yearly income just to pay Maryland taxes.”

Its really tough on the retired who are not rich nor poor enough to get breaks.

Property taxes are typically $5K to 10K per year for a typical middle class house which goes for about $400-500K.
At least NYC gives those over 65 a property tax break for the obvious reason that they dont normally have kids in the public schools cost $$$, but here it doesnt matter to them.

More people here=higher taxes for us the past 10 years or so.

23 posted on 04/18/2013 6:47:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
RE :”A friend wants me to move (back) to Maryland. Told her I can’t as it would cost me at least 10% of my yearly income just to pay Maryland taxes.”

Its really tough on the retired who are not rich nor poor enough to get breaks.

Property taxes are typically $5K to 10K per year for a typical middle class house which goes for about $400-500K.
At least NYC gives those over 65 a property tax break for the obvious reason that they dont normally have kids in the public schools cost $$$, but here it doesnt matter to them.

More people here=higher taxes for us the past 10 years or so.

24 posted on 04/18/2013 6:47:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Perdogg

Clearly, our representatives feel they don’t have enough money to purchase the votes they need to stay in power.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 7:02:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: sickoflibs

I moved out of MD when I joined the Army 30 years ago. Of course, since I entered the service from MD I had to continue to pay MD taxes even though I had NOTHING in the state. I was a 17yo kid.

Finally after several years of paying MD taxes I sent them a letter asking them why I had to pay since I had no ties to the State.

They had the gall to tell me that even though I owned no property in MD I was now paying the State back for all those years of services they provided to me when I was growing up.

I kid you not.


26 posted on 04/18/2013 7:19:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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RE :’They had the gall to tell me that even though I owned no property in MD I was now paying the State back for all those years of services they provided to me when I was growing up.”

I assume this is because you kept your legal residency as Maryland.
Maryland has lots to do drawing more and more people and lots of federal $$$$ but retiring here is a loser.

27 posted on 04/18/2013 7:22:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Leave it up to the Dems to cook up some phoney stats about how internet sales are done overwhelmingly by the “rich”. Just keep going to the well until there is nothing left but toxic sludge.


28 posted on 04/18/2013 9:19:36 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Perdogg

29 posted on 04/18/2013 9:27:18 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: cradle of freedom
RE :”Leave it up to the Dems to cook up some phoney stats about how internet sales are done overwhelmingly by the “rich”.

Its true if you define ‘the rich’ as those with full time jobs who pay Federal taxes, ~ the 53%

30 posted on 04/18/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
I assume this is because you kept your legal residency as Maryland.

I kept it only long enough to be able to legally establish residence in the eyes of the Army in another state. Only then would they let me change my state of residence

31 posted on 04/18/2013 11:02:45 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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