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Expanded gun background check [Toomey] amendment fails in the Senate
Yahoo ^ | 04/17/13

Posted on 04/17/2013 1:32:17 PM PDT by AtlasStalled

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To: AtlasStalled

Commandante Zero will be intruding on us soon to express his faux disgust, and to bitch and moan, and look like a real tough guy. He may even do the patented Bill Clinton lower lip bite.....


81 posted on 04/17/2013 2:06:58 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Colorado Doug

Yay!!! Now, if we can just regain our rights in Colorado . . .


In case you hadn’t heard, Colorado Doug:

Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America is in Durango today and will speak this evening in support of the recall of Mike McLachlan.


82 posted on 04/17/2013 2:07:12 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Gator113

Yes, since he voted against it as I understand Senate rules..even for amendments.


83 posted on 04/17/2013 2:08:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Cruz Ammendment failed...but never fear...HE will keep plugging away at it. The man is tenacious!


84 posted on 04/17/2013 2:09:21 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: laplata

LoL at DUmmie Colorado legislators. They are now more out on the proverbial limb. ; ^)


85 posted on 04/17/2013 2:10:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Still Thinking; All

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113s649pcs/pdf/BILLS-113s649pcs.pdf

This may have the amendments. This is the base bill.


86 posted on 04/17/2013 2:11:19 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Steel

The Leaky Leahy Amendment(I believe it was his) goes down in defeat too.


87 posted on 04/17/2013 2:12:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Still Thinking

This will let you track the amendments:

SA 716. Mr. ROCKEFELLER (for himself, Mr. COBURN, Mr. JOHANNS, Mr. BLUMENTHAL, Mr. HELLER, and Ms. KLOBUCHAR) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , to ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 717. Mr. BARRASSO submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 718. Mr. COBURN (for himself, Mr. RUBIO, Mr. JOHNSON of Wisconsin, and Mr. ENZI) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 719. Mr. CORNYN (for himself, Mr. VITTER, and Ms. COLLINS) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 720. Mr. BURR (for himself, Mr. WICKER, Mr. INHOFE, Mr. CRAPO, Mr. RISCH, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. MORAN, Mr. THUNE, Mr. ROBERTS, Mr. ENZI, and Mr. BOOZMAN) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 721. Mr. CORNYN submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 722. Mr. RUBIO submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 723. Mr. RUBIO submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 724. Mr. REID (for Mr. LAUTENBERG (for himself, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. COWAN, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. REED, Ms. WARREN, and Mr. BLUMENTHAL)) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by Mr. REID, of NV to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.


88 posted on 04/17/2013 2:12:31 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: corlorde

Thank you. Then I will hold off celebrating for a bit..


89 posted on 04/17/2013 2:12:32 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Still Thinking

Second installment

SA 711. Mrs. FEINSTEIN (for herself, Mr. SCHUMER, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Ms. KLOBUCHAR, Mr. FRANKEN, Mr. BLUMENTHAL, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. ROCKEFELLER, Ms. MIKULSKI, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. REED, Mr. CARPER, Mr. LAUTENBERG, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. CARDIN, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. SCHATZ, Mr. MURPHY, Ms. HIRONO, Ms. WARREN, and Mr. COWAN) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by her to the bill S . 649 , to ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 712. Mrs. FEINSTEIN (for herself, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Mr. MENENDEZ, and Mr. BLUMENTHAL) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by her to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 713. Mr. LEAHY (for himself, Ms. COLLINS, and Mr. KING) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 714. Mr. BLUMENTHAL (for Mr. LAUTENBERG (for himself, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mr. BLUMENTHAL, Mr. MURPHY, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Mr. COWAN, Ms. HIRONO, Mr. KAINE, Mr. ROCKEFELLER, Mr. MERKLEY, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. CARPER, Ms. WARREN, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. DURBIN, Ms. KLOBUCHAR, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. FRANKEN, Mr. CARDIN, Mr. SCHUMER, and Mr. HARKIN)) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by Mr. BLUMENTHAL to the bill S . 649 , supra; which was ordered to lie on the table.

SA 715. Mr. MANCHIN (for himself, Mr. TOOMEY, Mr. KIRK, and Mr. SCHUMER) proposed an amendment to the bill S . 649 , supra.


90 posted on 04/17/2013 2:13:31 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Hardraade
Cool. What will be Zero’s workaround?

He's announced a 5:30 presser in the Rose Garden, presumably to bitch and moan about the evil GOP Senators (forgetting the Dems that voted "no"). Outside chance he'll tip his hand on what he'll do to work around that silly Constitution and laws and stuff.

91 posted on 04/17/2013 2:13:33 PM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Still Thinking
S.649

Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013 - Amends the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (NICS Act), the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (Brady Act), the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, and the federal criminal code to require background checks for all firearm sales, prohibit straw purchases of firearms, and expand the school safety grant program.

Says, in part . . . .

Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013 - Amends the NICS Act to eliminate from the records concerning persons who are prohibited from possessing or receiving a firearm, about which a state must submit estimates to the Attorney General for purposes of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System: (1) a record that identifies a person for whom an indictment has been returned for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year or who is a fugitive from justice and for which a record of final disposition is not available; and (2) a record that identifies a person who is an unlawful user of, or addicted to, a controlled substance. Directs the Attorney General to establish the applicable time period for the occurrence of events which would disqualify a person from possessing a firearm (currently, within the prior 20 years) in pertinent records.

Amends the Brady Act to prohibit any person who does not hold a federal firearms license from transferring a firearm to any other unlicensed person unless a licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer: (1) has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with national instant criminal background check requirements; and (2) upon taking possession, complies with all firearms requirements as if transferring the firearm from the licensee's inventory to the unlicensed transferee. Specifies exceptions, including for: (1) bona fide gifts between immediate family members; (2) a transfer from a decedent's estate; (3) a transfer of possession between unlicensed persons in the transferor's home for less than seven days; and (4) certain temporary transfers without the transfer of title in connection with lawful hunting or sporting purposes at a shooting range, at a shooting competition, or while hunting, fishing, or trapping during hunting season.

Makes it unlawful for any person who lawfully possesses or owns a firearm that has been shipped, transported, or possessed in interstate or foreign commerce to fail to report the theft or loss of the firearm to the Attorney General and the appropriate local authorities within 24 hours of discovery.

92 posted on 04/17/2013 2:14:22 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Still Thinking

Someone help me out here.I understand that if the original bill is amended in any way, another cloture vote is required before the final passage vote. If the original bill is not amended, does the original cloture vote stand and only 51 votes are needed to pass the original Reid bill?


93 posted on 04/17/2013 2:16:21 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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94 posted on 04/17/2013 2:16:56 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AtlasStalled

OUT...FRIGGIN...STANDING!


95 posted on 04/17/2013 2:17:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: AtlasStalled

Naive to think that any bill passed on congress will be executed fully to the letter of the law by any Democrat.

To them, it is only a suggestion.

For that reason, I will never support any of these restraints on our 2nd amendment and I want them to roll these back.

We don’t trust government for good reason, till they pass a law that says these people in government can go to prison for not following the law my trust is zero.


96 posted on 04/17/2013 2:18:01 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Conservative_Rob

OK, I made a quick scan and those were the things I noticed too. So why are we celebrating the defeat of an amendment containing universal background checks (national database) to a bill that already has a national database provision in the base bill? Just because it’s a preview of the likely vote total for the actual bill?


97 posted on 04/17/2013 2:18:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Red Steel

LoL at DUmmie Colorado legislators. They are now more out on the proverbial limb. ; ^)


We’re going to break the limb this particular traitor is sitting on and recall his azz....if the complacent gun owners get off their butts and sign the petition.


98 posted on 04/17/2013 2:19:04 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Confirmed! I was (happily) wrong!

Still, what happens now?


99 posted on 04/17/2013 2:19:13 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: LUV W

100 posted on 04/17/2013 2:19:17 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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