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Boehner: I Don't Need GOP to Pass Gun Law...
breitbart ^ | 4/11/13 | b shapiro

Posted on 04/13/2013 6:34:26 AM PDT by bestintxas

On Thursday, in the midst of ongoing national debate over prospective gun control and comprehensive immigration legislation, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that he didn’t need the approval of a majority of his own party to move forward with legislation. Referring to the so-called Hastert Rule, named after former House Speaker Denny Hastert (R-IL), which dictated that House leadership not bring up any bill for a vote without the support of a majority of the majority party, Boehner said, “Listen: It was never a rule to begin with.”

Then, realizing the gravity of admitting that he could move without a majority of his own party, Boehner added, “And certainly my prerogative – my intention is to always pass bills with strong Republican support.”

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To: bestintxas

Agreed on KBH. Talk about a waste of skin!

At least now with Cruz, we have a benchmark to work with. We got a KEEPER, this time!

:-)


51 posted on 04/13/2013 7:39:15 AM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: cuban leaf; rarestia
Something very insidious is going on in DC right now, folks. People who swore and oath to uphold and defend our Constitution are blatantly and outright abrogating their responsibilities to do so.

Agree. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Something evil has enticed our *representatives* - even some who were once rock solid conservatives. They've become drunk with (our) money and power.

FWIW, I believe that both parties were in on Obama stealing the last election. And I believe it is because they pretty much knew that if Obama lost our cities would burn, possibly followed by anarchical civil war. They whole country was like an open gas can and we were playing with matches.

Agree about both parties being in on 0 stealing the election. Disagree with if 0 lost our cities would burn down. That was a scare tactic. I think the workers and producers being oppressed by this regime far outnumber the takers. The takers would've realized that very fast, once they started any crapola.

52 posted on 04/13/2013 7:45:06 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Howie66

Question is...how do we clone Cruz to primary Corny?


53 posted on 04/13/2013 7:46:07 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: X-spurt

I am NOT talking about Ohio. I’m talking about the Tea Party caucus revolting against his speakership. Sheesh.


54 posted on 04/13/2013 7:48:10 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: CityCenter

Remember folks, the war of Independence was fought by the 30 percent that wanted freedom. The other 2/3 either didn’t care or was against it.

It’s no different today. Your federal officials are scared the citizens are gonna rise up and limit their power. Rinos and Demonrats are going to do everything at their disposal to quell that. It’s not about Conservative or liberal. It’s all about control. Total control.

Once they attempt to take away the means they will then move to conviscate individual savings...for the good of the state. Then everyone is fependent on them.


55 posted on 04/13/2013 7:48:48 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: basil
He has that vaguely dopey look so often seen in a chronic drunk. I think he's a committed tippler who's pissed away a few billion too many brain cells.

Effing A-hole.

;-\

56 posted on 04/13/2013 7:49:56 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: bestintxas
The House crier is hellbent on ticking off the Conservatives in his caucus, one way or the other.

Recent Flashback:

Boehner full of regret over 'cliff' moves

"“You have no idea the suspicions and the undercurrents that it caused, frankly, a lot of my members,” Boehner said of his negotiations with Obama. “It really has, in fact, caused somewhat of a breach that I’ve been in the middle of trying to repair.”"

57 posted on 04/13/2013 7:51:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: basil

” House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that he didn’t need the approval of a majority of his own party “

I think that was after a 3 martooni lunch. He seems to have come more to his senses as of yesterday.


58 posted on 04/13/2013 7:51:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bert

No, the salvation of America is for us to somehow pay back in full our Karma Police debt for slavery, instead of being continually blackmailed without end (as we now are).

Am no liker of the lack of culture many in the AA community practice, but as an American culture, we could not deny other people’s freedom without some future greater cost.


59 posted on 04/13/2013 7:52:07 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: SCHROLL

Doesn’t work. did that for years and they kept calling. So, I simply don’t pick up any identified calls from them. I also delete the emails.


60 posted on 04/13/2013 7:57:13 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Howie66
I got a fundraising call from the Reps asking for money for Doc Hastings, my district congressman. The lady said Doc was sort of against gun control and send them big bucks to stop Obama. She was very persistent, almost obnoxious. I said no and hung up. She did not mention that Doc supported TARP and has voted three times to keep funding Obamacare. After reflection, if the Reps call again, my position is that I will not support the Reps, as long as Mr Boehner is the Speaker. Mr. Boehner is the problem and the issue, and he should be made the poster wimp for weak, compromised Republican Party failures. Only a liberal Democrat could support the Mainstream GOP.
TWB
61 posted on 04/13/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: bestintxas

Republicans.

God help us.


62 posted on 04/13/2013 7:58:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Houghton M.

You’re correct Houghton M. Boehner exists only because Michelle Bachmann and the others in the Tea Party caucus refuse to draw a line in the sand. They have more clout than they realize, but too many of them are trying to play both sides of the fence: stick to conservative principles while appeasing the leadership in hope of a future committee or leadership position. The Tea Party caucus lost credibility when it refused to stand up the GOP-e in January when it expelled several conservative representatives from committee positions. To me, Bachmann is the biggest disappointment. She could have used the profile she gained during the Presidential primaries to take a true leadership stance in the GOP caucus to oppose Boehner’s cowardice, but she has been very muted.


63 posted on 04/13/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Houghton M.

OK, tell us how many Standing Speakers have been turned out of the Speakership? If a greater majority of CONSERVATIVES get elected in 2014, there could be an effective challenge to Boehner.

Regrettably the Tea Party was taken over or claimed by kooks and as a result now has minimal tangible support like when it started.


64 posted on 04/13/2013 8:07:35 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: X-spurt

It can be argued that slavery was like the import of zebra mussels or the chestnut fungus, a biological disaster in the making.

The making is being felt now.


65 posted on 04/13/2013 8:11:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: bestintxas

The GOP is up against a well organized coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays and other assorted perverts, baby killers (abortionists), Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the “forever needy,” the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other “fellow travelers” within the Democrat Party that adds up to a majority of the American population, and all the GOP seems to want to do is bicker among themselves.


66 posted on 04/13/2013 8:15:06 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: bestintxas
This 2nd Amendment infringement movement sure is revealing who the traitors are in the GOP.
67 posted on 04/13/2013 8:16:42 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: bert

For sure.

How to Pay In Full, is my question. Maybe death of the culture that participated is the only way.

Hopefully, true democracy or rather our good version Representative Republic 2.0 will make good use to avoid the faults that are bringing down Representative Republic 1.0.


68 posted on 04/13/2013 8:25:33 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: bestintxas

We sure as hell don’t need anymore gun laws. What we do need is for Democrats to get a handle on their constituency and keep them from robbing and murdering law-abiding citizens.


69 posted on 04/13/2013 8:34:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: rarestia
Something very insidious is going on in DC right now, folks. People who swore and oath to uphold and defend our Constitution are blatantly and outright abrogating their responsibilities to do so.

I think we are seeing the fruits of oppositional research. The turncoat Republicans' skeletons have been unearthed and are being used against them.

70 posted on 04/13/2013 8:40:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: bestintxas

He heard from me. I regret my vote for him already.


71 posted on 04/13/2013 8:51:40 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Gaffer

It would not surprise me if Boehner makes some kind a deal with Democrats to exit his post in lavish remuneration of the undisclosed kind.
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He will get the job as BO’s caddy and food taster and also fill in as joebamas straight man...(that is straight as in old time Comedians relied on a straight (sexual preference aside) man to be successful).)


72 posted on 04/13/2013 8:58:06 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: bestintxas

Someone has something on him.


73 posted on 04/13/2013 9:01:47 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Robert Duvall)
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To: bestintxas
"Why does any group select a leader who openly and blantantly defy the wishes of the group he supposesly represents?"

Because the "group" gets most of its money from constituents who are in favor of gun control (peasant control). The "group" wants the votes from the rabble, but the "group" also wants the big money from the political/regulator class very much. Don't be afraid to finally start voting out incumbents one term after another.


74 posted on 04/13/2013 9:06:50 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: bestintxas

Read the following. See what was done, and to whom. Then you’ll know in advance, what compromises they’re going to make and whose Second Amendment right will be violated nationwide (trivial records to NICS database for arbitrary discretion, middle and upper-middle class, etc.). Or don’t, and see the consequences up close before long.

A Form of Gun Confiscation Has Reportedly Begun in New York State
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006033/posts


75 posted on 04/13/2013 9:15:26 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Houghton M.

“Basically, it’s the Third Party nuke option and it’s time to deploy it. Boner’s had way too many chances to shape up.”

It is time for a third party. If there is a 2016 election Hillary Clinton will be elected. Women will turn out in record numbers to elect the first female president and the rest of the Dem base will be united behind her. Anyone who believe Rubio, the Cuban American, at the head of the Republican ticket will draw the primarily Mexican American Hispanic vote from the Republican Party is kidding themselves. In any even it looks like Jeb Bush is preparing (like Dole, McCain, and Romney) to take the fall for the party in 2016 in that the establishment knows no one can beat Hillary. I’m expecting them to run Jeb at the top of the ticket and Rubio as VP. This sets up Rubio for 2020.

Of course the RINO establishment will expect the conservative base to turn out for the Congressional elections and will once again tell us they are better than the alternative. However, since 2010 they’ve done a good job of proving they are not better than the alternative. Instead they’ve shown they are willing collaborators with the Dems.

The only choice for Conservatives is to form a new party, thereby splitting the Republican Party. This likely means Democrats in control of both Congress and the White House in 2014 and 2016. However, if the nation is going to have a chance to pull out of the down spiral, the majority of the people have to hold the Democrats accountable for the condition of the country. Due to the ineptness of Boehner, McConnell, Romney, Rove and the rest of the establishment, Obama, the media and the Dems have gotten away with blaming the economy and the malaise on the Republicans who are actually compromising at every turn.

Splitting the Republican Party may actually turn out to be a better thing than the current situation. Lets say in 2014 the Dems capture 49% of the vote in the House, the traditional Republicans capture 35% and the new conservative party captures 16%. Pelosi becomes Speaker by getting 3 or 4 RINOs to vote with the Dems. Now the Dems are accountable but Pelosi will have to struggle to put together coalitions with either the Republicans or Conservatives to secure majority votes. If a number of traditional Republicans go all in to help Pelosi, they’ll face strong opposition in 2016 from a real Conservative candidate.

Look at history. The Republican Party went from newly organized to winning the White House in less than a decade. In a decade a new Conservative Party can be built and offer a real alternative to Democrat socialism. The current Republican Party will never offer that alternative and the Bush/Romney/Rove power structure will not cede power to conservatives internally. The only hope now is for a third party.


76 posted on 04/13/2013 9:15:37 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: bestintxas

Looking more and more like caught in bed with a little boy.


77 posted on 04/13/2013 9:17:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Houghton M.

When the only difference between Boehner and Pelosi is the speed getting to the end result of the erosion of my rights and the country’s sovereignty why let the RINO Boehner stay in charge?


78 posted on 04/13/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: MHGinTN
Looking more and more like caught in bed with a little boy.

I'm thinking Boehner was caught in bed with SC's John Roberts.

79 posted on 04/13/2013 10:16:27 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: JohnG45

Maybe Roberts and Boehner were caught in Pansey Graham’s bed!


80 posted on 04/13/2013 10:18:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Maybe Roberts and Boehner were caught in Pansey Graham’s bed!

Yeah, with John McCain hiding in the closet peering through a slightly ajar door.

81 posted on 04/13/2013 10:22:37 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: rarestia
(Socialists Hardcore Marxists, if we’re being honest)

There, fixed!

Regards,
GtG

82 posted on 04/13/2013 11:26:11 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: bestintxas

Boehner needs to sober up


83 posted on 04/13/2013 11:38:04 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: rarestia

” I’m personally beginning to wonder if the political class, those with the money and the power to campaign and make it into DC, were on the take from the beginning, since before the elections, and they knew once they were in, and once they could safely take off their masks, they become the ghouls they truly are.”

I no longer wonder. They sold us out.


84 posted on 04/13/2013 12:22:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Travis McGee

They got together on a “booze boat”, and sold us out.


85 posted on 04/13/2013 12:25:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Travis McGee
Sold out by traitors for a “boat ride”, at least it was a nice boat, hope they had fun...........Dirty, stinking, rotten bastards!
86 posted on 04/13/2013 12:34:37 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Bratch

alternatively, Boehner’s visited one DC honeypot too many...


87 posted on 04/13/2013 1:36:51 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I don't care what laws they pass in DC. I won't comply with unconstitutional or stupid laws.

With you on that. As soon as the Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare and the dissent opinion was written by the same judge that wrote the approval opinion, all US law became null and void.

In fact right now DC is so corrupt, we cannot even legally give money to DC. Since Obama and Hillary have admitted to supplying material and money to Al Qeada in Syria and Iraq, it is now illegal to give money to DC. You would be guilty of giving money to an organization that supports terrorism with money and material.

That is how messed up it is right now. Reset button time.

88 posted on 04/13/2013 2:28:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: bestintxas
FU Bonehaed.
89 posted on 04/13/2013 2:47:07 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama murdered the SEALs.They "were hung out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls,...")
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To: Jane Long

The takers are not that smart. If obama had lost, they would have accepted that it was “the man” taking their guy out.

You think the LA riots after the King verdict were bad, or Chicago in ‘68? This would have been much worse. IMO


90 posted on 04/15/2013 7:56:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
Ah...you mention the LA riots after the King verdict. This illustrates my point...

Remember the armed Korean shopkeepers and storeowners defending their property from throngs of looters?? The rioters backed off, immediately, when these shopkeepers *defended* their property.

Imagine if NJ residents could've defended themselves and their property against the Sandy looters in the same fashion.

91 posted on 04/15/2013 8:48:43 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Jane Long

Yes. Lots of wild cards here. But the more empowered the takers feel, th more it will take to get them to back off. And with the fervor over guns and ammo, and the incompetency of obama, those on the right are feeling pretty empowered. It *could* have gotten really bad. We’ll never know, though.


92 posted on 04/15/2013 9:32:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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