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Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill
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Posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

2 minutes ago Senate overcomes filibuster, votes to open debate on gun bill Posted by CNN's Tom Cohen

Washington (CNN) - The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to overcome a Republican-led filibuster against tougher gun laws, clearing the way for a major congressional debate on a package of proposals sought by President Barack Obama in the aftermath of the Connecticut school massacre.

The procedural vote followed a breakthrough by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, and Pat Toomey, R-Pennsylvania,

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0pansification; airballairhead; banglist; cokeheadinchief; guncontrol; guncontroldebate; rkba; secondamendment
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To: The Antiyuppie
I have written before that the name of any recent government bill is a lie and accomplishes the exact opposite of what is stated. Check out the name of this bill.

Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013. yikes.

51 posted on 04/11/2013 9:46:09 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

How many of those 30 Reps are RINOs? How many can be turned with the right amount of flattery and bribery for their districts? How many of them are from blue-state liberal gun-grabbing areas?

You may be right, I’m not disputing that. I’m simply saying that this illegal infringement on the right to keep and bear arms (see tagline) should never have gotten to this point. And if one firewall—40 Republicans in the Senate—fails, there’s nothing to stop the others—the House and ultimately the Supreme Court—from failing too. You can’t rely on them simply because of the “R” after their name. Today proved that.

}:-)4


52 posted on 04/11/2013 9:47:39 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: cotton1706; CityCenter; JohnBrowdie
Plus this is going nowhere in the House.

"You'd like to THINK that, wouldn't you?"

53 posted on 04/11/2013 9:49:51 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: CityCenter

“It isn’t really the worst thing that could happen. Now they all have to go on the record and we get our list of who to vote out of office in 2014. Plus this is going nowhere in the House.”

Sounds a lot like what I kept hearing on ObamaCare. You assume a whole lot.


54 posted on 04/11/2013 9:50:37 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Mom MD; driftdiver

Exactly, to both of you.


55 posted on 04/11/2013 9:51:15 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Moose4
I’m simply saying that this illegal infringement on the right to keep and bear arms

They have no right to vote on the altering the Second Amendment..... period!

56 posted on 04/11/2013 9:55:59 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: JohnBrowdie
"it doesn’t matter what the senate does. this is DOA in the house."

Just like 0bamacare?

57 posted on 04/11/2013 9:57:06 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: JohnBrowdie
How many 'GOP' house members will be invited to booze it up aboard the Manchin yacht?

Care for another double of our top shelf whiskey, Mr. RINO? Would you like your melted butter warmed up, Mrs. RINO? It will make your lobster taste so much better and that 'hard' gun ban vote so much easier to cast.

58 posted on 04/11/2013 9:57:18 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And both of Georgia’s boys... Without us watching/emailing/calling them on every @*+^ issue, neither one can be trusted for a second - and even with all of that, they will STILL do what serves them best at every opportunity.

Dear Lord, give us strength.
Tatt


59 posted on 04/11/2013 9:58:25 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: jersey117
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
60 posted on 04/11/2013 9:58:57 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: JPG

How many 'GOP' house members will be invited to booze it up aboard the Manchin yacht?

61 posted on 04/11/2013 10:01:28 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Just like 0bamacare?

you should recall that ReBamaLosi had a MASSIVE majority in the house when obamacare passed. in fact, it passed the house BEFORE they snuck it through the senate.

62 posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:36 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Old Sarge

It depends. They might be busy that evening partying at the Congressional Country Club.


63 posted on 04/11/2013 10:03:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (ll)
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To: cotton1706

Lamar needs to be put out to pasture. Why is noone challenging him?


64 posted on 04/11/2013 10:04:42 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Old Sarge
"You'd like to THINK that, wouldn't you?"

no. I would actually "like to think" that your comment added value to the discussion. but I would be wrong.

65 posted on 04/11/2013 10:06:50 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: hal ogen
Country club, hell, why have a building when they have THIS:

"BUCCANEERS OF THE BELTWAY: CURSE OF THE BLACK TIE"

66 posted on 04/11/2013 10:07:25 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Noamie

Nancy Pelosi no longer runs the House.


67 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:02 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

No more than your quaint notion that you actually have a voice in government.


68 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:17 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Not one Repulbican voted for Obama care. Whatever you think about the House, that comment is a red herring.


69 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:59 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Old Sarge
The real story http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006640/posts Book it...
70 posted on 04/11/2013 10:11:11 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: CityCenter; Noamie
“It isn’t really the worst thing that could happen. Now they all have to go on the record and we get our list of who to vote out of office in 2014. Plus this is going nowhere in the House.”

Sounds a lot like what I kept hearing on ObamaCare. You assume a whole lot.

Nancy Pelosi no longer runs the House.

No, but her crybaby twin brother does.

Wash, rinse and repeat :(

71 posted on 04/11/2013 10:11:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: CityCenter

Nancy Pelosi no longer runs the House.

Fooled me, There isn’t a pair of balls near as big as hers on the Republican side.


72 posted on 04/11/2013 10:13:25 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: CityCenter
Plus this is going nowhere in the House.

The whole point of this is to get house members on record. The Dem consultants want it. I won't get into a discussion of whether or not it will help or hurt some or all of them, that's a discussion we have had all over FR for years. I'm just pointing out that the Democrats believe it will help them with liberal-women turnout in contested house races.

73 posted on 04/11/2013 10:16:22 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
This is DOA in the house.

With John Bonehead and Eric Cancer in charge, one can't be so sure.

74 posted on 04/11/2013 10:17:35 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Frank Sheed

Good link, thanks!


75 posted on 04/11/2013 10:20:05 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: cotton1706

The usual cast of traitorous characters.


76 posted on 04/11/2013 10:24:48 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I’m sure they believe that, but the election os way too far on the future at this point to know what affect this will have.


77 posted on 04/11/2013 10:36:56 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: wardaddy

I have been advocating the repeal of the 17th amendment for years.


78 posted on 04/11/2013 10:46:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: cotton1706

What is a “moderate,” except a liberal who is ashamed of it?


79 posted on 04/11/2013 10:52:47 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Mom MD
Going nowhere in the house... Just like Obama care?

I understand the peril. But also understand that CommieCare was passed with Demonic-rat majorities in BOTH chambers.

This will be a lot harder to pass in the House, as the Senate's original version - which will be far, far radically left just to add wiggle room. What I fear is that the radical Senate bill will be tweaked by house RINOS in partnership with radical libs to a just as unconstitutional form that the Senate will reluctantly approve. After what the Senate churns out, the tweaked House version will look almost "conservative" in comparison.

80 posted on 04/11/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If the Republcans in Congress had just half the discipline the Democrats have on major issues...


81 posted on 04/11/2013 11:06:15 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I have been advocating the repeal of the 17th amendment for years.

Never gonna happen with all of the low information voters out there...

Best we can hope for is an Amendment that would allow state legislatures to impeach the federal senators by a majority vote and appoint a replacement for the remainder of their term...


82 posted on 04/11/2013 11:09:59 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: fwdude

However you want to describe it, a moderate republican is an extra democrat. They all need to be removed.


83 posted on 04/11/2013 11:20:05 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: JohnBrowdie
this is DOA in the house.

It had better be DOA in the house!

84 posted on 04/11/2013 11:29:40 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: Sub-Driver

You can read the S.649 bill here.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c113:1:./temp/~c113ooM7eT:e18015:


85 posted on 04/11/2013 11:47:40 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
You can read the S.649 bill here.

A better link

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:S.649:

86 posted on 04/11/2013 12:10:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/2013/04/11/the-16-republicans-who-voted-with-feinstein-schumer-and-reid-to-advance-obamas-gun-control-bill/


87 posted on 04/11/2013 12:21:06 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. Penance.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Alexander UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2014
Ayotte
Burr
Chambliss UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2014
Coburn
Collins UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2014
Corker UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2014
Flake
Graham UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2014
Hoeven
Isakson
Kirk
McCain
Toomey
Wicker


88 posted on 04/11/2013 12:23:18 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Old Sarge

A Princess Bride quote and pic is always in order as far as I’m concerned.


89 posted on 04/11/2013 12:23:35 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Sub-Driver
I am shocked about the Georgian senators.

Anyone that ties themselves to McCain, we always seem to get betrayed, on the most serious issues. The NRA supported Reid over Sharon. I still don't like that. NRA has got to become more aggressive with ads and even running NRA members as candidates to replace these rinos. Stack the deck, like the libs do, with good people who respect the constitution..

90 posted on 04/11/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Red Steel
The bill will accomplish nothing.

The idea that "if it prevents one death, it's worth it"..is absurd.

About as effective as outlawing lightening.

91 posted on 04/11/2013 12:47:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Lucky9teen

You’re right about Alexander being up in 2014. I think Corker will be up again in 2018.

If a Tea Party candidate runs against Alexander and beats him, it will make my election watching primary night.


92 posted on 04/11/2013 12:48:52 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t see the purpose. This isn’t good for Democrats or for liberty. Somethings going to get through.


93 posted on 04/11/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Figures.


94 posted on 04/11/2013 1:02:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: cotton1706

I did some work on Alexander’s very first campaign for Governor way back when. Didn’t take me long to realize the error of my ways. At time I was an LEO. He had no use for us. Wanted us to stay out of his way and not be seen. We were two levels below Earth worms.


95 posted on 04/11/2013 1:26:09 PM PDT by animal172
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To: animal172

What’s an LEO?


96 posted on 04/11/2013 1:39:02 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Sub-Driver

The entire GOPe is against us.

I hope people can see that now


97 posted on 04/11/2013 1:56:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A much, much, much shorter list to see who didn’t sell us out


98 posted on 04/11/2013 1:57:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cotton1706

LEO= Law Enforcement Officer


99 posted on 04/11/2013 2:09:47 PM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: corlorde

Oh. Gotcha!


100 posted on 04/11/2013 2:33:12 PM PDT by cotton1706
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