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Bipartisan deal reached on gun background checks
Washington Post ^ | 04/10/2013 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 04/10/2013 7:39:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A bipartisan group of senators has struck a deal to expand gun background checks to all commercial sales — whether at gun shows, via the Internet or in any circumstance involving paid advertising, according to Senate aides familiar with the talks.

The proposed agreement would be more stringent than current law, which requires checks only when purchases are made through a licensed dealer, but less than originally sought by President Obama and congressional Democrats, who were seeking to expand background checks to nearly every kind of sale.

The agreement should secure enough bipartisan support for the Senate to proceed to debate on an overarching bill that would expand background checks, make gun trafficking a federal crime for the first time and bolster federal funding for school security plans. Senate Democratic leaders have said they will permit senators of both parties to introduce amendments to the measure.

The deal on background checks was struck by Sens. Joe Manchin III (D-W. Va.), Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Patrick Toomey (R-Pa.), who will introduce the proposal as an amendment to the current gun bill under consideration in the Senate, aides said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Illinois; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: backgroundchecks; banglist; chuckschumer; guncontrol; illinois; joemanchin; markkirk; newyork; pa; pattoomey; pennsylvania; rkba; secondamendment; treason; westvirginia; wv
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To: SeekAndFind
Once they take the Second Amendment, they can take anything they want.
41 posted on 04/10/2013 8:02:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: qaz123
Hoping that 2014 will usher in some new blood.

I wouldn't count on it. The rats have become quite adept at stealing elections AND getting away with it.

42 posted on 04/10/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: qaz123
As you stated, you CANNOT buy a firearm from a legit FFL, without the checks. If an FFL sells you a gun without one, then there are laws already on the books that deal with that.

And of course, only a licensed FFL can legally make a "commercial" sale.

So there is definately some sort of Obama style Double-Speak involved here.

They will probably have to "pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy".


43 posted on 04/10/2013 8:06:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: SeekAndFind

18 USC § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242


44 posted on 04/10/2013 8:06:31 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

45 posted on 04/10/2013 8:06:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jersey117
perhaps the media will be given a pass when confiscation begins ... then the media will be disarmed at a later time. Have fun media, you’all put zer0 in office. Enjoy your reeducation. oh I see, you think you’all are already reeducated. LOL.
46 posted on 04/10/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Iron Munro

On a quick glance, it appears that the ‘Rats just wanted to pass ANYTHING as a face-saving measure. Even something rather marginal and meaningless.

“See, we tightened up background checks!”


47 posted on 04/10/2013 8:08:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mushroom Gravy

Just how, and where, can you buy a gun over the internet? You can’t.


48 posted on 04/10/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Red Badger; BarnacleCenturion; sport

Liberal Dems will not support this Bill without amendments. Once amendments are passed, it will die.


49 posted on 04/10/2013 8:09:07 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: backwoods-engineer
REJECT THIS!

How bout IGNORE IT. They can make all the phony laws they want. Then try to enforce them!

The war has started and they are the enemy.

50 posted on 04/10/2013 8:11:31 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bi partisan. It sounds so friendly.


51 posted on 04/10/2013 8:11:32 AM PDT by lurk
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To: carriage_hill

Toomey has an “A” rating from the NRA?

Bullsh_t!


52 posted on 04/10/2013 8:14:06 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: SeekAndFind
who will introduce the proposal as an amendment to the current gun bill under consideration in the Senate

Is there a "bill" (you know, a written document available for public inspection) which is "under consideration" (you know, in the hopper, assigned to a committee, debated, passed to the floor with majority and minority reports) in the Senate?

I don't actually think there is.

53 posted on 04/10/2013 8:16:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: pabianice
Just how, and where, can you buy a gun over the internet? You can’t.

Really?

Just one of many.

Gunbroker.com

54 posted on 04/10/2013 8:18:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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This thread is dedicated to our lame-stream drive bys. I would play a song but this is okay too. Tell Me Sweet Little Lies is for you suckers in the lame-stream.
55 posted on 04/10/2013 8:19:30 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: unixfox

No, you can’t buy a gun over the internet. You can LOOK at guns for sale, but it still has to be shipped to an FFL holder.


56 posted on 04/10/2013 8:21:38 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: SeekAndFind

The debate in Congress about guns is always about which rights do I no longer need.
Not how to protect my rights.

Unless I’m a f*g, an illegal alien or I want an abortion.
Then they’ll invent rights for me that don’t exist.


57 posted on 04/10/2013 8:22:01 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Iron Munro

All commercial sales already require a background check so, as presented here, this bill would change nothing. And we know that’s not going to happen.

One thousand D I N G S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Struck me precisely the same. This background check BEE ESS is a ruse for something else. One more example of corralling the law abiding and doing nothing to inhibit criminals, and Ayn had plenty to say on that subject as well.


58 posted on 04/10/2013 8:23:34 AM PDT by wita
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To: Travis McGee
On a quick glance, it appears that the ‘Rats just wanted to pass ANYTHING as a face-saving measure. Even something rather marginal and meaningless.

Agree.

Anything that allows O'Bozo to claim a win.


59 posted on 04/10/2013 8:23:38 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: pabianice
Just how, and where, can you buy a gun over the internet? You can’t.

Sure you can.

At auction sites for one example - places like Gun Broker and Guns America
But you still have to ship to and from an FFL.

Another example is CMP.
And they ship direct to the purchaser - no FFL intermediary required.


60 posted on 04/10/2013 8:29:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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