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Fox Television Threatens to Go Off the Air
Breitbart News ^ | 4-9-2013 | John Nolte

Posted on 04/09/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by servo1969

After winning a major court battle last week, Aereo has Fox Television so freaked the network is considering becoming a cable channel, which would mean yanking their broadcast from the public airwaves:

At the National Association of Broadcasters’ annual trade show on Monday, Carey, the News Corp. president, said, “We will continue to aggressively pursue our rights in the courts, as well as pursue all relevant political avenues, and we believe we will prevail.”

Carey added: “One option could be converting the Fox broadcast network to a pay channel, which we would do in collaboration with both our content partners and affiliates.”

That might seem like a counter-intuitive move if you are still under the naïve belief television revenue is all about eyeballs. But that is simply not the case anymore. Television networks and those who own them (like News Corp.) make a fortune from cable television. That is the golden goose these days, not ratings.

Let me explain:

Right now, you and I pay outrageously expensive monthly cable bills because we are forced to pay for dozens of channels we never watch. Even if you never watch MSNBC, you are still subsidizing Rachel Maddow and every other channel in your cable package because most every network in your cable package receives a monthly fee for every customer forced into a cable package that includes them.

How do you think all these lousy networks manage to stay alive? Trust me, MSNBC is not making a whole lot of money from advertisers with fewer than a million viewers. What keeps junk like Oprah and MSNBC afloat is the monthly fee we involuntarily pay when we are forced to purchase packages that include 200 channels even though all we really want is Fox News and Turner Classic Movies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aereo; broadcast; cable; fox; streaming

1 posted on 04/09/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
Trust me, MSNBC is not making a whole lot of money from advertisers with fewer than a million viewers. What keeps junk like Oprah and MSNBC afloat is the monthly fee we involuntarily pay when we are forced to purchase packages that include 200 channels even though all we really want is Fox News and Turner Classic Movies.

I would LOVE to be able to cherry pick my stations. Where is the freedom in not being able to do so? :)

2 posted on 04/09/2013 4:13:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: servo1969
I just told my Turner Cable operators the same thing.

They began charging extra for the 10 Encore Movie stations since January but give me at least 20 station in Spanish, for no extra charge.

I informed them that no one in my household speaks fluent Spanish, nor we desire the 20 odd shopping channels, MTV no interest so take them all and give us FNC, local stations for what little news, weather and sports and movies.

3 posted on 04/09/2013 4:23:04 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: servo1969

The provider that allows ala carte selection will make a mint!


4 posted on 04/09/2013 4:28:29 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: servo1969
It will not be good if it's a fee in which will be divided for each network to benefit from. We keep them going by paying dues/fees. I don't want to help Msnbc. Looks like this is what is coming at us. Fees (when would those fees ever stop increasing as well). There would only be fees to collect, no ratings impact..they put on any garbage they want/figure turn up the volume for their cause sorta speak..then after that the feds go after the internet because most of us will go there for movies and shows that we want to see.
5 posted on 04/09/2013 4:29:00 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: SoFloFreeper

A la carte will be the future model and it’s already happening via the Internet.

Let’s set up a laughing party and celebrate all the out of work liberals.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 4:31:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Can they least take Glee off the air?


7 posted on 04/09/2013 4:34:46 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: SoFloFreeper

TCM Rocks.

I’d like to add Spike Powerblock & Military Channel


8 posted on 04/09/2013 4:36:08 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: cable
Right now, you and I pay outrageously expensive monthly cable bills because we are forced...

Hold it right there...

YOU might, but I have Netflix for $8 a month. From the tons of movies and TV shows there, I can watch whatever I want, whenever I want.

SKA-REW cable.

9 posted on 04/09/2013 4:37:52 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: heye2monn

What... are you kidding? They go the pay channel way and they’ll show gays copulating... real or faked.

We’ve already been covered in the grease from the slippery slope.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 4:38:50 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: servo1969

We happily cut our cable today. Our dilemma has been over college football. So after all calculations, we are saving about $85/month by cutting the cable. Hubby figures that we can always add the most basic package with ESPN in the Fall which will cost us about $40/month until the end of football season. We have xbox Live membership which we pay for via gift card purchased at the grocery store. By purchasing the gift card at the grocery, we earn Gas Rewards points. I haven’t paid attention to it, but I am wondering if Netflix has gift cards available at the grocery. That will multiply gas rewards as well.

I seldom watch tv. What tv I do watch is available on the internet. Our teenagers watch Psych and a few other shows via Netflix. Our younger children watch My Little Pony (oh it is so nauseating!) and a few other shows that our older children find for them. We have one sports nut son who will not be happy with his sports viewing options, but he will live. We will make sure he has summer work that will keep him occupied.


11 posted on 04/09/2013 4:38:53 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Erik Latranyi

DirecTV USED TO do a very bastardized version of a la carte TV. However, they made it so that the channel bundles were so ridiculously cheap compared to individual channels, that you really had no choice but to buy the bundles or fork over the same amount for a single channel.

Trust me, they CAN do a la carte, but most providers don’t want to knowing full well that a majority of subscribers would pick from a small subset of channels. In addition, the liberal media would be in an absolute tizzy when they realized that no one was watching them and everyone was watching FNC, History, TCM, A&E, TBS, USA, TNT, etc.

And don’t forget PBS. Do you HONESTLY believe people would voluntarily pick to have PBS in their lineup?


12 posted on 04/09/2013 4:41:28 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: heye2monn

Wowsers. I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was as if they tried to squeeze in as much gayness as humanly possible.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 4:42:47 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: servo1969

Cut the cable, Roku with a huluplus account works great.


14 posted on 04/09/2013 4:47:50 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: rarestia

Sounds like we need to take a page from the liberal handbook and get Congress to force ala carte!


15 posted on 04/09/2013 4:48:17 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yep, screw cable. Dump triple play for net only, get a VoIP box and Netflix, maybe an antenna, and cut %70 off your bill.
Anyone recall dear John McCain’s grandstanding to control cable TV prices many moons ago?


16 posted on 04/09/2013 5:39:22 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: polymuser

I thought I was a relic.
I still have an antenna on the roof.
It’s all free.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 5:47:10 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Erik Latranyi

Ala Cart has my business.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 6:08:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: servo1969

I tried cutting off cable for a few months, but it did not work. Our internet is not robust enough, Hulu Plus selection was limited. You can’t get Discovery Channel anywhere except by buying the DVDs. Plus the DVR functionality was missed.

Much of the expense on cable goes to ESPN. This is lost on me but I suppose there are ESPN fans who never watch FNC-History-Discovery-AMC etc.

By the way, if you disconnect again; they will ban you for a year. This prevents seasonal connections.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 6:25:32 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: swamprebel
Roku with a huluplus account works great.

All I want is Speed, ESPN and ESPN2, and NBCSports

Can that work?

20 posted on 04/09/2013 6:29:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Bob Mc

That roof antenna is nothing to sneeze at these days. I was surprised to find out you can get a lot of basic cable channels for free now.


21 posted on 04/09/2013 6:40:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: heye2monn

Nope. How else would they get the kids to sex?


22 posted on 04/09/2013 6:44:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I would LOVE to be able to cherry pick my stations. Where is the freedom in not being able to do so? :)

IIRC, "a la carte" cable programming would require congressional deregulation of the FCC. There are also powerful lobbying interests for the telecom industry that are very against it, so they have plenty of congresscritters bought and paid for to keep it from happening.

23 posted on 04/09/2013 6:44:38 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: petitfour

Or you can get access to live streaming games online. I am considering the same thing... every day i get a bit closer.

NCAA had the tournament games streaming live, free, this year.


24 posted on 04/09/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
YOU might, but I have Netflix for $8 a month. From the tons of movies and TV shows there, I can watch whatever I want, whenever I want.

I cut back cable a couple years ago. Have an Apple TV puck and Roku puck. Netflix is awesome. There are other excellent sources, like Hulu. And Crackle, which is free. And you can spend thousands of hours on YouTube (lots of great movies, documentaries, and how-to videos). Broadcast TV sucks. Cable packages are expensive and limiting. The Internet and streaming services are great and inexpensive.

25 posted on 04/09/2013 6:47:11 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Future Snake Eater

“IIRC, “a la carte” cable programming would require congressional deregulation of the FCC. “

Common misconception. Cable operators are perfectly free to offer a la carte services at any time — although they want everyone to blame Congress and the FCC.

Cable operators don’t want a la carte — they can charge more for more channels.

It would take FCC regs or Congressional action to force it.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 7:15:57 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks servo1969.
Carey, the News Corp. president... added: “One option could be converting the Fox broadcast network to a pay channel, which we would do in collaboration with both our content partners and affiliates.” ...Television networks and those who own them (like News Corp.) make a fortune from cable television... Right now, you and I pay outrageously expensive monthly cable bills because we are forced to pay for dozens of channels we never watch. Even if you never watch MSNBC, you are still subsidizing Rachel Maddow and every other channel in your cable package because most every network in your cable package receives a monthly fee for every customer forced into a cable package that includes them. How do you think all these lousy networks manage to stay alive? Trust me, MSNBC is not making a whole lot of money from advertisers with fewer than a million viewers. What keeps junk like Oprah and MSNBC afloat is the monthly fee we involuntarily pay when we are forced to purchase packages that include 200 channels even though all we really want is Fox News and Turner Classic Movies.
Pay TV should be (and should have been) a la carte, always, with a basic fee to pay for the bandwidth delivery. But first, NPR and PBS delenda est!


27 posted on 04/09/2013 7:23:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: servo1969

The fees the cable companies pay for programming are based on the number of customers reached. The broader the carriage the lowers the cost to the company.

If they went a la carte you would have about six channels people would be willing to pay for...and you’d pay about the same. Don’t forget you are paying for the plant as well. And that ain’t cheap to construct and maintain.


28 posted on 04/09/2013 7:25:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Vermont Lt

I think we’re headed to ala carte service. Remains to be seen what form.

Netflix, amazon, huku and others are offering a wide variety. Netflix will be showing 15 new episodes of Arrested Development.

We have everything on DirecTv, but could do without most of it.

Even HBO and others offer episodes on line. Perhaps the cost will someday be less than a monthly subscription to 5-10 different HBO channels. Most just repeating their first run programs.

I look forward to first run movies. Give it to me for less than two movie channels and I’ll order up.


29 posted on 04/09/2013 7:34:05 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Erik Latranyi
The provider that allows ala carte selection will make a mint!

That will never happen because cable companies are monopolies within their franchise areas. There are literally no overbuilt communities of any significance in America today. No competition means nothing to force them to do business any differently than what they have become accustomed to.

30 posted on 04/09/2013 9:25:46 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: swamprebel

Ah, but the problem is sports. That’s about all I watch, and right now I’m enjoying MLB, but I won’t get many football games in the fall. :-(


31 posted on 04/09/2013 9:31:44 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: SoFloFreeper

At the root of almost every problem, you will find its fertilizer - government. Cable companies are government protected monopolies, and the satellite companies don’t really provide much competition. Then you have the regulations concerning public access, what you pay for public TV, and other regulations, and the result is the mess we have now.


32 posted on 04/09/2013 9:33:54 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: servo1969

I was talking to my wife about this just tonight. I am sick of paying for the outrageous number of channels we never watch and never will watch. We finally got enough monthly bandwidth from our ISP to make Netflix a workable option and we like it. After the next and final season of Breaking Bad we are canceling the cable. Eff ‘em unless they give me ala carte channel choice.


33 posted on 04/09/2013 9:35:16 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: servo1969

Aereo has commercials, so what’s the problem?


34 posted on 04/09/2013 9:36:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

The reason why Fox is upset is because Aereo is taking their signal and re-broadcasting it to others without paying them. Cable and satellite companies typically pay stations and networks for the right to distribute their programming to subscribers. What Aereo is doing is theft.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 1:15:40 AM PDT by eaglescout1998
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To: eaglescout1998
What Aereo is doing is theft.

Nope.

What Aereo is doing is merely to provide its subscribers with a well-provisioned remote TV antenna with which to receive broadcasts they would in any case be entitled to receive, if they could be bothered. The courts said so.

Cable and satellite companies typically pay stations and networks for the right to distribute their programming to subscribers.

That's ass-backwards.

Aereo is acting as a power-amplifier enabling the stations to reach subscribers they otherwise would not be able to reach, or who wouldn't take the trouble to receive them without Aereo's assistance. Thus, if any financial exchange is in order, it should be in Aereo's favor, not the stations'.

36 posted on 04/10/2013 1:57:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SoFloFreeper

All I would want are FNC, Science, NatGeo, the various History Channels, and maybe G4. I don’t have time for anything else.


37 posted on 04/10/2013 2:52:17 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: nascarnation

Many types of Espn for sure, NBC too.


38 posted on 04/10/2013 4:38:43 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: eaglescout1998

So Fox should put all its programming on Fox.com. Problem solved. But they won’t, none of them do, except ESPN. Americans are forces into ridiculous cable plans for basic channels.


39 posted on 04/10/2013 6:04:01 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Bob Mc

CB and a shortwave, too?


40 posted on 04/10/2013 11:15:23 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: polymuser

Funny you should ask, I do find myself lately reading up on a shortwave.


41 posted on 04/12/2013 3:05:48 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Erik Latranyi

maybe some kind of online system?


42 posted on 04/12/2013 3:18:24 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: heye2monn

bump


43 posted on 04/12/2013 3:19:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: varyouga; heye2monn

There is a show that airs on one of the Nickelodean channels called “DeGrassi” or something. It is one of the most leftist propaganda shows ever. It’s about school kids and it is very very pro-sex, pro-gay, pro-abortion and everything else.

This is on a channel supposedly geared for kids


44 posted on 04/12/2013 3:21:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

When the Hollywood takes our young, the young wind up voting for socialist presidents.


45 posted on 04/12/2013 6:22:13 PM PDT by heye2monn
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