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How North Korea Could Destroy The United States
Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 5, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by raptor22

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To: Resolute Conservative

“If it is not on (not in standby by) it should come back on is my understanding.”

That’s true but even if a car is running and turns off, the science says it runs again when started again.

That is covered in that test report.


341 posted on 04/05/2013 12:54:58 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: kimtom

Where I live I’m not real worried about roving mobs.

Closest neighbor is about a mile away as the crow flies.

Probably wouldn’t be much of a mob left by the time they got to me.

What few neighbors I have would have thinned any mob out pretty good before I could even get there to give them a hand.

Neighbors around here aren’t the kind that are going to risk getting shot looking for a sandwich.

They would just go in the woods and get some food.


342 posted on 04/05/2013 12:56:29 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: raptor22

I really do not have the bandwidth left to worry about external threats anymore.


343 posted on 04/05/2013 12:57:39 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Elsie

Ha ha ha ha!! Now That’s FUNNY!!
(and fitting...)


344 posted on 04/05/2013 1:00:00 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Black Agnes
We were too busy trying to get clean water (boil water notice is a joke when you have no electricity. unless you have a wood cookstove, firewood and access to reasonably unpolluted surface water)

While Katrina got all the coverage, some of us endured the aftermath of Rita, with little or no attention. We too were without power 6 weeks. As far as dealing with boiled water notices, no one on the gulf coast riding out storms should be without a propane grill, and plenty of propane supply.

345 posted on 04/05/2013 1:03:50 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

Word on the propane. We never get lower than 2 spare tanks at a time. Just because of Katrina. The only reason Katrina got newsworthy was the 9th ward. If it had strictly been a rural MS storm you’d have seen one news report and that’d have been it.

Feel for y’all in Rita country. Know exactly what it was like for you.


346 posted on 04/05/2013 1:08:37 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

“How would they get the large step down transformer they’d need to do that?”

I think too many people on here are getting their panties in a wad over really nothing.

We may very well have societal breakdown in this country at some point, but it won’t be because of some North Korean toy nuke.

As for the transformers you speak of, the ones we have here export our hydro power to the west coast. Their not necessary for our local electrical consumption. Our water, sewage and gas would be up and running quickly.


347 posted on 04/05/2013 1:10:16 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Marcella

If I read it correctly, aircraft is not immune to EMP-related electronic failure. Radar control would be vulnerable if more than one block was affected.


348 posted on 04/05/2013 1:10:40 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I can also make it hanging it in front of my wood stove on a green sticks or pieces of wire.

Again no need to spend 2 hours building a contraption.

If you have a lot of meat you better have something big enough to handle it or you are going to end up with a lot of rotten meat.


349 posted on 04/05/2013 1:13:16 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: catfish1957
“While Katrina got all the coverage, some of us endured the aftermath of Rita, with little or no attention. We too were without power 6 weeks. As far as dealing with boiled water notices, no one on the gulf coast riding out storms should be without a propane grill, and plenty of propane supply.”

I was also without power during Rita. That was a horrible experience as leave notices were in effect from Houston down to the coast. The freeway a couple of blocks from my house was stacked with cars that couldn't move. The exits were blocked so they couldn't get off. That Hwy. 45 through here at that time was two lane on each side. They started tearing that highway up shortly after Rita and now it's four lanes both sides. I felt so sorry for those trapped on the highway.

I know you remember several people died on that road. Gov. Perry fixed that - now, gasoline trucks are stationed along exit roads if a large number of people have to leave.

Houston got smarter with Ike and told people to stay put unless they were in low lying areas. They stayed home which gave the folks from Houston to Galveston a much smaller amount of cars on the roads out.

We used our propane grill just like you did. I also have enough canned heat and several Sterno stoves to last a year. I've got enough jar candles for nighttime use to last a year.

Having a plan can save your life.

350 posted on 04/05/2013 1:15:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

I’m not worried about an EMP attack. It’s way down my list of concerns. But I see many other paths that lead to a similar grid-down outcome, which also takes down the Cisco network/the internet, and the commo satellites after a few weeks, throwing our cities in to disorder, chaos and violence.


351 posted on 04/05/2013 1:16:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: babygene

Is your local power the hydro one? Is it connected to those long power transport lines? It’s vulnerable. It will probably burn down.

As I said before, your region might come out better than most. As long as you don’t need antibiotics (manufactured overseas, come in through ports in the destroyed cities), medical equipment (MRI, CAT, etc), chemotherapy or specialized medical treatment. Or replacement parts for that electrical plant, assuming it continues to operate. Or replacement parts for any other critical equipment.

It might be a long time before those show up.


352 posted on 04/05/2013 1:18:36 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

“Is your local power the hydro one?”

We are an exporter of hydro power. And, Obama-care is more of a risk to medical services in this country than an EMP attack.

The sky is not going to fall...


353 posted on 04/05/2013 1:31:19 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Black Agnes; laplata
It’s the matter of plausible deniability. If the norks do it China and Russia both have clean hands. Who do we retaliate against, exactly?

Exactly. This is called "the borrowed knife strategy", and the knife-lender is nobody else but the Chinese. They started this crap from soup to nuts. Where do you think the Three Kims got their technology from?

Oh, and btw the Chinese are shoring things up quietly by sucking up to the Russians in a new anti-American entente. Oh, you didn't see that on LSM TV news? My bad, guess it didn't happen.

Oh, wait -- ChiCom CNN [Our corporate motto: "___ you, Joe, you die rill soon, Joe!"] says that it DID happen, the ChiComs are in fact holding military joint exercises with the Sovs -- er, make that, "Putinsky Russia".

So I guess the Chinese have to have some credibility about what they're doing with their own military.

354 posted on 04/05/2013 1:34:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: fivecatsandadog
“If I read it correctly, aircraft is not immune to EMP-related electronic failure. Radar control would be vulnerable if more than one block was affected.”

Aircraft would be in trouble in the affected area. A car turning itself off isn't going anywhere - it's not moving and one can start it again. A plane that loses power is still going somewhere and that is down.

Didn't this North Korea pos say to countries to get their diplomats out of the country by April 10? I don't think I would fly on April 10 or 11.

355 posted on 04/05/2013 1:36:03 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Elsie

“I hope it has a LARGE fuel tank!”

It does, in an emergency almost unlimited. I can pump my own natural gas, and you could too if you knew how.


356 posted on 04/05/2013 1:37:51 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Travis McGee
....throwing our cities in to disorder, chaos and violence.

But all of that works for Barky.

Makes you wonder if Kimmy isn't Barky's little "partner in progress". Burn America down, and Barky and his NDP/NBPP pals reorganize the place, like Johnny Rocco did Key Largo.

357 posted on 04/05/2013 1:39:30 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Travis McGee

“I’m not worried about an EMP attack”

After my research, I know North Korea can cause that today so it concerns me right now more than any other possibility.


358 posted on 04/05/2013 1:43:03 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Elsie

wow, that was cold!


359 posted on 04/05/2013 1:45:42 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: Marcella

April 10 or 11 - Where will their satellite be tracking on those dates? Can someone re-post that link (Norad)?


360 posted on 04/05/2013 1:56:37 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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