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U.S. reducing rhetoric that feeds North Korean belligerence
CNN ^ | 4 Apr 2013 | Barbara Starr and Tom Cohen, CNN

Posted on 04/04/2013 6:38:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Washington (CNN) -- Recent announcements of American military deployments in response to belligerent statements by North Korea may have contributed to escalating tensions between the two countries, Pentagon officials told CNN on Thursday in explaining an effort to reduce U.S. rhetoric about the reclusive state.

"We accused the North Koreans of amping things up, now we are worried we did the same thing," one Defense Department official said.

They spoke on the same day a U.S. official first told CNN that communications intercepts indicated North Korea may be planning to launch a mobile ballistic missile in the coming days or weeks.

Classified images and communications intercepts show that North Korea has moved up to two mobile missiles, launchers and fuel tanks to its East coast, another American official with knowledge of the matter told CNN. South Korean Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin told a parliamentary committee in Seoul that the activity signaled an imminent test firing or military drill, according to the semi-official South Korean news agency Yonhap.

Amid Pyongyang bluster, missile launch feared

One U.S. official said it is believed any launch this time would be a test.

The activity is consistent with a Musudan missile, the official said.

The Musudan is based on a Soviet-era system and has a 2,500-mile (4,000-kilometer) range that can threaten South Korea, Japan and Southeast Asia, but not U.S. forces based on Guam.

As a vital ally to South Korea since the Korean war in the 1950s, the United States has pledged military backing to Seoul in the event of an attack by North Korea.

In addition, North Korea has been developing nuclear weapons technology, raising concerns of rapid proliferation in the region and even a possible nuclear strike by Pyongyang.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: braking; budget; korea; northkorea; oldnews; pentagon; sequester; waronterror
The reason we are trying to back off is because of the Sequester and the 2011 Pentagon budget cut of $487 Billion - the new Hagel/Obama team has an agenda to gut the Pentagon even further. War threatens that agenda.

I don't want war - I have experienced 3 of them up close and personal. But, as Plato once said:

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

Hagel gave a speech yesterday, his first major policy public forum since being sworn in as SECDEF. It was a disaster. He signaled his orders from Obama to destroy military budgets, healthcare for active duty, their families and veterans, retirement for our military heroes, weapon systems, civilian and military force strength, and infrastructure.

Hagel tells Pentagon to brace for more cost cutting

The takers of American society will take more. The defenders of America will be betrayed.


1 posted on 04/04/2013 6:38:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

IOW, our communist idiot apologizes to their communist idiot. All is well in the world of communist idiots.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 6:42:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: SkyPilot

So ... this is all our fault? We mouthed off and caused North Korea to threaten us with nuclear weapons? If we could just chill out and stop being so American, the world would be a more peaceful place? Is that it?


3 posted on 04/04/2013 6:43:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Jim Robinson

LMAO! I shouldn’t laugh at such a grave situation, but if I don’t, I may lose my sanity.


4 posted on 04/04/2013 6:44:54 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: SkyPilot
do NOT taunt Happy FAT Ball...
5 posted on 04/04/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SkyPilot
What a basket case this once great Nation has become! Cowered by the bluffing of a juvenile bully. Where are the adults?



"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

6 posted on 04/04/2013 6:45:05 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: SkyPilot

Yeah - let’s give NK a “participate” trophy and call it good....

They go after Republicans harder than this. :(


7 posted on 04/04/2013 6:45:13 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Russia cleaned Obama's clock for "tempting" Kim....

Russia knows Kim is crazy....Obama thinks Kim is a rugrat

8 posted on 04/04/2013 6:48:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jim Robinson
God bless you Jim Robinson.

You are an American hero.

If you don't mind Jim, I want to pray for you right now. I am so grateful for this forum and what you have done for our nation.

Lord, I thank you for all of your wonderful grace upon those who believe in you. I humbly ask that you keep Jim and his family safe, and we know that you have a plan for us. Thank you God for that. In the name of Jesus we pray. Amen.

9 posted on 04/04/2013 6:48:23 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

10 posted on 04/04/2013 6:49:51 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SkyPilot

Alternate headline: Obama wimps out, Kim Jung-Un wins.


11 posted on 04/04/2013 6:49:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: SkyPilot

Amen


12 posted on 04/04/2013 6:50:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reading of Light Up. Will know in about 25 minutes.


13 posted on 04/04/2013 6:51:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SkyPilot
Yeah, it's like when Nixon was accused of widening the Vietnam War by bombing NVA sanctuaries... in Cambodia! The "media", even then, were too stupid to figure out that the NVA were there first, so if anyone had "widened" the war, it was North Vietnam. But that didn't fit with their scenario of "getting" Nixon.
14 posted on 04/04/2013 6:52:53 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Tzimisce

Obama has a back door communications line to these communist idiots. He’s convincing them that we’re really on the same team and just as soon as the democrats take over the majority in the congress after the 2014 elections, he’ll have a free hand to completely ignore the constitution. He’ll no longer be restricted by the republican congress or the pesky constitution and the world-wide collectivist utopia will be just around the corner.


15 posted on 04/04/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: ClearCase_guy
So ... this is all our fault? We mouthed off and caused North Korea to threaten us with nuclear weapons? If we could just chill out and stop being so American, the world would be a more peaceful place? Is that it?

I participated in the annual Spring/Summer military exercises in Korea. It was a very scary, but enlightening affair.

What we have to realize is that there is incredible EVIL going on in North Korea - and no one cares.

I say that with full guilt upon myself, because I didn't care either until I knew the truth. There are concentration camps in North Korea that dwarf those during WW II in scope, cruelty, numbers, and carnage.

The American people don't really care about this, and neither does the world community. I can tell you, however. that God cares. Immensely. If we go to war, I believe it is because God is acting.

I also believe, however, that the curses our nation is currently suffering under are of God - He is judging us for our sins.

16 posted on 04/04/2013 6:55:42 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Amen.

And thank you very much.


17 posted on 04/04/2013 6:55:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: SkyPilot

Wait until you see the size of the check we will send them


18 posted on 04/04/2013 7:03:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jim Robinson
Obama has a back door communications line to these communist idiots. He’s convincing them that we’re really on the same team and just as soon as the democrats take over the majority in the congress after the 2014 elections, he’ll have a free hand to completely ignore the constitution. He’ll no longer be restricted by the republican congress or the pesky constitution and the world-wide collectivist utopia will be just around the corner.

We are on the verge of losing all of our freedoms. I am convinced that Obama won not only via fraud, but with legitimate votes that were worried that their new found government checks would be taken away.

I believe in disability for those who are so afflicted. It is the cornerstone of compassion, and a just society. It has been abused, and that abuse jeopardizes the care we need to give to the truly needy and disabled. Especially those who have served this nation.

19 posted on 04/04/2013 7:05:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Mad Dawgg

Anything further?


20 posted on 04/04/2013 7:06:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ClearCase_guy
So ... this is all our fault? We mouthed off and caused North Korea to threaten us with nuclear weapons? If we could just chill out and stop being so American, the world would be a more peaceful place? Is that it?

Nah. That's not it. As Ollie North pointed out, the administration's response to the Nork provocations was like they were replaying Kennedy's "Seven Days In May" -- broadcasting all the defensive precautions that were being put in place and magnifying the threat.

When, in fact, the best way to deal with the Norks and their Junior Birdman leader is to publicly ignore them. It's like dealing with children -- they misbehave because they want attention. Don't give it to them.

Take the appropriate defensive precautions, of course. But do it quietly, so as not to inflate their self-importance.

21 posted on 04/04/2013 7:17:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
do it quietly

Point given and is looking quiet.

22 posted on 04/04/2013 7:19:38 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SkyPilot; Revolting cat!

Princess Rodman already delivered the message. He wants a personal meeting/concert/party with The One.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 7:25:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SkyPilot; Revolting cat!

If Obammy would invite the “Child Dictator” to the Man-Child King’s hut to see the Memphis Soul revue featuring Justins Timerlakes and Herself the Queen Latifah, he might be appeased and war could be averted in our time!


24 posted on 04/04/2013 7:27:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: okie01

“It’s like dealing with children — they misbehave because they want attention. Don’t give it to them.

Take the appropriate defensive precautions, of course. But do it quietly, so as not to inflate their self-importance.”

This is the BEST advice I’ve ever read for dealing with Bath-House Barry and company!


25 posted on 04/04/2013 7:30:55 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: SkyPilot

Insanity! These idiots always find a way to blame the US!


26 posted on 04/04/2013 7:31:36 PM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: SkyPilot

27 posted on 04/04/2013 7:32:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SkyPilot

WHAT KIND OF A JACKASS, SELF-REFLECTIVE, CONFESSING/CONTRITE PENTAGON STATEMENT IS THIS!!?? We owe nobody an apology. This is insane.


28 posted on 04/04/2013 7:54:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: SkyPilot

What I don’t understand is what North Korea expects would be the American response to a use of nuclear missiles against the United States (or even against U.S. bases in other countries)? Has anyone ever bothered to ask the clown who runs that country?

North Korea might indeed have to power to do serious harm to the U.S., but not anything comparable to what the U.S. could do to it. I assume our response to a nuclear attack on the U.S. would be to destroy North Korea, to wipe it out, and put an end to its existence as a country. (Who knows, though, maybe Obama would merely file a complaint with the United Nations. ;-)

Have we reduced our store of nuclear weapons so far that we can’t do a large-scale nuclear attack on North Korea and still have enough remaining to be a deterrent to other possible enemies? The threat of massive retaliation prevented nuclear war for over half a century, does that deterrent no longer exist?


29 posted on 04/04/2013 8:01:42 PM PDT by GJones2 ( North Korean threats)
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To: GJones2

‘might indeed have to power’ should be ‘might indeed have the power’


30 posted on 04/04/2013 8:04:26 PM PDT by GJones2 ( North Korean threats)
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To: SkyPilot

???

So doesn’t a missile launch create an opportunity for target practice? A real test?

Or is the US scared of publicity if they miss?


31 posted on 04/04/2013 8:09:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SkyPilot
U.S. reducing rhetoric that feeds North Korean belligerence

Translated from its native "ObamaButtKissingMedia-ish", this says: "Obama wusses out and becomes Kim Jung Un's bitch".

32 posted on 04/04/2013 8:15:56 PM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

You can laugh all you want, just make sure you have your Faraday cage ready. NK wouldn’t be this aggressive if Reagan, Bush or even Clinton were President. They see weakness and are exploiting it!


33 posted on 04/04/2013 8:19:49 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SkyPilot
Do not worry all who reside on mother earth. The Nobel Peace price recipient will not only save is all from global warming but will as well save is from our evil colonialist white european minority trampling selves who provoke the kind hearted communist North Koreans into simply defending their wholesome way of life.

OB One Homosexy will put on his pink cape, click his ruby red slippers make a few apologies send some 'aid' and all will be right with the world again.

34 posted on 04/04/2013 9:57:06 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Jim Robinson
IOW, our communist idiot apologizes to their communist idiot. All is well in the world of communist idiots.

LOL!!!

35 posted on 04/04/2013 9:59:29 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: SkyPilot

Hoo boy.


36 posted on 04/04/2013 10:40:37 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: SkyPilot; Chode; Jim Robinson; ConorMacNessa

37 posted on 04/04/2013 10:41:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, actually that’s pretty much what they are saying...

And now they’ll start teaching the kiddies how everything bad thing that happens to America we brought it on ourselves....oh WAIT! They’re ALREADY doing that!

Makes me sick to my stomach.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 11:40:33 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: GJones2

“does that deterrent no longer exist”

No. Obama pledged that he’ll never use nuclear weapons.


39 posted on 04/05/2013 2:53:55 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We never did anything! THEY are the ones who have threatened to hit us with missiles and nukes. THEY are the ones who made a video showing New York, Obama, the White House, and DC in flames. THEY are the ones who have a map with target cities in the U.S. THEY are the ones who declared an end to the armistice with South Korea, cut off the communication line, blocked the workers out, and made a video showing how they would conquer South Korea and take Americans there hostage. THEY are the ones moving missiles and proclaiming the war could start at any time. What have WE done except say and show we are capable of defending ourselves? Yet we’re apologizing? It’s like we’ve gone mad.


40 posted on 04/05/2013 2:58:50 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Shadowstrike

I am glad I am not one of our approximate 40K troops in Skor. This ass would give them up and apologize for it. I am so sick of him and his ideas, the worm. It is time the military leaders if we had any with gonads did the right thing and took him out of leadership.


41 posted on 04/05/2013 3:41:03 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Old Sarge
pretty much...
42 posted on 04/05/2013 4:11:03 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SkyPilot

Amen


43 posted on 04/05/2013 4:41:13 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Pinkbell

It is nothing short of sickening. Now CNN is starting in on the “Blame America First” game. Disgusting. For all the reasons you stated Pinkbell.


44 posted on 04/05/2013 6:18:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: SkyPilot

Have you noticed in every photo the generals surrounding Kim Jong-un are 65 y.o. plus. They date from his father’s era and they are dying off. Kim Jong-un needs to test the loyalty of the next crop against heighten military tension...read bluster.. Then he’ll pick the cream of the most devoted and golag or simply execute the rest. It’s a purge, Stalin did it all the time. This is page three in the leftist dictator’s handbook.


45 posted on 04/05/2013 12:26:49 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Pinkbell

Exactly, just as The pentagon spokesman said on CNn.

“”The North Koreans — even before those exercises started — had undertaken provocative steps, and they’ve conducted underground nuclear tests, they’ve conducted missile tests outside their international obligations. So they have a track record now over the past few months of provocative behavior,” he said.”


46 posted on 04/05/2013 8:09:16 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: okie01

Think they are trying that now, only it’s way too late. What does a community Organizer/union protester know about real war. He is thinks everything is psychological & manipulative. Now he’s like...whoops!


47 posted on 04/05/2013 8:14:11 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB
“What does a community Organizer/union protester know about real war?”

Nothing. Being able to whip up the emotions of single welfare moms in South Chicago is not “leadership”. It is class warfare and class envy rhetoric.

God help us. Obama is an boy idiot.

48 posted on 04/08/2013 9:51:34 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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