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Johns Hopkins University defends Dr. Ben Carson
http://tv.msnbc.com ^ | 03/29/2013 | Erin Delmore

Posted on 03/31/2013 8:53:54 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Johns Hopkins University is standing by Dr. Ben Carson, even after the neurosurgeon’s anti-gay remarks, Dennis O’Shea, executive director of the university’s media relations said.

“Dr. Carson is a distinguished Johns Hopkins surgeon and scientist chosen to speak at the School of Medicine diploma ceremony because of his extraordinary accomplishments as a neurosurgeon and his many contributions as an advocate for education and children,” O’Shea said in an email to The Huffington Post. “He was not asked to speak because of his personal political, religious or social views. His personal views are just that, his own. When he speaks about them, he is not speaking on behalf of Johns Hopkins.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: bencarson; carson; gay; highereducation; homosexualagenda; jhu; johnshopkins; marriage; maryland; nothinggayaboutit; samesexmarriage; sourcetitlenoturl; ssm
It looks like the thought police lose this one. :-) It also turns out that there is NOT a groundswell of students looking to not let him speak it was a small group of students and their petition is pathetic.
1 posted on 03/31/2013 8:53:54 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

I expect a temper tantrum from the spoiled brats. Bring it on, heh, heh.


2 posted on 03/31/2013 8:59:57 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr

I can’t wait. However I believe some are a bit reluctant to pile on him because so many see him in a positive light. The homosexual lobby which includes the media should tread carefully least they create too many sympathetic martyrs. Already there are countless examples of them playing the role of “brown shirt” or rather “pink shirts”. People are getting sick and tired of it even some of those who are sympathetic to homosexuals.


3 posted on 03/31/2013 9:05:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Apparently the group that wanted Dr. Carson out consisted of eight (8!) med students. Original stories indicated it was a majority of this year’s med school graduates. I didn’t think they’d get anywhere with this nonsense nor did Dr Carson.

I don’t so much care if there are 8 soon to be M.D.’s with degrees conferred by Johns Hopkins, but I am concerned that our best educated doctors could be so persuaded by political correctness as to disregard the very real medical problems that arise from ‘gay’ behavior.


4 posted on 03/31/2013 9:07:33 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

I agree. I just want Drs. that acknowledge the reality not the propaganda. I don’t expect anyone to be anti-gay just be truthful. It certainly doesn’t help homosexuals to ignore the high rates of drug/alcohol abuse, the high rates of stds, the rampant promiscuity, the high rates of suicide etc. The state of science and medicine is being thoroughly corrupted by political correctness. They are no longer satisfied to even admit what they do not fully understand, they report with certainty things they know are incomplete.
Anyway its good to see the good guys win again. Dr. Angela McCaskill got her job back too.


5 posted on 03/31/2013 9:16:44 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

The lavender shits are the most vicious of all.


6 posted on 03/31/2013 9:16:52 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Maelstorm

This is the REASON WHY Johns Hopkins is always ranked either #1 or #2 every year!

They follow science instead of PC bull****!


7 posted on 03/31/2013 9:23:27 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Maelstorm

8 posted on 03/31/2013 9:28:11 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Maelstorm
Johns Hopkins University is standing by Dr. Ben Carson, even after the neurosurgeon’s anti-gay remarks...through such insidious tactics do the likes of MSNBC spread their hatred and bigotry - Dr. Carson never made "anti-gay remarks" - he stood up for, defended traditional marriage - until conservatives learn to jump on such lies every time they're put out, they'll continue to be seen negatively.....
9 posted on 03/31/2013 9:28:48 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: EDINVA
Apparently the group that wanted Dr. Carson out consisted of eight (8!) med students.

Ah, don't you mean future abortionists?

10 posted on 03/31/2013 9:32:50 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: EDINVA
Apparently the group that wanted Dr. Carson out consisted of eight (8!) med students. Original stories indicated it was a majority of this year’s med school graduates

While I'm glad to hear that, it makes for a minor win for the destroyers on the left, because lots of low info folks saw the screaming headlines and very few will hear about the actual details. So the story goes down that Carson is such a bigot that his own medical school rejects him.

Enough of these sorts of incidents, and the myth of a conservative becomes the "truth". Case in point - how many people still believe that Sarah Palin said, "I can see Russia from my house"?

11 posted on 03/31/2013 9:35:39 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Shall not be infringed. Period.)
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To: Maelstorm
"His personal views are just that, his own."

Oh no they're not - as long as he lives on the plantation.

Dr. Carson will now understand what happens to someone with courage and accomplishment who climbs out of the leftist entitlement cesspool.

12 posted on 03/31/2013 10:42:01 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Maelstorm
"The state of science and medicine is being thoroughly corrupted by political correctness"

I would declare that this is a coordinated attack against all who state the obvious - an agenda to overturn the entire social / family history of the human race.

People can do whatever they want today between consenting adults. The SSM minority wants to deny nature and God - normalizing aberrant behavior. Their only tool is indoctrination, not theology or science.

13 posted on 03/31/2013 10:58:12 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Maelstorm

I thought as much, Liberals are very good at orgizizing to suppress the speech of others.

Organizing to make yourself look more popular than you are is after all a major tenet of liberalism.

This is unforutnatly something we must learn to copy and out do, we are behind the curve in this vital area of politics.


14 posted on 04/01/2013 12:02:42 AM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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At least the medical community understands that:

vulva
anus

15 posted on 04/01/2013 12:11:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Maelstorm

The designation of “anti-gay” is itself a lie. I don’t know anyone who is anti-gay in the way they mean it. The people I know don’t accept the homosexual lifestyle. It is not only morally wrong, but physically and mentally unhealthy.

Pointing this out isn’t anti-anything, but pro-life. Homosexuals as people deserve love and respect individually, but you don’t have to like or accept their lifestyle. Telling the truth isn’t a political act.


16 posted on 04/01/2013 4:01:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Old Sarge
Now I don't care who you are...That's funny !
17 posted on 04/01/2013 4:55:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: EDINVA

Yeah...it was small. I went to their FB page and commented. At the time, there were only 124 page followers, and the post on Dr. Carlson only had 22 ‘likes’.

The Left media made as much hay as they possibly could for this non-story.


18 posted on 04/01/2013 4:57:27 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Wanderer99
They follow science instead of PC bull****!

Well they did remove Chick-fil-A as a sponsor due to the "controversy."
19 posted on 04/01/2013 5:05:09 AM PDT by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Maelstorm
To say he is “anti-gay” is incorrect. He is against gay marriage. That does not make him anti-gay.
20 posted on 04/01/2013 5:15:11 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: EDINVA

*****Apparently the group that wanted Dr. Carson out consisted of eight (8) med students*****

These 8 ‘students’ should have their names published. Clearly they are unable to read and/or separate ‘feelings’ from facts. Lacking such critical thinking, they will never reach the level of accomplishment as Dr. Carson. We need to know who they are and avoid putting our health in their hands.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 5:27:01 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Maelstorm

How interesting. It seems only one formally associated with Johns Hopkins who didn’t defend Ben Carson was Ben Carson, when he offered to step aside as speaker.

Dr. Carson has hopefully learned a lesson in Politics 101.


22 posted on 04/01/2013 5:31:06 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Maelstorm; All
the neurosurgeon’s anti-gay remarks

He's not "anti-gay".

He's anti Disease-ridden, Boy-raping Whackjob!

Aren't you?

23 posted on 04/01/2013 5:42:26 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: sodpoodle
These 8 ‘students’ should have their names published...We need to know who they are and avoid putting our health in their hands.

Or any thing else for that matter.

Including your served food, at a restaurant.

24 posted on 04/01/2013 5:47:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Maelstorm

It scares me that we are losing touch with people like Dr. Ben Carson who are able to accurately identify Truth and wisdom in the midst of a slew of insidiously misleading propaganda. They are not bothering to speak out as much because the world is going in such an appallingly ignorant direction that the truly intelligent and aware consensus is becoming, “Why bother trying to fix a thoroughly corrupted state; where would one even begin to approach sharing light with minds of such loopy reasoning?” It’s like trying to verbally teach a clam that if he had eyes, he could see the color green... Anyway, I wish I could somehow share any strength I may have with him when he is confronted with sensational media rhetoric designed to purposely mislead and serve as stumbling blocks. The most we can hope to do at this point is stick to black and white objective facts that clearly back positions. IN any other case, things always turn into an opinion based argument where sides are chosen between the lesser of two supposed evils (one being over judgmental and the other being completely hedonistic). He should stick to: the institution of what we currently refer to as marriage, is one inextricably defined by certain specifics. The basis of his argument at this time should be one of proper classification and definition. If a new association between partners demands to be investigated, then do that and make provisions based on the NEW SET of criteria. This would be better than calling a house rental agreement, a constitutionally defined, “marriage,” between man and house, yaknow?!


25 posted on 04/01/2013 6:37:51 AM PDT by Lord_Count_Chocula (Truth and Wisdom)
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To: Maelstorm

This is excellent news.


26 posted on 04/01/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Lord_Count_Chocula

You are right. That said I am not opposed to making civil contracts easier for anyone to go into just don’t call it marriage and don’t restrict it to the assumption of sexual arrangements. Right now so called civil unions are being treated as if they are more binding than marriage where biological parents are concerned. This is just crazy and is one reason why I do not support the “civil union” remedy. A non biological parent should not receive more rights than a biological parent that does nothing more than decide they are no longer gay.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 8:38:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: oldbrowser

?!


28 posted on 04/01/2013 9:05:53 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: Vision
Well they did remove Chick-fil-A as a sponsor due to the "controversy."

I'm only referring to their medical docs. Liberal arts professors tend to be idiots everywhere.
29 posted on 04/01/2013 9:38:09 AM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: cyn
The lavender shits are the most vicious of all.

that was supposed to be "shirts".
My keyboard and my fingers don't want to work together.

30 posted on 04/01/2013 9:58:51 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

I dunno, looks like a freudian slip to me!

There were *so* many ‘clever’ comments I mulled over. I finally settled on the safest one! :o)


31 posted on 04/01/2013 10:02:43 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: Maelstorm
Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.


We are not against the homosexuals, or gay people themselves... for what we are against is the homosexual sin and spirit.

Yes people, no matter how you look at it, homosexuality is a demonic spirit.

We should all love the person, the individual who is homosexual, but are gainst the sin of homosexuality, the demonic spirit that is homosexuality.
32 posted on 04/01/2013 11:15:31 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree. I’ve never been against gays in the sense of hating them for we all have our crosses to bear but what they ask for is not love of person or tolerance but love and domination of their sin their imperfection.


33 posted on 04/01/2013 11:21:21 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm
We will never win this war or battle against this thing unless we reconize it for what it is...

Homosexuality is a demonic satanic spirit that diguese it's selve as love.

We can not war or battle against this thing is our own flesh, blood, or human power or efforts.

This thing must be won and war against with God's help and the holy spirit.

We must reconize that they either allowed this spirit to come into them, or they are held in bondage to this thing.

The thing to start with is to have a healthy relationship with God throught Jesus Christ, and much, much prayer.

What they are blinded to is that some see or reconize sex or relate sex with love.

Greed is another spirit, corruption is another spirit.

Does anyone think that the devil will be comining to people at a red ugly thing with a pitch fork ?

The bible tells us that the devil comes to us and tries to deceive us as a " Angel of light "

The greatest trick, scheme the devil uses to decieve us with is the mastery of disguses.

He's very subtle.

The one who does battle for us is God, in much , much prayer, and is needs be much fasting.

Also ?

In 1 John 4:1 the bible tells us to test the spirits.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


The victory over this will not be won with human power, human efforts, human intelligence.
34 posted on 04/01/2013 11:31:17 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree that prayer is important but I think human intelligence and human action by stepping in faith with the armor of God is important.


35 posted on 04/01/2013 11:36:26 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: American Constitutionalist
1 John 4 (King James Version)

4. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.



The spirit of the anti-christ will deny Jesus's divinity, Jesus being born of super natural means, born of a virgin, that God came to earth as a man, God in the flesh ( Jesus Christ Messiah ) and died, and rose again, and he set down at the right hand of the throne of God, God's right hand of authority.

36 posted on 04/01/2013 11:43:02 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Maelstorm
Proverbs 3

3. Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

4. So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.

5. Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

7. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.


Trust not on your own intellect, reasoning, power, understanding.
Ask God for wisdom, and he will give it gladly and freely.

Trust in the Lord will all, with all, with all your heart, and lean not onto you own understanding, your own intellect, your own reasoning.

Yes, you lean on and trust God he will give you understanding, intellect that is from him , wisdom that is from him that is beyond this world.
37 posted on 04/01/2013 11:51:40 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

That’s exactly what I try to do. I pray for wisdom and patience.


38 posted on 04/01/2013 12:14:10 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Intolerant in NJ
“Johns Hopkins University is standing by Dr. Ben Carson, even after the neurosurgeon’s anti-gay remarks...through such insidious tactics do the likes of MSNBC spread their hatred and bigotry - Dr. Carson never made “anti-gay remarks” - he stood up for, defended traditional marriage - until conservatives learn to jump on such lies every time they're put out, they'll continue to be seen negatively.....”

Exactly correct. He simply spoke the truth. What MSNBC is saying, in effect, is that the truth is anti-gay.

Conservatives want freedom from coercion. Liberals want freedom from reality.

39 posted on 04/01/2013 12:59:59 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain; All

I was listening to Rush a couple of days ago, when I had the very rare experience of hearing a caller pull one over on him. The caller did this by calling himself a gay republican Rush listener. Then he went on to define the issue of “gay marriage” as one of economic fairness.

Rush almost caught the trick when he said that two sisters that lived together would be treated the same way as two who claimed to be in a “gay marriage”.

When you consider that, what the homosexuals want is legal priviledge for homosexual acts.

Live with a person without sexual acts, you are treated one way by the law. Live with them and claim a homosexual relationship, and you get special privileges.


40 posted on 04/01/2013 1:09:51 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Maelstorm; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Kudos to Johns Hopkins.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


41 posted on 04/01/2013 1:09:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Maelstorm

“Rocket science” or “brain surgery” are the two most often used “duh” comparisons — as in, “It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to learn how to use an iPhone”, etc. It’s going to be super, super contortionist for the media to slime this man as a dumb right winger.

Not that they won’t try.


42 posted on 04/01/2013 7:09:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Commies out of DC!" --Raoul Deming, 1954-2013)
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To: Maelstorm
i found this recently on youtube. simply put the gay experience gets worse not better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrN3tMW2bcI&feature=youtu.be

make sure & read the video notes... lots of links to prove the point. notice how the cdc is getting really weird. much of this is at least pg-13 & worse.

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to the lgbt person:

GOD speaking to Cain before he killed Abel

"If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it." GENESIS 4:7

Watch over your heart with all diligence, For from it flow the springs of life. Proverbs 4:23

One who is full loathes honey, but to one who is hungry everything bitter is sweet. Proverbs 27:7

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20

Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul. 1 Peter 2:11

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. 1 Cor 6:9-11

Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17“For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19“This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20“For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21“But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.” John 3:16-21

“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29“Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matt 11:28-30

43 posted on 04/01/2013 7:13:46 PM PDT by Psalm_2 (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:21 NASB)
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To: Maelstorm

Leo Terrel on Hannity just said Carson DOES NOT have a right to speak an opinion on non-medical issues. And he also called Carson a monster.


44 posted on 04/01/2013 9:41:07 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Maelstorm.
"Dr. Carson is a distinguished Johns Hopkins surgeon and scientist chosen to speak at the School of Medicine diploma ceremony because of his extraordinary accomplishments as a neurosurgeon and his many contributions as an advocate for education and children,” O’Shea said in an email to The Huffington Post. "He was not asked to speak because of his personal political, religious or social views. His personal views are just that, his own. When he speaks about them, he is not speaking on behalf of Johns Hopkins."

45 posted on 04/06/2013 10:26:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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