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Jeb Bush: Entitlement System Will Collapse If We Donít Act Now (But did he tell his brother this?)
newsmax ^ | 3/31/13 | Jim Meyers and John Bachman

Posted on 03/31/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by bestintxas

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has written the cover story for the April edition of Newsmax magazine, offering an optimistic view of America’s future — and straight talk about its problems — with the resounding message: “Growth is the answer” to our nagging economic woes.

And the leading Republican sat down with Newsmax for a wide-ranging interview elaborating on a number of topics he discusses in his magazine feature, arguing that America can be great again if we open up the doors to economic opportunity.

Bush, who served two terms as Florida’s governor, has earned a nationwide reputation for reform proposals in the fields of education and immigration. He is founder and chairman of the Foundation for Excellence in Education, author of the new book “The Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution” — co-written with constitutional law expert Clint Bolick — and is considered a strong contender for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.

Bush’s Newsmax magazine piece stresses the need for economic growth to deal with the nation’s debt and deficit problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; stayoutdabushes
Here's a Bush preaching to us, but I do not recall him publicly chastising his brother when he dreamed up a prescription drug entitlement alongside a grinning Teddy Kennedy.

NO MORE BUSHES. Go away Jeb

1 posted on 03/31/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

of course its not sustainable

but he wouldn’t change it


2 posted on 03/31/2013 4:04:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: bestintxas
Entitlement System Will Collapse If We Don’t Act Now

But Jeb, you make that sound like a bad thing.

STHU Jeb.

3 posted on 03/31/2013 4:04:46 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: bestintxas

Is Medicare Part D one of those “unsustainable” entitlements? Thank you Dubya. I sure wish Jeb would learn why Keynesian economics is morally corrupt and economically so wrong and dangerous. He ought to get a quick lesson from some competent Austrians. (see the free lectures and e-books at mises.org!)


4 posted on 03/31/2013 4:05:32 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: bestintxas

jeb was a good gov but he needs to go away and focus on being a lobbyist


5 posted on 03/31/2013 4:05:50 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bestintxas

It’s not just the “entitlement system” that is about to collapse. Wait until the ‘RATS and RINOs put 30 million illegals on the FreeWay to “Citizenship”. The whole dang country is going to collapse.


6 posted on 03/31/2013 4:05:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gave the Republicans a free lunch. All the taxpayers got was a lousy tax increase.)
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To: bestintxas

The only Bush I want to hear about, is the one that was burning. Just go away, Jeb


7 posted on 03/31/2013 4:07:01 PM PDT by Sgt. Stryker ("Saddle Up, Saddle Up")
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To: bestintxas

This from a guy who wants to add 35 million illegals to the welfare rolls later this year through amnesty. With Republicans like this, who needs Democrats?


8 posted on 03/31/2013 4:14:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: bestintxas

The whole Growth ideal was how we got into the mess in the first place. We had won the Cold War. Growth was no longer needed. Yet the crooks who run DC wanted more.


9 posted on 03/31/2013 4:15:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: bestintxas

True, but what is his idea of “acting now?”


10 posted on 03/31/2013 4:22:17 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: bestintxas

The only one’s getting the big bloated entitlements are the government employees.

Let it collapse.


11 posted on 03/31/2013 4:24:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bestintxas

I agree, stay away all you Bushes and anyone associated with them.

I had such high hopes in 2000 when Rush Limbaugh introduced Bush and Cheney when I was working for Halliburton.

Sheesh, both of them were duds, nothing more but RINO duds. I don’t think that there is a true conservative in politics today.


12 posted on 03/31/2013 4:29:54 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: bestintxas
And the leading Republican

By definition, one has to have followers in order to be a leader. Who exactly are Jeb's supporters?

13 posted on 03/31/2013 4:33:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The one exception: Burn After Reading. Just. Not. Good.)
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To: GeronL

No, he wouldn’t change it. Frankly, I am starting to think no politician would because of fear of the riots and chaos that would occur if people were denied benefits.

I am also starting to suspect that “Growth” is a code word for unchecked immigration. Except that the thing that would most grow is the Entitlement system as we add tens of millions of more clients.


14 posted on 03/31/2013 4:35:32 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: driftdiver
jeb was a good gov

Nope. He let Terri Schiavo be slowly murdered in his state. He is dead to me.

15 posted on 03/31/2013 4:37:54 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: driftdiver
jeb was a good gov but he needs to go away and focus on being a lobbyist

is that what they call hotel a hotel doorman now?

16 posted on 03/31/2013 4:55:54 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: theBuckwheat
I know Part D was a bad idea, but GW did try to institute a plan that would allow future recipients of Social Security to invest a small portion of their FICA taxes in personal accounts. The Democrats went ballistic and it did not pass. Had that happened, Social Security would be in much better shape than it is now.

I LOVE Free Republic, but I hate these threads that bash George Bush. He was not perfect, but at least I had no doubt that he loved this country and wanted the best for it - unlike Obama whose every move has been and will be to destroy America. I agree that Jeb should not even think about running for POTUS, but I would much rather have GW and Laura in the WH than the two interlopers who currently reside there!

17 posted on 03/31/2013 4:58:00 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: theBuckwheat
I know Part D was a bad idea, but GW did try to institute a plan that would allow future recipients of Social Security to invest a small portion of their FICA taxes in personal accounts. The Democrats went ballistic and it did not pass. Had that happened, Social Security would be in much better shape than it is now.

I LOVE Free Republic, but I hate these threads that bash George Bush. He was not perfect, but at least I had no doubt that he loved this country and wanted the best for it - unlike Obama whose every move has been and will be to destroy America. I agree that Jeb should not even think about running for POTUS, but I would much rather have GW and Laura in the WH than the two interlopers who currently reside there!

18 posted on 03/31/2013 4:58:00 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: srmorton

Good post.

GWB will always be a stand-up guy in my book.

Only some FReepers are without fault....


19 posted on 03/31/2013 5:00:34 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: bestintxas

You understate the legacy of GWB: Medicare Part D was the largest entitlement program since the LBJ Great Society era.

The ramp up in SS disability and food stamps also started with the GWB administration.

Professional politicos like Karl Rove promised it would create a permanent Republican majority.


20 posted on 03/31/2013 5:22:24 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: FredZarguna

I’m sure he has some great consultants like Karl Rove.


21 posted on 03/31/2013 5:23:55 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This from a guy who wants to add 35 million illegals to the welfare rolls later this year through amnesty. With Republicans like this, who needs Democrats?”

Yeah, tell him to pack up his Mexican wife and move south. He’d make a good President of Mexico. (Oh I forgot, they won’t allow him because he’s not “native born”).


22 posted on 03/31/2013 5:24:49 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: nascarnation
Thanks! I thought I was alone in my love for George and Laura!
23 posted on 03/31/2013 5:26:44 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: bestintxas

Doesn’t anyone on FR remember Bush trying to get personal medical accounts and retirement accounts.

Bush tried to reform entitlements but couldn’t get either Republicans or Democrats to go along. At the time, no one wanted to hear about entitlement reform.


24 posted on 03/31/2013 5:36:51 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: srmorton

To call Bush’s FICA investment scheme hare-brained would be to give it too much credit for having been thought through at all. In no way would it have resulted in the government’s liability being reduced, and would simply been one more massive bail out in 2008-2009.

We solve the entitlement problem in a few steps.

First, Medicare and indigent senior Medicaid inflation must be zeroed out on a per-capita basis and eventually become negative on a per-capita basis such that total outlays can stabilize. The senior citizen health care system must be made MUCH, MUCH cheaper.

Second, disability must go through a 1996-style reform. Despite what (might have been) the best of intentions, SSI and SSDI have become a welfare program with all of the ills and negative incentives of the worst of welfare systems.

Third, social security retirement income should have a reform of the cost-of-living calculator.


25 posted on 03/31/2013 5:48:52 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m with you. I’m prepared. I learned a long time ago that Social Security is not going to be there when I would need it. Keep calm and carry on.


26 posted on 03/31/2013 6:26:00 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: bestintxas
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush ....
“Growth is the answer” to our nagging economic woes.... .... arguing that America can be great again if we open up the doors to economic opportunity.

Bush’s Newsmax magazine piece stresses the need for economic growth to deal with the nation’s debt and deficit problems.

Hey Jeb, you RINO POS!
How 'bout if you & the other RINOs and the RAT socialist bastard demoRATs just quit spending by about $2 Trillion .... THIS YEAR. Let's see how 50% less gubmint spending & 50% less gubmint regulations will spur the economy.

27 posted on 03/31/2013 7:14:47 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: bestintxas

I second that. Jeb has WH ambitions just as profound, and just as destructive, as Hillary. But we need to be very firm with Jeb: NO! Not ever! We will NOT vote for you, no how! Just stop it right now! You may have every billionaire and banker in the country supporting you, who will buy you more ad time than anyone ever before, but it is not enough.

If you run, it will guarantee Hillary in the White House, and conservatives will curse you and your family forever. We are already cursing two of your kin. But our rage will be reserved for you, Jeb.

Because of your families’ arrogance, our country is teetering on the brink of ruin. Democrats control the White House and senate. Your family has brought this mess down on our heads, and we do not forgive any of you for it.

Yes, your father and your brother thought they were so smart, so internationalist, so elite. Someday the lot of you need to be homeless and shunned.


28 posted on 03/31/2013 7:16:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: only1percent

I am an instructor in Medical Laboratory Technology and Biology at our local community college and I know NOTHING about Economics. Your ideas sound great, but my point was that he did suggest doing something about the problem. The thing that appealed to me about his idea is that there are many people who think that there is an account in DC with their name on it that will be there no matter what which would be laughable if it wasn’t such a crime. A private investment account would be something that did have a person’s name on it which could be passed on to surviving family members. Despite what happened in 2008, the stock market over time has continued to go up, and, as long as risky investments are avoided, one could expect to come out ahead - unlike my children who are in their 30’s. They are forced to pay FICA taxes, but I firmly believe they will never see a penny of benefits.


29 posted on 03/31/2013 7:25:23 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: bestintxas
RE :”Here's a Bush preaching to us, but I do not recall him publicly chastising his brother when he dreamed up a prescription drug entitlement alongside a grinning Teddy Kennedy. NO MORE BUSHES. Go away Jeb”

Bump!

30 posted on 03/31/2013 7:44:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: srmorton

Regarding your #17....

I agree with all you stated!! Bush 43 is unfairly bashed by many here on FR. I opposed his attempt at amnesty for illegals in 2006-07, but the majority of his actions supported the betterment of Americans and the defense of this country.


31 posted on 03/31/2013 9:31:58 PM PDT by octex
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To: bestintxas

Its amazing how the business as usual politicians will say what we want to hear to get our votes.

But don’t hold you breath for any real action to quickly cut spending and balance the nation’s budget.


32 posted on 03/31/2013 9:59:29 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: octex

Medicare Part D, the 2008 business bailout and the no-win war in Afghanistan are all part of the Bush 43 legacy.

After 9/11 the Taliban that came out of Pakistan needed to be chased into Pakistan and taken out along with the Al-Quaeda in their entirety, but this war “drones” on so to speak.


33 posted on 03/31/2013 10:05:35 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: srmorton

Can’t cover up the truth about Bush’s liberalism, his big spending or his big government tendencies.

To say that one would prefer Bush in office versus Obama is merely to choose between the lesser of two evils (which is the former, to be clear). Never mind to compare apples to oranges since neither man ran against the other. Neither is an “interloper”, I would go so far as to say, since ultimately it is God that chooses our leaders (Romans 13:1).


34 posted on 03/31/2013 11:16:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: octex

Please cite “unfair” bashing. That would constitute false accusations on the basher’s part. Getting “harsh” and “unfair” mixed up is in itself unfair.


35 posted on 03/31/2013 11:18:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: wildbill

“Doesn’t anyone on FR remember Bush trying to get personal medical accounts and retirement accounts.

Bush tried to reform entitlements but couldn’t get either Republicans or Democrats to go along. At the time, no one wanted to hear about entitlement reform.”

Good intentions don’t cut it, otherwise the libs would always be winners.

What I do know is his prescription health benefit he passed was a new entitlement that gave us nothing but a quicker way to go broke.


36 posted on 04/01/2013 4:28:25 AM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: Olog-hai
I am with you about God's being in control, but Obama is the most far left, most incompetent POTUS that I have seen in my life time of 63 years! To compare yours and others perceived liberalism in GWB to what Obama has demonstrated in his first term is also to compare apples and oranges! Just look at the cynical way he has approached the sequester - which is not really a cut at all, but a reduction in the amount of growth. He has deliberately tried to select things that will cause the most pain so that he can blame everything on the Republicans! He is in full-time campaign mode even though he cannot constitutionally run for another term. He has escaped blame for the deaths at Benghazi and for those that occurred due to Fast and Furious. No matter how much you dislike George Bush, you have to admit that were he still the POTUS, there would already have been articles of impeachment drawn up! When I used the term “interlopers”,I meant that the Obamas seem to be using the American people to provide them with the life style that they would never have been able to achieve had he not been elected president (expensive vacations for them and their cronies, extravagant spending on clothes and shoes by Michelle, golfing outings for Obama, etc.)
37 posted on 04/01/2013 11:06:40 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: srmorton

In context, it’s not apples and oranges, especially viewing the leftward shift from the beginning of the twentieth century onward. Obama is certainly the culmination, and the other side of the “red line” to use a cliché. Maybe tangerines (Bush) with Seville oranges (Obama)?


38 posted on 04/01/2013 11:14:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: bestintxas
Bush tried to reform entitlements but couldn’t get either Republicans or Democrats to go along. At the time, no one wanted to hear about entitlement reform.”

The Buck Stops Here.

39 posted on 04/01/2013 11:17:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FredZarguna
By definition, one has to have followers in order to be a leader. Who exactly are Jeb's supporters?

The DemocRATs will supply him with as many as he needs.

40 posted on 04/01/2013 11:17:55 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: bestintxas

Captain Obvious strikes again.

Sit down, Jeb, and stop drooling.


41 posted on 04/01/2013 11:30:35 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Just say “no” to Jeb Bush. Enough nonsense. We need to get America back.


42 posted on 04/01/2013 11:31:33 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Olog-hai
I can go for that analogy! :)
43 posted on 04/01/2013 2:37:21 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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