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To: Alberta's Child

The Catholic Church in the United States became one of the most dominant “counter-cultural” forces in the world when it rightly decided that it wanted no part of the dominant Protestant culture of this country at the time.

...what in the world are you talking about? The Church, following the vacuous affair called the Second Vatican ecumenical Council, couldn’t rip its communion rails and altars out of the churches fast enough, couldn’t wait to vernacularize its liturgy, hopped on board turning its priests around to face the people and unveil an entire panoply of Protestant imitations, including desacralizing the language and devaluing the concept of priestly ordination, and the abominable communion in the hand...all this was done in the firm belief that ‘ecuminism’ was calling the Church to move swiftly to rejoin with its ‘separated brethren’...
...and along with all of that, remember the seminaries of the 1970’s, and its effluent gaycentrism, its lavendar mafia, if you will...and as for loss of Catholic identity? How many primary and secondary Catholic schools have closed since those same 1960’s? How many local churches have shuttered their doors, their faithful drifting away to mega churches and other such stuff?
...counter culture...we could only wish it were so...


40 posted on 03/30/2013 11:39:44 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
You're right about all of that. I was referring to the Catholic Church in the United States from the latter decades of the 19th century up through the 1950s.

Vatican II marked the end of the Catholic Church as a "counter-cultural" institution. In fact, the Catholic Church became very much a "cultural" institution of the world from that point onward -- which basically means it isn't much of anything at this point.

46 posted on 03/31/2013 6:34:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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