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Report: Big Oklahoma quake in 2011 was likely man-made
Winston Salem Journal ^

Posted on 03/26/2013 6:32:28 PM PDT by SMGFan

WASHINGTON — An unusual and widely felt 5.6-magnitude quake in Oklahoma in 2011 was probably caused when oil drilling waste was pushed deep underground, a team of university and federal scientists concluded.

(Excerpt) Read more at journalnow.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: agitprop; oklahoma; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills
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Well man causes global warming. /s
1 posted on 03/26/2013 6:32:28 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: thackney

Ping.


2 posted on 03/26/2013 6:34:29 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SMGFan

Probably?

Gonna need more evidence than “maybe”.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 6:34:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SMGFan
"...and federal scientists concluded."

Well then, it's GOTTA be true!

4 posted on 03/26/2013 6:34:46 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: SMGFan

When you set out to prove a man-made cause you can skew the data to prove your theory....and they did.


5 posted on 03/26/2013 6:36:34 PM PDT by Autonomous User (The Obama Doctrine: Blame America First.)
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To: SMGFan

probably , maybe....

lolz


6 posted on 03/26/2013 6:36:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SMGFan

Scientists may have “concluded”, but that conclusion wasn’t reached scientifically.

It was a premeditated, agenda driven “conclusion”.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 6:38:21 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SMGFan
yeah, right...

8 posted on 03/26/2013 6:40:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SMGFan

I experienced that earthquake. At the time, the experts said it was not caused by fracking. There is a fault line called the Wilzetta fault near Prague.


9 posted on 03/26/2013 6:42:08 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: SMGFan

“In a statement, the Oklahoma Geological Survey said the interpretation that best fits the data is the quake “was the result of natural causes” but needs further study. The state officials cited new 3-D seismic data, a time lag between injection and the quakes , and the orientation of the faults to say it was natural not induced.”


10 posted on 03/26/2013 6:44:25 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: SMGFan

As the good Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf would say, “bovine scatology.”


11 posted on 03/26/2013 6:44:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: SMGFan

Haven’t you heard? ALL DRILLING IS FRACKING AND WE”RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

Here is a story out of Ann Arbor about the exploration of leases in that county and the liberals are already screeching about fracking with the writer of the story urging them on in the comments. The reality is that Fracking generally isn’t needed for the shallow michigan wells.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/company-exploring-oil-leases-in-northfield-township/


12 posted on 03/26/2013 6:49:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SMGFan

This technology, in OK definitely, is 60 years old. This has got to be the most wild ass stack of execrable, shameless posturing I’ve read this week.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 6:53:18 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: SMGFan

If they think a 5.6M is big, wait until the enviro-nuts start “sequestering” CO2 by the bcf deep underground...


14 posted on 03/26/2013 6:54:39 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: SMGFan

The DC quake last year’s seismograph was very weird too, almost like a underground nuke.


15 posted on 03/26/2013 7:00:04 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SMGFan

Sure, Ya gotta believe the govt scientists and university profs? I wouldnt be inclined to believe these dorks If they tried to convince me that yesterday was, well, yesterday.


16 posted on 03/26/2013 7:05:40 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: SMGFan

Lordy I am sick of the post hoc ergo proper hoc arguments that keep creeping into so called scientific reports


17 posted on 03/26/2013 7:07:02 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Montanabound
To my recollection, the Prague area has a relatively active earthquake history -- for Oklahoma, that is.

The previous state record quake -- 5.2 magnitude -- occurred in the same area in 1952. Prior to that, there was another five-something back in the twenties. Same area.

Point being there is an extensive earthquake history in the area, going back well beyond the start of injection wells.

18 posted on 03/26/2013 7:10:06 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Montanabound
I experienced that earthquake.

I was in Norman during the quake. My dogs started barking followed by a loud bang and then the house shook.

19 posted on 03/26/2013 7:24:55 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SMGFan

The reason it was so big is because they didn’t pump the waste down sooner.


20 posted on 03/26/2013 7:32:23 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SMGFan

University and federal scientists? No agenda there. /sarc


21 posted on 03/26/2013 7:32:40 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: SMGFan

I’ll be definitely maybeed.


22 posted on 03/26/2013 7:32:55 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: SMGFan

Was Christopher Walken involver?


23 posted on 03/26/2013 7:34:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Nuttery, reemerging.

Thanks SMGFan.


24 posted on 03/26/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SMGFan

25 posted on 03/26/2013 7:46:14 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SMGFan
a team of university and federal scientists concluded...........

A team of amateur green weenies and professional green weenies masquerading as real scientist concluded............

26 posted on 03/26/2013 7:47:10 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Nifster

Thus far, this whole thread is like groundhog day for me. This is exactly the same logical fallacy I see day in and day out where I work. Because somebody has an all powerful senior or fellow behind their title suddenly they are infallible to all but those really in the know (or those who take the time to understand the detail), which are usually one in the same anyhow.

At least I understand the proper term for it now.

I guess confirmation bias is another good term for it as well.


27 posted on 03/26/2013 8:00:45 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: okie01

Probably looking at something around a 250kTn energy release to generate Richter 5.6 seismic waves. That doesn’t account for the total energy release where much of it might be absorbed as heat in the soil mechanics in the media.


28 posted on 03/26/2013 8:01:46 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Montanabound

Ever been in the ‘Gypsum hills’ region, east of Woodward, OK in the Cimmaron country, Canadian river area? The Gloss/Glass mountains.
They rise up out of the ground like Playdough pushed through a form and sparkle in the sun due to the gypsum crystals. Beautiful.

I’m pretty sure caveman drilling caused them. Or global warming!!!///


29 posted on 03/26/2013 8:57:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SMGFan

“....a team of university and federal scientists concluded.”

No credibility.


30 posted on 03/26/2013 8:57:35 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: SMGFan

Coincidence does not equal causation.

31 posted on 03/26/2013 8:59:51 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: tumblindice

Yes, I have been to Alabaster Caverns a few times, too. Oklahoma does have a lot of variety.

The year of the earthquake also had record low temps, record high temps, fires, floods, tornadoes, a blizzard - it was crazy.


32 posted on 03/26/2013 9:12:28 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: Montanabound

And Boiling Springs state park. Lots of good memories growing up in western Oklahoma.


33 posted on 03/26/2013 9:20:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Montanabound
I felt that earthquake myself, and I happen to know several of the investigators from the University of Oklahoma. They were already looking at an increased number of small earthquakes that had been happening for a year or more prior to the bigger one, and they already were of the opinion that waste injections were causing these quakes. Never mind the fact that these waste injection wells have been in use for decades. That is nonsense as far as I believe because there is, like you said, a fault line running through that area. This event has just given the anti-fracking nuts something to run with and exploit.
34 posted on 03/26/2013 9:27:40 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: SMGFan

This is pure plain HORESPIT.

As I recall the epicenter was much deeper than any well in that area, injection or otherwise. The whole area has never had a well much deeper than 7,000’ and anybody that wants to check can go to the Oklahoma Corporation Commission well records to check.

According to USGS the thing was 1.7 miles deep. There isn’t a well in that area that deep. Maybe one mile deep but that is about it for that part of the state.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006klz.php

The quake at Sparks, Ok in 2011 was 3.2 miles deep.

http://www.news9.com/story/15989611/36-magnitude-quake-recorded-tuesday-afternoon

The Nemaha Ridge, a buried granite mountain range terminates just west of the quake location and has been associated with quakes for a long long time. I looked for a geologic cross section but it is late and I am tired. I’ll bet a lot though that it isn’t 10,000’ to basement in Pottawatomie County. Injection fluid does not go down either. There are a lot of these worms that say it Might but it isn’t very dang likely.

This area has had earthquakes before and it is close enough to the Nemaha Ridge for that to be the source. It has always been seismically active.

Fine, we’ll quit shipping oil and gas and all the damn Yankees can freakin’ walk and freeze but stay the hell out of Oklahoma and Texas.


35 posted on 03/26/2013 9:35:42 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: jurroppi1

The other common term for it is NIH.....people find money for a certain study, they study and viola the come up with that answer hence they get more money. If you question them it is the same answer.....it isn’t invented here so it can’t be any good. It is not true science. It is sloppy piggies wallowing in gubmint bucks


36 posted on 03/26/2013 9:46:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SMGFan

Bull Shiite!!!


37 posted on 03/26/2013 11:08:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Federal and School Scientist, what a hoot. Helen Keller could see through that agenda.


38 posted on 03/27/2013 2:16:18 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: SMGFan; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: ...a team of university and federal scientists concluded...

Well, if you go by the track record of these... 'university and federal scientists'--

The cow did... jump over the moon.

39 posted on 03/27/2013 2:35:59 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Nifster

yup, it is pernicious. It’s too bad I see it so much whilst working for a major medical device manufacturer.

Of course the adjectives used for those who don’t agree with logical fallacy around here are things like: confrontational, aggressive, absolutist, etc...

The irony can be pretty thick.


40 posted on 03/27/2013 4:56:13 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Army Air Corps

Title does not match the end results in the article:

“In a statement, the Oklahoma Geological Survey said the interpretation that best fits the data is the quake “was the result of natural causes” but needs further study. The state officials cited new 3-D seismic data, a time lag between injection and the quakes , and the orientation of the faults to say it was natural not induced.”


41 posted on 03/27/2013 5:12:14 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Chode
yeah, right...

Who IS that sarcastic cutie?

42 posted on 03/27/2013 7:24:58 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SMGFan; Chode; Bender2; Prospero

In 1908, an alien spacecraft exploded at Tunguska, Russia;

The Roswell alien spacecraft was a rescue mission for the Tunguska crash, but it in turn crashed in the New Mexico desert;

A piece of alien technology was discovered by a teenager named Elvis Presley;

Presley turned it over the the Nazi scientists of Operation Paperclip;

The Nazi scientists reverse-engineered it and developed the Internet, GMO’s, and especially chemtrail technology, which turn pulls neutrinos from the air and powers the HAARP array;

The HAARP array caused the earthquake on the order of George W. Bush, who personally detonated it from his secret Skull and Bones lair beneath the campus of UT-Austin.

There, it all makes sense, Mulder and Scully were right, The Truth Is Out There, man!


43 posted on 03/27/2013 7:30:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: DAC21

I hear yuh ....

LOL


44 posted on 03/27/2013 7:41:09 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jurroppi1

I know...and I am usually one of those that gets called those names. I mean after all how dare I ask for something as unreasonable as real data???


45 posted on 03/27/2013 9:52:19 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

46 posted on 03/27/2013 10:34:58 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: JimRed
Jennifer Lawrence of the Hunger Games, and yes she is...
47 posted on 03/27/2013 2:47:06 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Old Sarge
Shhhhhhhh... no talking out of school
48 posted on 03/27/2013 2:51:45 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jurroppi1

Just another example of why I love Scott Adams


49 posted on 03/27/2013 3:58:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SMGFan

!


50 posted on 03/28/2013 10:54:04 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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