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Greatest Generation the Most Entitled
Townhall.com ^ | March 7, 2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 03/07/2013 5:44:14 AM PST by Kaslin

One thing nearly everybody agrees upon is that the "sequester" is a silly sideshow to the real challenge facing America: unsustainable spending on entitlements. Ironies abound. Democrats, with large support from young people, tend to believe that we must build on the legacy bequeathed to us by the New Deal and the Great Society. Republicans, who marshaled considerable support from older voters in their so-far losing battle against Obamacare, argue that we need to start fresh.

Perhaps it's time for both sides to consider an underappreciated fact of American life: The system we are trying to perpetuate was created for the explicit benefit of the so-called greatest generation, the most coddled and cared for cohort in American history.

I don't mean to belittle or demean the heroic efforts and sacrifices of those who served in World War II. But the idea that a whole generation deserves credit for what only some did is little more than an attempt to buy glory on the cheap. One of the egalitarian precepts that all Americans are supposed to subscribe to is the idea that one citizen isn't more worthy than another, simply by accident of birth. If you stormed the beaches of Normandy, you are due praise and honor. If you were simply born the same year as those who stormed the beaches, you're no more deserving of praise than someone born of any other generation.

Moreover, government was bending to the needs of the greatest generation -- for good and ill -- long before they did anything great. Historians William Strauss and Neil Howe made this argument in their famous 1991 opus "Generations." Before Tom Brokaw dubbed them the "greatest generation," Howe and Strauss called them the "GI Generation."

"The initials GI can stand for two things -- 'general issue' and 'government issue' -- and this generation's life cycle has stood squarely for both," they wrote. "The GI life cycle has shown an extraordinary association with the growth of modern government activity, much of it directed toward whatever phase of life they occupied."

When GIs were children, the White House held its first Conference on Children, and Congress created the first U.S. Children's Bureau and passed the first federal child labor law. They benefited from government-run schools in large numbers, and after the war from the aptly named GI Bill. And when the first wave of GIs approached old age, Howe and Strauss noted, the White House held its first Conference on Aging. Congress created the National Institute on Aging and passed the first federal age discrimination law.

"The entire modern growth in government spending has coincided with the duration of their adult life cycle," the authors noted.

Also, the GI Generation was deferential to authority long before anyone was asked to fight the Nazis. It was the most "uniformed generation" in U.S. history, the historians wrote. Nearly all the scouting organizations -- Boy Scouts (1910), Girl Scouts (1912), 4-H Clubs (1914) -- were launched to accommodate the GI.

Despite nostalgia for the New Deal, people forget how militaristic it was. President Franklin D. Roosevelt conceived of the New Deal as a "moral equivalent of war" effort and promised to use the tactics of World War I to fight the Depression. Nearly all the New Deal agencies were modeled on the war agencies of the Wilson administration. The Civilian Conservation Corps turned 3 million men into a paramilitary "tree army."

The National Recovery Administration, run by former general Hugh "Iron Pants" Johnson, aimed to organize the economy along the lines of war mobilization. On Sept. 13, 1933, he organized the largest parade New York had ever seen. Tens of thousands of workers marched in military fashion celebrating the mascot of the NRA, the "Blue Eagle." Similar militaristic pageants were held across the country.

FDR explained the purpose of the Blue Eagle in a fireside chat: "In war, in the gloom of night attack," he crooned, "soldiers wear a bright badge on their shoulders to be sure that comrades do not fire on comrades. On that principle, those who cooperate in this program must know each other at a glance. That is why we have provided a badge of honor for this purpose."

I have neither the space nor the inclination to pronounce on what was good or bad about all this. But as Washington grapples with the legacy costs of the "greatest generation" -- including the unsustainable burden of paying the retirement bills for the GIs' supremely entitled children, the Baby Boomers, perhaps it is at least worth recognizing that the government and the culture designed to benefit one generation has come at the cost of those that come after it.


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To: ansel12

Eisenhower was not a president during the Vietnam war, which JFK started, President Eisenhower merely had advisers there just like we do in many dangerous places without engaging in a war.


51 posted on 03/07/2013 3:51:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Red Boots

“we trusted out government, who sold us a lie.”

It is unfortunate that the Greatest Generation is not better at math. Any small amount of curiosity or investigation would have revealed to this wealthy and sophisticated group that the gravy train can not chug along forever. Instead, as fiercely as some of its members fought the Japanese at Iwo Jima, the Greatest Generation still combats any attempt to raise the retirement age or reform budget-busting Medicare.


52 posted on 03/07/2013 4:39:05 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: Kaslin
Political movements do well to keep their distance from smart*ss journalists peddling clever half-truths.
53 posted on 03/07/2013 5:00:21 PM PST by x
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To: Kaslin
There have been a lot of these sickening columns from alleged "conservatives" lately.

AFTER the moochers, bums, deadbeats, and parasites who comprise the Democrat party's voter base have been cut off, THEN talk to me about cutting "entitlements" for people who, for their entire working lives, paid their own freight as well as the freight for the moochers, bums, deadbeats, and parasites.

Until then, STFU.

54 posted on 03/07/2013 5:18:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: heye2monn
Instead, as fiercely as some of its members fought the Japanese at Iwo Jima, the Greatest Generation still combats any attempt to raise the retirement age or reform budget-busting Medicare.

They are the most republican voting age group, and the republicans are the ones pushing for change.

The young are the most supportive of democrats.

55 posted on 03/07/2013 5:45:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Lancey Howard

IMHO, your post #54 says it all.


56 posted on 03/07/2013 7:31:32 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Kaslin
This segregating by generation is not helpful.

We should be focusing on solutions only.

57 posted on 03/07/2013 7:56:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
The so-called "Greatest Generation" is almost all dead. That includes my parents who I thought were pretty great.

But what is the article about? Yes, the Federal Government grew greatly when they were young people. Go back a generation before that to find the people who voted for FDR and the New Deal.

But it is a moot point now. The New Deal did some damage, but the real damage was done under LBJ and his so called 'Great Society' in the 60s and then under Nixon, Ford and Carter who continued funding that toxic blend in the 70s.

It really had little to do with budgetary or fiscal matters then. Yes, we could afford to waste resources then just to be politically correct.

But the result of that political and social insanity was the wasting of several generations of people and creating several generations of permanent 'underclass' Americans who really have little hope and even less incentive to change their positions.

We are in a box created they will say with the "best of intentions" but those intentions also happened to serve the interests and careers of the politicians back then.

We all hate Bean Counters, but there are times when the Bean Counters should be listened to.

58 posted on 03/07/2013 8:18:04 PM PST by Ditto
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To: 9YearLurker
No, he is quite expressly separating those out who risked their lives from those who simply were born in the same generation.

I was a child during WW2...turned 6 just before it ended.

This article made me mad. If he had lived during that time, I think he would have realized it was a war that everybody contributed to in some way...even if it was "only" giving up a dad for a few years or forever. Dads were scarce as were alot of things. I don't remember how it worked but things were rationed and required stamps...coffee and sugar were rationed I remember.

I remember victory gardens, candy that came in paper tanks, rocks were our jacks, we collected newspapers in our wagons and took it to the neighborhood fire station everyweek, kids had little military uniforms. There were air raids that were scary to kids and the worst thing we could call somebody was "Hitler."

Of course I didn't make a big contribution but for those of us who experienced the war, every man, woman, and child was involved in some way because the country was involved.

Soon after the war ended, I remember my mother being excited because rubber balls were being sold in downtown Houston and we went to get me one. I didn't have a clue what a rubber ball was, had never seen one, and they were made out of tire rubber and barely bounced. Didn't matter because we didn't know the differnce...and certainly didn't feel deprived.

I don't know why he's in a snit over the "greatest generation" now because there aren't many left anyway! It was the grandchildren of the GG that never grew up and left home!

59 posted on 03/07/2013 9:07:12 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Kaslin

Sure, just as soon as you admit how much Townhall pays you for reposting their garbage articles.


60 posted on 03/08/2013 5:40:55 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke
Is anyone holding a gun at your little bitty head and forces you to read them?
61 posted on 03/08/2013 5:51:29 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Kinda hard to miss when you pollute FR with all of their trash articles. Still waiting for you to let us all know how much Townhall compensates you for your “work” on their behalf.


62 posted on 03/08/2013 6:15:02 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: lonestar

I agree that the article is misguided on several levels, including, as you point out, that the ‘Greatest Generation’—a moniker that nobody would have dared trot out while the WWI vets were still around—is largely gone now.

What he’s getting to re: our elderly bankrupting the country with the level of, particularly, healthcare benefits that they are receiving from the government is a fair one, but it is put into poor context here.


63 posted on 03/08/2013 7:16:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I think the illegals and non-citizens should be addressed first.


64 posted on 03/08/2013 9:59:55 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

They’re chump change compared to Medicare costs, but they should be addressed. Unfortunately, the GOP is rushing to legalize and make citizens/voters out of them all, despite the majority taking some sort of welfare support at least three generations in.


65 posted on 03/08/2013 10:29:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
I've always thought Medicare patients should pay a samll co-payment for office calls. Too many are quick to go to a doctor for an earache, etc, that could be treated OTC. I social outing! I have a friend who goes to the doctor at least twice a month.

Medicaid paitents are worse. They call an ambulance to go to ER with a headache.

A LOT of waste could be cut out...including fraud!

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66 posted on 03/08/2013 10:55:36 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Yes—though the really big bills come from Medicare.


67 posted on 03/08/2013 11:07:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
I have a friend who has a chronic condition but she is called into her docs office when it is NOT necessary. More than once he has prescribed Rx that caused side effects that required 3 more Rx.

Two months ago he gave her an anti-biotic that gave her diarhea (sp?) that required a $1600 Rx to fix.

He orders so many blood tests that I accuse her of needing a transfusion...in which case he could test other people's blood while he's at it.!

68 posted on 03/08/2013 11:17:32 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Kaslin

The very first thing that needs to be done to cut expenses is to get every single illegal off of every program (which means getting them out of the country) this would save tons of money. Illegals are a drain on social programs, education, health care, law enforcement, courts, jails and prisons, and many more budgets. Illegals are the elephant in the room that few are talking about.

Getting illegals out of the equation will not solve all the financial problems of course, but would be a good start and I am not willing to cut our citizens like seniors, veterans, etc., until we do get serious about the illegal drain. Any solution that does not address the illegal issue is not a serious solution.


69 posted on 03/08/2013 11:19:31 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: lonestar

I see the same sort of thing with my parents. They’re in for quarterly visits and the billing for everything is just amazing.


70 posted on 03/08/2013 11:19:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
BTW, I am having to go to retina specialists now for shots in my eyes. I have macular degeneration in both eyes.

That is something I don't enjoy and Medicare doesn't pay for the shots.

71 posted on 03/08/2013 11:35:30 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I might have a terminal illness now and don't know it but I think too much doctoring is what's wrong with most people. I go to the doctor when I NEED to...which isn't often.

I fell at the airport waiting to board a plane for the Bahamas and went on as planned. I swam with dolphins; took Aleve 3X daily. When I got home I did go to an Urgent Care center because it was obvious by then I had a broken shoulder. I did need PT for a few weeks but got over it. I was 72 when that happened.

72 posted on 03/08/2013 12:04:03 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

My shoulder hurts just reading that!

But you’re right. Most healthy people don’t need annual physicals, for example, and a nurse at a CVS or Walgreen’s could do most basic screening for a fraction of the cost in our regular medical system.

If people would simply not smoke or eat themselves obese and be moderately active we could probably cut our healthcare costs in half.


73 posted on 03/08/2013 1:28:29 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ansel12

Republican leaders and ideologues like Paul Ryan support reining in entitlements. But the Greatest Generation, while supporting the party for other reasons, doesn’t agree. Old people, no matter what their political persuasion, defend Social Security. It’s called the Third Rail of Politics. Don’t touch it!

Here are the results from a recent Pew Poll —

Elderly people who favor keeping Social Security and Medicare at current levels outnumber their counterparts who think the deficit is more important by a 3-to-1 margin, highlighting the generational support for the nation’s two largest social programs.

The elderly, who supported Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by a 56-44 percent margin, are more likely to support the social programs that the Republicans pledged to change; those from 18 to 19, who voted for Obama by a 60-37 percent margin, are more concerned about deficit reduction than their elders.


74 posted on 03/09/2013 12:20:21 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

The most accurate poll is the vote, the republicans run on changing the system and win the old people’s vote.

Democrats fight that change and win the young people’s vote.

I would worry more about the people voting against your agenda , rather than about the people voting with you.


75 posted on 03/09/2013 1:11:28 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12

Sure the oldsters vote with Republicans, that’s good. I’ll give them credit for that. But when Republicans get to Congress and actually start proposing Social Security reforms, the reforms go nowhere in committee or on the floor, due to strong opposition even from their own party. The oldsters make their voice heard. NO!

That’s why NOTHING has happened on Social Security for many years, since Reagan was in office and raised the retirement age quite gradually.


76 posted on 03/09/2013 1:49:38 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

I disagree, Republicans lose because while the old people are voting for them, the young are throwing them out.

You might want to look at who you are losing elections to, and who are throwing you out of office and blame them, not the people voting for you.

It isn’t the most republican voting age group who is blocking the republicans, it is the most anti-republican age groups who are doing that.


77 posted on 03/09/2013 2:14:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12

In 1996, the Greatest Generation stood by and allowed President Clinton to demagogue Newt Gingrich on cutting entitlements and throwing granny out into the snow. If these supposedly hard-core Republicans had supported entitlement reform, Clinton would not have won reelection. I blame the Greatest Generation for that.


78 posted on 03/10/2013 10:38:14 AM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

I think you mean that women and Catholics elected Clinton in 1996, thereby being the enemies to reform and Gingrich, and conservatism.

Clinton got 54% of the female vote that year, and 43% of men.

Clinton got 53% of the Catholic vote, and 41% of the Protestant vote.

Clinton won 53% of the under 30 vote, and 48% in all other age groups.


79 posted on 03/10/2013 11:52:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Yeah, Lyin’ Bill got the airhead chicks, who thought that he cared more about them than their own worthless husbands.

But the Greatest Generation, both men and women, stood silent while Bill abused the truth on entitlements.


80 posted on 03/10/2013 12:02:37 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Read post 79, and every one of my posts to you.

There is something weird going on in your head.


81 posted on 03/10/2013 1:06:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

Post 79 is irrelevant, as are most of your posts.

The Greatest Generation, with all its power, prestige and numbers, should have spoken up about the need to save Social Security and Medicare. If that group had defended Republican reformers like Newt Gingich, just as the Marines defended their country at Iwo Jima, Clinton would have run for cover. The scared female voters would have voted for the Republicans as the true saviors of entitlements.


82 posted on 03/10/2013 1:52:27 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn
If that group had defended Republican reformers like Newt Gingich, just as the Marines defended their country at Iwo Jima, Clinton would have run for cover.

You really don't care who votes republican and who votes democrat, something weird is going on in your head.

Post 79 tells you the facts, women, Catholics, and the under 30 were Clinton's support group.

Judging by the hate and rage and dishonesty of your posts, my guess is that you might fit all three of those categories, no wonder you want to ignore the facts.

83 posted on 03/10/2013 2:59:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

So you agree with my point that the Greatest Generation should publicly support reforms in entitlements? How do you feel about raising the retirement age?


84 posted on 03/11/2013 5:38:07 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

If you support republican efforts for reform, then learn to attack the democrat voters, not the republican voters.

Post 79 tells you the facts, women, Catholics, and the under 30 were Clinton’s support group.

Judging by the hate and rage and dishonesty of your posts, my guess is that you might fit all three of those categories, no wonder you want to ignore the facts.


85 posted on 03/11/2013 5:50:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: heye2monn
It is unfortunate that the Greatest Generation is not better at math. Any small amount of curiosity or investigation would have revealed to this wealthy and sophisticated group that the gravy train can not chug along forever. Instead, as fiercely as some of its members fought the Japanese at Iwo Jima, the Greatest Generation still combats any attempt to raise the retirement age or reform budget-busting Medicare.

yes, what you say is quite true. They do resist knowing it and that is a great fault of theirs. Did you know that the woman who created it, and was sec of labor at the time, was made a saint of the Episcopal church ? Not for any degree of union which is generally why saints become saints, but because she created social security. So, for them, it really was a kind of religion. Maybe that's why it is so difficult to let go of it.

Anyway, I think the truth does need to be said, over and over, but the animosity towards that generation is what I cringe over. If our country and our culture is to come out of this, we must speak the truth in love, and not in animosity.

86 posted on 03/12/2013 7:45:08 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Red Boots

Well stated, Red Boots. I’m sure ansell2 agrees, too.

As for the disreputable Episcopal Church, it is a travesty of the faith (what’s left of it) to canonize the founder of Social Security. Entitlements are bankrupting our nation, and could bring us all down, saints and otherwise.


87 posted on 03/12/2013 5:31:51 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: ansel12

Well stated, Red Boots. I’m sure ansell2 agrees, too.

As for the disreputable Episcopal Church, it is a travesty of the faith (what’s left of it) to canonize the founder of Social Security. Entitlements are bankrupting our nation, and could bring us all down, saints and otherwise.


88 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:39 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Evidently you don’t even read my posts.

If you support republican efforts for reform, then learn to attack the democrat voters, not the republican voters.

Post 79 tells you the facts, women, Catholics, and the under 30 were Clinton’s support group.

Judging by the hate and rage and dishonesty of your posts, my guess is that you might fit all three of those categories, no wonder you want to ignore the facts.


89 posted on 03/12/2013 5:43:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

It’s called telling the truth, my friend. Tell the truth both sides. Tell the truth the dimwitted Dems who oppose entitlement reform. But also tell the truth to you and your elderly buddies. Deep down you feel guilty for living high on the hog for so long.

Our nation is drowning in entitlements. The cost of Social Security and Medicare are astronomical. Why don’t you and the rest of the Greatest Generation recognize that?


90 posted on 03/13/2013 3:44:42 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

It is called you being a nutcase.

A good sign of that is you thinking that you are posting to a member of that age group.

Another is you being absolutely ignorant of how the age groups actually vote.

Don’t attack the age group that votes republican, attack the ones that votes against them.


91 posted on 03/13/2013 4:05:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Kaslin

The “greatest generation” is dying now. WWII vets are all on their last legs. My father was 16 in 45 when he joined and would be in his eighties today. Not many left.

The GG did not want to pay for things that needed paying and instead let SS turn into a disabilty system.

I am not sure they were the greatest, but frankly the boomers are the worst yet.


92 posted on 03/13/2013 4:13:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: ansel12

Don’t you think reform would be a lot easier if the Greatest Generation admitted the truth about themselves? Both sides, Republicans and Democrats, must admit the truth about entitlements.


93 posted on 03/13/2013 4:19:58 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Reform would be easier if everyone voted with the old people, not like the young Catholics, and women.


94 posted on 03/13/2013 4:22:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Chickensoup
I am not sure they were the greatest, but frankly the boomers are the worst yet.

When the boomers (the Reagan Generation) finally emerged in politics, they checked the left, and started moving the country right, I hope you enjoy your restored second amendment rights, and the revived conservatism of the last 30 years.

I'm surprised that you prefer the generation that voted 66% for Obama and who is the most liberal in history and who will never vote republican.

95 posted on 03/13/2013 4:26:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12

So you think the old people would vote for reform?


96 posted on 03/13/2013 4:41:30 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: ansel12

I dont prefer either one of them. Boomers also have dismantled the public school system and have built the dysfuctional system that encourages parasiteism. They have developed horrific university systems, and have helped move all our manufactoring off shore. I am a boomer and I was there.


97 posted on 03/13/2013 4:52:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Kaslin
So long as neither political party is willing to even propose eliminating (or even cutting) Social Security and Medicare benefits, nothing will be accomplished. Proposals to change things in 10 years or in 2050 are just phony attempts to make it appear as if the proponents want to tackle this problem. Passing laws today that don't affect the world today are nothing more than a cruel fraud. The rules ten years from now or in 2050 will be determined at those later dates.

So, I am forced to sadly conclude that none of our politicians have any desire to attempt to change Social Security or Medicare. Yes, the seniors are in charge and as their numbers grow it will only get worse.

Social Security and Medicare are both totally unconstitutional, but none of our politicians are prepared to tell the truth about that or the necessary consequences (repeal). Not one.

98 posted on 03/13/2013 5:05:43 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Chickensoup

America is second in manufacturing, I think that happened in 2011, they were always first before that.


99 posted on 03/13/2013 5:09:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: heye2monn

You really just have no idea of how the different age groups vote do you?

For the umpteenth time, the over 65 vote is the most republican vote in America, the under 30 vote is the most anti-republican vote in America.

If you support reform, then make an effort to find out who votes with you and against you.


100 posted on 03/13/2013 5:12:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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