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Rand Paul: The Feds claim they can drone strike you when having dinner
Politico ^ | KEVIN CIRILLI

Posted on 03/06/2013 7:37:15 AM PST by JohnPDuncan

Sen. Rand Paul blasted Attorney General Eric Holder’s announcement that drone strikes could be carried out on U.S. soil under extreme circumstances, with the Kentucky Republican suggesting that means Americans could be killed while they’re “eating dinner” or “at a cafe.”

“The thing about the drone strike program is we’re not talking about someone’s actively attacking America — we’re not talking about planes flying into the World Trade Center,” Paul said on Fox News on Tuesday. “What we’re talking about is you’re eating dinner in your house, you’re eating at a cafe or you’re walking down the road.”

He continued: “That’s when these drone strikes can occur. It’s not about people involved in combat — it’s about people who they think might be.”

On Tuesday, Holder responded to a letter Paul and other senators had sent inquiring about whether the government could use drones domestically.

“The question you have posed is entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President will ever have to confront,” Holder responded.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: drones; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror

1 posted on 03/06/2013 7:37:26 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

Or, alternatively, when you’re sitting on the john dropping a deuce.


2 posted on 03/06/2013 7:39:49 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Is this part of a first Lady’s meal plan?


3 posted on 03/06/2013 7:42:29 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

I refuse to accept these fools and criminals as a legitamate gub mint.


4 posted on 03/06/2013 7:42:39 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: JohnPDuncan

When you add this to it:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/05/Homeland-Security-Drones-Designed-To-Identify-Civilians-Carrying-Guns

And add to this the information that Homeland Security is purchasing 2,700 armoured vehicles identical to what our troops have in Afghanistan and the direction in which our nation is going is plain to see.

Homeland Security is going to be the downfall of freedom as we have known it and Napolitano is the wicked witch who will accelerate its implementation.

Homeland Security should be de-funded immediately.


5 posted on 03/06/2013 7:49:08 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

If there is a federal gun ban could they use drones to take out people practicing their natural rights who are carrying self defense devices?


6 posted on 03/06/2013 7:59:02 AM PST by GraceG
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To: JohnPDuncan

Seeing what happens when the police “accidentally” break into the “wrong” house and blast the old man with at TV remote into the next world, and then apologize to the family and get away with murder, when a federal drone “accidentally” kills innocent citizens they’ll be told go $h!t in a hat.


7 posted on 03/06/2013 8:01:46 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: JohnPDuncan

When a “government” expresses the “right” to kill citizens, absent due process, that “government” ceases to be legitimate and itself becomes a target of the citizens.


8 posted on 03/06/2013 8:05:48 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: GraceG

What is a terrorist?

One who is a danger to the government and the populace.

All they have to do is decide someone is that.

Bam...Zap.

Danger no more.

If you want to really be scared out of your wits, read the following statement from wikipedia which is retrieved when you google “what is the definition of terrorist”.

There is neither an academic nor an international legal consensus regarding the definition of the term “terrorism”.[1][2] Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions of “terrorism”. Moreover, the international community has been slow to formulate a universally agreed upon, legally binding definition of this crime. These difficulties arise from the fact that the term “terrorism” is politically and emotionally charged.[3]

So bottom line: There is no cut and dried definition, it is whatever you want to make of it.

It is whatever you want to make of it.

Now that is scary when you consider what we have in the white house, what we have as attorney general and that Napolitano is completely mad.


9 posted on 03/06/2013 8:10:43 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

No need to worry now, someone will be coming along soon to tell you that this is just a routine purchase by the government, and you are just being paranoid, and you have nothing to fear from big brother (uh, I mean the government). If a conspiracy theorist can dream something up, that means that someone in government has already done a study on it, weighed and measured it, and wrote a report on it. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, and don’t fall into the mis-information trap.


10 posted on 03/06/2013 8:11:37 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
The legislature controls the spending of the DHS. Outrage from our elected representatives over what the DHS purchases and what it may be used for and whom it will be used against is the sworn job of the legislators.

Co-equal branches with checks and balances has not been replaced by two HMNIC's. (Head marxist n.....as in charge)

I guess those spending bills had to be passed to find out what was in them too.

11 posted on 03/06/2013 8:12:08 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Arm_Bears
How progressives, liberals, and other merry bands of utopian quest squads can square their ideology with the actual deeds of this administartion is impossible.

Are they even awake? Don't they see what's coming? What's next? A federal used tire disposal system involving a crowd, a can of kerosene, match, and a tire stand with views they don't share?

Do they realize this is their hero building the death squads before their eyes?

12 posted on 03/06/2013 8:19:07 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

This probably won’t get much attention here from the lower case “free” Republic types. They respect power.


13 posted on 03/06/2013 8:21:28 AM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: JohnPDuncan

Well, that’s it. I’m changing “Dinner” to “Supper” at my house.


14 posted on 03/06/2013 8:21:29 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Joe Boucher
as do most of us, the fraud in WH makes the entire government illegitimate. They know we know that and that clearly is why they want cart blanch authority to kill us for the sake of their own security.
15 posted on 03/06/2013 8:22:40 AM PST by drypowder
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To: blackdog
And that $50,000,000 spent on TSA uniforms on the eve of sequestration had to originate in legislative budget authority as well.

I have to pay each week for my work uniform rental. I suggest legislation coming up enjoy an amendment or rider which requires TSA workers pay the $12 per week for the rental of our $50,000,000 worth of uniforms. They are our property not theirs. If they don't like it, go work in the private sector.

16 posted on 03/06/2013 8:24:57 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

My online store “Drone Obscurity Protection Kit” is on special this week with free shipping. It’s only $399. It comes with a one year money back guarantee benefit managed by Colonial Penn for only pennies a day.


17 posted on 03/06/2013 8:29:30 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Or, alternatively, when you’re sitting on the john dropping a deuce.

I prefer to call that “depositing an Obama”.

/sarc?
//not sarc?


18 posted on 03/06/2013 9:20:50 AM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: old curmudgeon
What is a terrorist? One who is a danger to the government and the populace.

Almost right.

One who is a danger to the government and the populace.

19 posted on 03/06/2013 9:41:22 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: blackdog
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20 posted on 03/06/2013 9:59:28 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: old curmudgeon

> What is a terrorist?<

Just read the drivel that came out yesterday from the Southern Poverty Law Center as to who the terrorist threat is. It’s you and me, Friend, and everyone else on this site. And I would dare say their timing was perfect considering everything else we’ve learned in the last few weeks.


21 posted on 03/06/2013 10:02:46 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: JohnPDuncan
How is it that flying Predators on missions of this type over US soil isn't a violation of the Posse Commitatus (sp?) act?

Mark

22 posted on 03/06/2013 10:05:50 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: from occupied ga

Bingo!

You make the point that it is a term with many definitions and obumbler can make it mean anything he wants.

And never forget Napolitano’s infamous list of potential terrorists; veterans, TEA party members, etc.

I suspect posters on FR can be found on a list as well.


23 posted on 03/06/2013 10:22:44 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon
I suspect posters on FR can be found on a list as well.

Probably near the top

24 posted on 03/06/2013 10:29:48 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: VRWCarea51
You my friend take humor to a whole new high standard.

I am humbled.

25 posted on 03/06/2013 10:30:10 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: from occupied ga

We’ll be “progressing” to hit squads on drone operators and their killer bosses and their families. Not to mention a mess of downed drones.

The Government killing Americans on US soil outside the judical system and sentence of death, is war. The killers and their handlers become soldiers in that war. Wouldn’t the Marxists just love that.


26 posted on 03/06/2013 10:47:06 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: from occupied ga

Maybe he’ll name us by Title while he fillibusters:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/


27 posted on 03/06/2013 10:49:50 AM PST by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

BTTT


28 posted on 03/06/2013 4:40:00 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: GraceG

Do bears...?


29 posted on 03/06/2013 9:18:00 PM PST by TXnMA (REMEMBER the Alamo! REMEMBER Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: VRWCarea51

Your “Drone Alert Necklace” and that second “testimonial” are priceless! I’m still laughing...

Mind if I use them elsewhere?


30 posted on 03/06/2013 10:21:49 PM PST by TXnMA (REMEMBER the Alamo! REMEMBER Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: SaraJohnson
We’ll be “progressing” to hit squads on drone operators and their killer bosses and their families.

Sure. If you can find out who they are and then if you can actually find them. I don't know where drone operations are controlled, but I'm sure they're on multiple military bases surrounded by pretty tight security. I'd say that is still symmetric thinking. We won't win by attacking to their strengths.

The government is an entity consisting of millions of people doing millions of jobs. When it goes rogue, every single government employee becomes an enemy (as if they weren't already). If tens of thousands of us can't think like Timothy McVeigh, then Arbeit Macht Frei with 0bama's goons running the showers.

31 posted on 03/07/2013 5:05:10 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: TXnMA

feel Free, I am going to work on a product ad photo soon. ;)


32 posted on 03/07/2013 8:29:45 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: from occupied ga

Not sure they can run their war on America from military bases. I think they are planning to use private contractors.


33 posted on 03/07/2013 8:45:32 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: I want the USA back

Seeing what happens when the police “accidentally” break into the “wrong” house...


Same thing that happens when the swat teams invade the wrong house and terrorize and/or shoot a citizen and/or their family members and dog.

Absolutely nothing.


34 posted on 03/07/2013 9:39:06 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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