Skip to comments.DOJ: Children Do Not Need—and Have No Right to--Mothers
Posted on 03/03/2013 4:58:50 PM PST by Sub-Driver
DOJ: Children Do Not Needand Have No Right to--Mothers March 3, 2013 By Terence P. Jeffrey
Georgetown Law School. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari) (CNSNews.com) - The Obama Justice Department is arguing in the United States Supreme Court that children do not need mothers.
The Justice Departments argument on the superfluity of motherhood is presented in a brief the Obama administration filed in the case of Hollingsworth v. Perry, which challenges the constitutionality of Proposition 8, the California ballot initiative that amended Californias Constitution to say that marriage involves only one man and one woman.
The Justice Department presented its conclusions about parenthood in rebutting an argument made by proponents of Proposition 8 that the traditional two-parent family, led by both a mother and a father, was the ideal place, determined even by nature itself, to raise a child.
The Obama administration argues this is not true. It argues that children need neither a father nor a mother and that having two fathers or two mothers is just as good as having one of each.
The [California] Voter Guide arguably offered a distinct but related child-rearing justification for Proposition 8: 'the best situation for a child is to be raised by a married mother and father, said the administrations brief submitted to the court by Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr.
As an initial matter, no sound basis exists for concluding that same-sex couples who have committed to marriage are anything other than fully capable of responsible parenting and child-rearing, the Department of Justice told the court. To the contrary, many leading medical, psychological, and social-welfare organizations have issued policy statements opposing restrictions on gay and lesbian parenting based on their conclusion, supported by numerous scientific studies, that...
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>> Yeah, thats why Mommy! is so often heard from the severely injured, well into adulthood.
Yeah, it's scary, but it can't last. The type of system the hard left is trying to create, is completely unsustainable, and has crashed and burned everywhere it's ever been tried.
Eventually, the thing just breaks when the productive class quits producing. The people revolt, and the adults return to power. From that point forward, the public rejects leftist ideals as the destructive policies they truly are.
I think we're witnessing these children playing out their deepest fantasies in real life right now, but their dream will soon come to an end, as all juvenile dreams do.
Considering all that has been going on in our country under democrat rule, I have trouble imagining what Satan would do differently.
The Beast must be proud.
Sweden is pressuring mothers to take their 18 month old children to day care. This should be expected to be coming here soon, Sweden has been the testing ground for many radical ideas for a long time.
To the contrary, many leading medical, psychological, and social-welfare organizations have issued policy statements opposing restrictions on gay and lesbian parenting based on their conclusion, supported by numerous scientific studies, that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are as likely to be well adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents.
The weight of the scientific literature strongly supports the view that same-sex parents are just as capable as opposite-sex parents, says the administration.
>>>>neverdem has the refutation of this lie laid out completely. I pray one of the Supreme Court clerks is freeping.
It seems to me that the only way we’re going to dispense with modern feminism is to give women what they want.... good and hard.
1. Forced family planning, ala China. Tom Friedman of the NYT is all warm and fuzzy about this. eg, a woman comes into an abortion clinic for her second abortion... how about we throw in a free tubal ligation on top of that for her?
2. Given equal rights to men under “domestic violence” acts. At least 40% of “domestic violence” is perpetrated by women. I’d like to see the presumption that a man started the crap come to an end in the law, and the difference in treatment under the law come to an end. I’d like to see women who take out restraining orders against men lose their rights to own guns just as the men do, and at the same time - because a RO isn’t worth anything without reciprocation.
3. Where is the presumption that the mother is the better parent rooted in reality? If the husband has the higher income and is a more stable individual, then he should be granted primary custody on no other basis than these.
I’m not in a “pit.” I’m happy to give people what they claim they want... good and hard. Usually after so doing, people start to STFU and stop clamoring for legislation, which is my ultimate goal.
For example: Women in infantry. I’m all for it. Make it mandatory that X% of female volunteers serve in infantry MOS’s. Force them to hump ammo, mortar base plates, serve on tank crews and get down in the mud and slush to repair tank tracks. Give them what they want, good and hard. Force them to enroll for conscription... or lose their college aid from the Feds. Give them the full measure of what they claim they want. After about 10 years, I’d fully expect the feminists to STFU, because the results will be in and counted, and they won’t be pretty.
The object here is should be to marginalize and discredit the modern screeching harpies that call themselves “feminists” for all time.
I agree, my FRiend.
I was raised and taught the difference between good and evil and being an optimist believe that good will prevail.
There's no doubt at all that evil is in the hearts of Obama and this administration.
Far beyond sickening. Our own government, arguing that “scientific studies” show two daddies or two mommies is just as good as Mom & Dad. What has happened to our nation? God save us.
The Nazis and Soviet communists hid behind “scientific studies” to justify their evils, too. Can a US genocide be that many years away? Unlike such previous genocides, this one won’t be directed at intellectuals and homosexuals, the infirm, the retarded or the elderly. It will be directed at God fearing Christian conservatives who cherish liberty and freedom.
This is sickening. Pray for families. Destroying families was and is part of the socialist/communist plan funded by Soros.
It took 70 years from the Bolshevik revolution to the fall of communism in Soviet Russia. During those 70 years, tens of millions perished and everybody lived in fear of the state and its totally arbitrary murder. Even today, the spirit of the people who lived under totalitarian rule is broken and difficult to restore.
You may be right that “it can’t last.” But 7 decades is a long time. We need to accelerate the end of this horrible evil.
They should be very careful what they wish for.
Their warped universe can’t continue forever. Even if they manage to enslave the world and remove all natural human goodness then there may still come a challenge that their hate and insanity can’t conquer. The world would be annihilated and that would be the end of it.
The rest of us won’t live to see it.
(And what are breasts there for, anyway?)
The right is afraid to say the emperor is naked.
“Heather has NO Mommies” : bet the feminazis and womynz didn’t see this one coming while they were chortling over the destruction of the male role in the nuclear family.
When do we start hanging these people.
Moms are always where babies turn to for comfort. Sixty years ago there was a study in which baby monkeys were raised in drab sterile cages. One group had nothing in the cage other than a food dish & water. The other group the same, but also soft cuddly doll mom replacement. Results, the ones with the mom doll were more happy and normal. The others were scared nuts and bit themselves.
Those government nurseries will turn out damaged humans who will not be productive citizens.
It’s a “Brave New World” out there
“It is only the Communists who think they can refute hundreds of generations of hard-wiring with an edict—and that is why they are doomed to failure. Nature prevails.”
Correct except the “hundreds” of generations” time line. Since before Austropithicines began the long walk from Olduvai Gorge to the present, some 125 thousand generation have passed.
Commies, Libtards, snd Crevos have trouble with grasping the amount of time involved in evolutionary discussions. After all, when the basic unit on the yardstick is 1,000,000 years creatures with a life span of less than 100 years can be forgiven their failure to comprehend that enormous span of time.
Primates ‘mother’ their young, humans also, and a wise bet is that long into the future, humans will still ‘mother’ their young.
If you think about it, Communism has been slowly growing in this country for the last 70 years. Thankfully we haven't suffered from its ills like the Russians did, but I agree with you. We've had more than enough of it, and need to banish it once and for all.
It's that, or go the way of the former USSR, which I don't think will happen here. There'll be a bloody war with a whole lotta dead Commies if it comes to that.
More California, this time about Prop 8. Thanks Sub-Driver.
Soon, same-sex couples will be the preferred parents and eligible for welfare.
“How far we have fallen when our government argues this abomination.”
When the concept that the state defines the institution became normal for many, it was only a matter of time. To the state, marriage is just what judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public think it is at any one time. And that’s it.
Pope Leo XIII warned about the dangers of the state’s involvement 130 years ago, in the context of civil divorce and remarriage. If someone would have told him about the state recognizing ‘gay marriage’ 130 years later, his mitre would have shot off his head. Makes you wonder what the state will consider as being a marriage 130 years from now.
Even the Borg destroy their own after awhile...lol
Their acts defy the very nature of men; their ways will do them in, in the end. They are just too stupid to realize it.
> For some reason our side plays defense all the time instead of going after the left and be pro active.
It’s simple. If you want to kill a snake cut off it’s head.
Is there no evil to which this administration will not sink?
That's already happened. There's a show called Lockup that goes behind prison walls, they interview prisoners and guards, it shows what daily life is like, how the inmates got there, etc. Most of the inmates are damaged beyond repair and recividism is high because they just don't have the skills to survive in normal society.
Very true. What's most unfortunate, is that leftists force everyone else to be dragged kicking and screaming down their trail of misery and death.
Who knows if they even realize their horrific error when they reach the inevitable end of that road?
Russia has a 13% flat tax and kids can pray in school.
I don't know much about Russia at all but this I know.
And they must be destroyed...there is no changing their thinking.
Children need both a heterosexual mother and a heterosexual father. Each sex brings their particular characteristics to the formation of the well rounded growth of a child. As the story goes, it wasn’t Adam and Steve in the Garden of Eden, it was Adam and Eve.
Totally agree with you.
We're finding out why. It's like Obamacare. Let's pass it and find out what's in it.
Your kids' schoolbooks are going to be filled with stories about Daddy and daddy going to visit other dads in San Francisco.
The sky's the limit.
God help us.
We're conservatives, not utopians.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Live and let live. Leave well enough alone.
We understand the limitations of human nature. We're not out to reshape humanity, except by persuasion and conversion of heart.
But you're right. We have to overcome this reflex and learn to be proactive in reversing the war against society.
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What will happen, with a government this evil? Obviously the status quo cannot continue for very long, with the government - supposed to be the agency protecting our rights under the Constitution - is the very personification of immorality, evil and tyranny, and represents the very lowest of vices and crimes.
Oh not this SH*T again!
Proves Obama really hated his white mommy who didn’t late term abort him.
Srry about the triplets. ANy mods around that could take one or two off? I forgot about using my trick - hit “post”, count to about 15, then hit the back button and refresh the thread, and voila - just one ping.
...from Hawaii, Kenya and Connecticut.