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Elderly Woman Dies After Nurse Refuses to Give Her CPR
abc ^ | 3/3/13 | Alyssa Newcomb

Posted on 03/03/2013 2:19:31 PM PST by Nachum

A 911 dispatcher pleaded with a nurse at a Bakersfield, Calif., senior living facility to save the life of an elderly woman by giving her CPR, but the nurse said policy did not allow her to, according to a newly released audiotape of the call.

"Is there anybody there that's willing to help this lady and not let her die?" the dispatcher asked in a recording of the 911 call released by the Bakersfield Fire Department.

"Not at this time," the nurse said.

The incident unfolded on Tuesday when 87-year-old Lorraine Bayless collapsed at Glenwood Gardens, a senior living facility in Bakersfield.

In the seven-minute, 16-second recording, the nurse told the dispatcher it was against the facility's policy for employees to perform CPR on residents.

With every passing second, Bayless' chances of survival were diminishing. The dispatcher's tone turned desperate.

"Anybody there can do CPR. Give them the phone please. I understand if your facility is not willing to do that. Give the phone to that passerby," the dispatcher said. "This woman is not breathing enough. She is going to die if we don't get this started."

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cpr; dies; elderly; woman
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To: Gay State Conservative

Assisted living is not a nursing home. The one my uncle is in will not give him meds on a daily basis. They will provide no medical assistance. This is spelled out very clearly at the outset.

Our family has been through the gauntlet from assisted living to full care nursing homes to hospice care.

I know this whole episode sounds cold...but as long as we keep shipping our old folks out to the rest home because they are inconvenient, this is what happens.


51 posted on 03/03/2013 3:22:46 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Nachum

I hope the family takes action to sue the owner. They are scared to do anything that makes them liable. I understand how this crap got started. But I can’t imagine a worker sitting there and doing nothing.


52 posted on 03/03/2013 3:37:09 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

The family has said the staff were correct to respect the woman’s DNR. They don’t plan to sue and probably have no grounds to do so.


53 posted on 03/03/2013 3:38:45 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: heartwood
I cannot imagine working in a place that tells me not to do CPR on someone who wants it done, although I will honor a DNR

What bugs me about DNRs is that patient's wishes can change as their condition changes. It's easy to state that you want to be DNR when you don't envision being one any time soon. More than a few times I heard patients express wishes that were contrary to their DNR orders. Sometimes their verbal requests were honored. Sometimes not.

Wonder who called 911 in this story. Someone told the dispatcher that the patient wasn't "breathing enough." If the woman collapsed, perhaps it was another resident or visitor who called. Can you imagine the trauma of watching someone dying in front of you and staff not rendering assistance? Sounds like the dispatcher was aware that others were present since she asked that the phone be given to someone nearby. I hope the poor woman in this story lost consciousness as soon as she collapsed. May she rest in peace.

54 posted on 03/03/2013 3:42:27 PM PST by PeevedPatriot
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To: PLMerite

I have told my kids I want full code. A lot of people don’t.


55 posted on 03/03/2013 3:47:57 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: GrootheWanderer
The family has said the staff were correct to respect the woman’s DNR. They don’t plan to sue and probably have no grounds to do so.

Did you see that in another article? The linked article makes no mention of a DNR or any statement from the family.

56 posted on 03/03/2013 3:51:34 PM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

I linked to a Daily Mail article on the first page. It has all the details.


57 posted on 03/03/2013 3:54:16 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Nachum

I wonder if that elderly woman has any sons like me?


58 posted on 03/03/2013 3:56:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: oldbrowser

Sued in the past is the correct answer. It’s likely someone broke a rib giving CPR and became a defendant along with the nursing home. I recall one nursing home that had a problem with government inspectors. One told them to remove the non-slip stickers in the tubs and showers—would cause foot fungus. Another told them to keep the stickers and avoid broken hips. Let’s see: foot fungus or broken hip? broken rib or death? Such tough decisions.


59 posted on 03/03/2013 3:58:36 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Nachum

I had several relatives who lived into their late 90s and into their 100s, my favorite aunt living to age 99. If this had happened to her when she was 87, we would all have missed out on 12 years of her life, during which she continued to give joy and inspiration to many.

That’s just criminal.


60 posted on 03/03/2013 4:02:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Nachum

If there was a DNR...this sounds ok...if NO DNR...there could be problems...I had to sign a DNR for my grandmother when she was about 90 .... 90 yr olds who have been laying in a nursing home for 10 years would probably have their ribs broken by resucitation...my grandmother had been there 10 years, didn’t know me, and I didn’t know what else to do.


61 posted on 03/03/2013 4:41:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Nachum

CPR is against their policy!

An Obama facility for sure.

I’ll wager their guests/patients were NOT aware of this policy!


62 posted on 03/03/2013 4:46:32 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Where did you read that Mrs. Bayless had a DNR? I read in a couple places that she did not.


63 posted on 03/03/2013 4:49:05 PM PST by heartwood
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To: heartwood

I posted this on the front page earlier.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287442/Glenwood-Gardens-Dispatchers-desperate-plea-nurse-save-woman-87-stopped-breathing-refused.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


64 posted on 03/03/2013 5:00:25 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

Well, that changes everything. Why didn’t the nurse tell the dispatcher Mrs. Bayless had a DNR?

If the facility’s policy is for its employees not to do CPR on anyone even if they don’t have a DNR, that’s wrong.

I know my own mother doesn’t want CPR - both her parents died suddenly of massive heart attacks and that’s how she’d like to go. But she’s not that old yet and may God give us more years together.

I hate doing CPR on people who are terminally ill or very old - it’s brutal. Frail ribs snapping, vomit welling up...if someone had a DNR and she were past the point of treating, it would be an honor to sit with her and hold her hand and pray for a peaceful passing.


65 posted on 03/03/2013 5:04:05 PM PST by heartwood
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To: heartwood

Oh, and if it were my own family member or friend, I wouldn’t call EMS until some time after she had died. Let the soul depart before a whole lot of strangers come tromping in and talking and doing their official business.


66 posted on 03/03/2013 5:08:19 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Bob; GeronL

What about the daily mail article? Said there was a DNR.


67 posted on 03/03/2013 5:33:37 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Nachum

Murder. The “nurse” needs to be shot. I hope her name is tracked down and advertised. Wouldn’t want to be a leader in genocide if I were a amoral liberal in the US.

Jury nullification...


68 posted on 03/03/2013 5:37:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: WildHighlander57

wierd, some journolist was wrong then. lol


69 posted on 03/03/2013 6:28:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Then why call 911?


70 posted on 03/04/2013 4:22:26 AM PST by annelizly
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To: annelizly

Don’t know why 911 was called but this is a common occurence and should have been a nonstory...sadly. Those that are ready to ‘touch the face of God’ should be allowed to do so peacefully.


71 posted on 03/04/2013 7:27:15 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (“By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.”....Ben Franklin)
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To: annelizly

Don’t know why 911 was called but this is a common occurence and should have been a nonstory...sadly. Those that are ready to ‘touch the face of God’ should be allowed to do so peacefully.


72 posted on 03/04/2013 7:30:02 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (“By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.”....Ben Franklin)
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To: ilovesarah2012
IF they are DNR, do you call 911?
73 posted on 03/04/2013 2:29:03 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I really don’t know but will try to find out.


74 posted on 03/04/2013 2:46:01 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Nachum

You can call me almost anything....

But don’t call me late for DNR.


75 posted on 03/04/2013 2:54:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Nachum

Who needs Medicare to pay $3k a month for this ?
If you’re (presumably) paying for an on-site nurse, why ?

Edith down the hall can call 911 and watch you die for free.


76 posted on 03/04/2013 3:58:46 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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