Skip to comments.Poll shows 61 percent of Californians back gay marriage
Posted on 03/01/2013 9:07:35 AM PST by OKRA2012
(Reuters) - California voters favor same-sex marriage by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, a poll showed on Thursday, a month before the U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear arguments over a gay marriage ban approved by the state's residents in 2008.
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Gay Marriage lost four times in Maine. Last year it passed. Now they call it “Settled Law”.
If 61% of Californians truly want gay marriage and vote for it at the ballot box, then more power to them. We live in a federal system and that is their choice. My issue with this always has been how the Left tries to use judges and the federal government to force gay marriage on a population that does not want it, which has been pretty much every state up until recently.
Remember, back in the 90’s, when gay marriage seemed like a senseless abstraction?
San Francisco, San Jose, Hollywood, I am not surprised.
The up side, they will not reproduce themselves.
Not directly, but they’ll adopt and convert.
I voted for Prop 8, but wouldn’t another election be the “will of the people” too? While I hate some results, I have no problem with “the will of the people” even if they change their mind later.
Having said that, the propaganda from the Left on this issue must be met with truth and facts.
I do not have much hope for Prop 8 to be upheld by the SCOTUS as I suspect that Kennedy and Roberts will vote along with the liberals to overturn.
And while overturning California’s Prop 8 will not directly impact other states’ Pro Family laws, the Justices will draw a roadmap to show how every other Pro Family Marriage law can be overturned.
It is now meaningless, and this is no longer a functioning republic.
Forty seven years ago the Hippies declared marriage dead. Old fashioned, only a piece of paper! Living together was enough if you were sincere.
Today marriage is the most important thing two people can engage in, BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE GAY!
Sure 61% just happen to want it while the Supreme Court is deciding, even though they voted against it in a recent election.
The issue before the SC is whether the voters have a right to decide. As someone else posted, if California approves it in the next vote that’s up to them.
So 61% support gay marriage but it lost by popular vote. That would mean at least 50% didn’t support it.
So where did the bogus number come from?
Where did they do the poll? A bathhouse in San Francisco?
Opinion polling is usually flawed on this issue, for a number of reasons. But we have actual votes we can look at.
Prop. 22, CAs first marriage amendment, passed by 61% in 2000, the same % NC passed theirs by last year, so it is reasonable to think NC is 12 years or so behind CA on the issue. CA’s Prop. 8 passed by 52% in 2008, swinging 9% in 8 years. The thing with this is if our masters in black robes deign to uphold it, they will simply try another popular vote to repeal it. All they need is 50% + 1 vote, seems like some sort of repeal on prop.8 5 years after it originally passed would probably pass now.
That’s the danger, to the state in the modern era, marriage is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of voting public think it should be at any one time. And that’s it.
So where did the bogus number come from?
People not voting and another younger bunch of folks turning of age and registering to vote.
This is a ballot box non issue. The next time it is put on the ballot in California it will easily pass.
SO, if someone “backs” a gay marriage, is that like a threesome?
It would be better for the voters to repeal Prop 8 than for the SCOTUS to overturn.
But, as it is now, the dominos are falling and it is just a matter of time when all states have gay marriage.
The ones that only passed their amendments in the 50% ranges might fail now, those that passed then in the 60% ranges will last a little longer, and so on. I think the highest % for passage was Mississippi with a whopping 86% in 2004, so that will stand for a while if they stick to the popular vote. Of course there could also be an acceleration of the seeming trend, I could see that happening if enough states accept ‘gay marriage’.
Based on a Field Poll?
Long term, this issue is going to be a loser for the GOP, I suggest we drop it.
You can flame if you want, but I think culturally, at this point there is nothing you can really do about it. The trends are clear and strong. Its not even about "giving up", its just, already over.
"before I leave this earth"
Where are you planning on heading afterward? Sounds like the same place as the "61%"?
The results of the Prop 8 approval should not be threatened simply because the people of today change their mind in the issue.
However, there is a huge gulf between the views of the young and old of the gay marriage issue and the problem is that old people are leaving us while younger voters enter the ranks of voters every day.
but reality will hit those younger people sooner or later
I am not all that confident that more 50% of the people that hold liberal views in social issue become more conservative on those issues between the ages of 45 and 60.
How can it be that 61% of the electorate believes that gay marriage is okay, yet a majority of the electorate voted for prop. 8
A bit of a long shot, since I know nothing of California voters. I do know Northern Michigan people though. There is the "Bradley Effect" and the "Bandwagon Effect" though I doubt whether it is the latter.
Simply put, it is well known that in some matters, the person polled will say what he/she thinks the pollster would approve of. I find that in matters of so-called race and homosexuality a number of people are scared of being thought intolerant. Their views privately often differ. Just a thought here.