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Ex-Bears QB Miller: Religion a barrier for gays in locker room
Chicago Tribune ^ | February 26, 2013

Posted on 02/26/2013 5:59:37 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Former Chicago Bears quarterback Jim Miller cited religion Tuesday in arguing that an openly gay player would not be welcomed in NFL locker rooms.

“There are some religions that are just not going to accept a gay individual in the locker room,” Miller told "The McNeil and Spiegel Show" on WSCR-AM 670. “So now, are you as an organization going to bring that element into your locker room and think everything is going to be OK?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: faith; football; gays; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; lockerroom; miller; nfl; religion; sports
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Asked his stance on whether gays should be accepted, Miller said, “I could care less..."

He could care less? Not couldn't? What a hater.

1 posted on 02/26/2013 5:59:50 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

In ObamAmerica each team will have to certify that it has queer players.....


2 posted on 02/26/2013 6:01:35 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: ConservativeStatement
"So now, are you as an organization going to bring that element into your locker room...

That "element"... (snicker).

3 posted on 02/26/2013 6:07:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ConservativeStatement
Dumb sob.

4 posted on 02/26/2013 6:10:39 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I've all but given up my crusade to rid the world of fools; there are, I found, just too many.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

And to think this fool was once a Steeler.


5 posted on 02/26/2013 6:11:06 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: clintonh8r

This is all taking me back to 1966 when I headed off to college, a naive lightweight - I wanted to be a Physical Education teacher, or so I thought. I walked into the girl’s locker room during summer orientation, and was shocked at the number of jock women staring me down. Was I jumping to false conclusions? Who knows, but I immediately left the locker room and went to the counselor’s office to change my major.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 6:11:20 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Past Your Eyes

OK, OK, it’s the caring grammarians now.

“I could care less” may be irony.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 6:12:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Asked his stance on whether gays should be accepted, Miller said, “I could care less..."

Actually, the correct phrase is: "I could care less, but I'd have to be dead".

8 posted on 02/26/2013 6:21:01 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Creates divisiveness on a football team, and leads to a losing attitude, but is NOT supposed to do so in combat?

What’s wrong with this picture....


9 posted on 02/26/2013 6:23:01 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ConservativeStatement

If some flaming queer QB threw for 4500 yards in a season and won the Super Bowl, no one would care and everyone in the locker room would manage.


10 posted on 02/26/2013 6:27:06 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: ConservativeStatement
It is only natural that a faction, an idea or thought, or a force with followers will try to push against the status quo.

Drug addicts (i.e. pot smokers) want to be seen as simply seeking an alternative reality. Gays and lesbians just want to be seen as normal. Pederasts want to become just the child-friend neighbors next door.

Who can blame them?

And who are their enemies?

Society/culture at large, those who believe in God--any god perhaps.

This is the standard tug of war that has gone on forever. All the way back to ancient Greece and before.

The problem is that this is a war, an ancient war, between the Truth and the LIE.

It's that same old war.

I listened on the radio today as Dick Cheney praised gay marriage because his daughter is gay. Well, okay...that is one way evil gains a foothold.

My son or daughter is gay...I love them, therefore I must approve of their sin.

And this is where the rubber hits the road. This is the razor's edge.

The problem is religion.

The problem is right and wrong.

And in the end, a person must choose.

We must choose right (i.e. God) or we must settle on something less (the love of our children--right or wrong).

If we choose our children (right or wrong), we relinquish our role as leaders--as parents.

We give in to our children even though our children are leading many to sin...to death.

To offer a loved one THE choice (and to tell them the truth about the consequences)...to offer them a chance to choose an eternity of Godliness over an eternity of sin...and to tell them of your disapproval of their path and why. What greater act can a man perform for his children or for God?

But to tell a child that their act of sin is OK...that, in fact, God is wrong.

Wow...I would not want to make that mistake.

11 posted on 02/26/2013 6:27:24 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: OKRA2012

Look at all the FReepers who are Steeler fans.
The owner gave so much money to Baraq he got an ambassador post.


12 posted on 02/26/2013 6:29:17 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Sioux-san

And yet, you have a picture of Xena on your profile page. LOL.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 6:34:35 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: rabidralph

and there’s the rub ;o)...I never knew that Xena was a lesbian icon - I rarely saw the show, but I sure do think she is coooool - HAH!


14 posted on 02/26/2013 6:44:33 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

LOL.


15 posted on 02/26/2013 6:50:52 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“There are some religions that are just not going to accept a gay individual in the locker room”

This doesn’t even make sense. What is he complaining about? That two guys should have sex in plain view of others? Is that it?

Can’t figure out this brilliant gem...


16 posted on 02/26/2013 7:00:38 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: ConservativeStatement

Go Captains! (Waterford Kettering...Michigan...about 25 miles nw of Detroit...Miller’s high school...also Kirk Gibson and Pat LaFontaine)


17 posted on 02/26/2013 7:00:43 PM PST by PGalt
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To: rabidralph

Haven’t looked at my profile in a long time - I updated the pics with some new cuties!


18 posted on 02/26/2013 7:04:32 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: nascarnation

“Look at all the FReepers who are Steeler fans.
The owner gave so much money to Baraq he got an ambassador post.”
*

BINGO! You can add that the QB is a rapist. FR Steelers fans ignore that glaring fact when one brings it up. Gets their panties in a twist.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 7:05:31 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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20 posted on 02/26/2013 7:08:49 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ConservativeStatement

freedom of association and freedom of thought is evil, I guess.

*rolls eyes*


21 posted on 02/26/2013 7:10:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Religion is not as much a barrier as are non gay males. It might come as a shock to many, but gays aren’t welcome amogsn’t men
22 posted on 02/26/2013 7:13:07 PM PST by Figment
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To: OKRA2012

The Rams managed to function when they had Roman Gabriel and didn’t even go to the Super Bowl


23 posted on 02/26/2013 7:16:14 PM PST by Figment
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To: Sioux-san

Awesome!


24 posted on 02/26/2013 7:33:19 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: ConservativeStatement

i cannot believe that football is going to be turned into pink wearing whiny little pc pussies.

everything must be destroyed apparently. well maybe we all won’t waste so much time on things that really aren’t that important in the grand scheme of things.


25 posted on 02/26/2013 7:41:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
i cannot believe that football is going to be turned into pink wearing whiny little pc pussies.


26 posted on 02/26/2013 8:02:13 PM PST by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

GAYS have taken over EVERYTHING in our country....EVERYTHING!! It’s DISGUSTING!


27 posted on 02/27/2013 1:58:40 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Cry me a river, Miller./
I'll take religion.
28 posted on 02/27/2013 6:50:53 AM PST by Amagi (Obama is never so animated as when he is assaulting the Constitution.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Drug addicts (i.e. pot smokers) want to be seen as simply seeking an alternative reality. [...] The problem is right and wrong.

Is smoking pot more wrong than drinking alcohol?

29 posted on 02/27/2013 8:24:37 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Though I have done both, I believe that pot has a much more mind altering effect than alcohol...possibly due to its oil soluble nature and enduring effects.

That said, alcohol is not particularly innocent.

Bottom line, I have seen pot and alcohol damage the careers, fortunes, and futures of many, but in different ways.

BTW, if you smoke a joint at night, you still be slightly mentally impaired the next day. Your memory won't be quite as good as usual and your motivation will be reduced. Coffee might help but you are still impaired.

A couple of beers will have basically no effect.

30 posted on 02/27/2013 9:04:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Is smoking pot more wrong than drinking alcohol?

I believe that pot has a much more mind altering effect than alcohol

It's not the drug but the dose ... you can get a mild buzz from either drug, or at higher doses you can get wrecked from either drug.

BTW, if you smoke a joint at night, you still be slightly mentally impaired the next day. Your memory won't be quite as good as usual and your motivation will be reduced. Coffee might help but you are still impaired.

A couple of beers will have basically no effect.

Again, it's not the drug but the dose - drink enough and you'll still be impaired the next morning.

So back to the question: Is smoking pot more wrong than drinking alcohol?

31 posted on 02/27/2013 9:41:56 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Is smoking pot more wrong than drinking alcohol?

As you know they are different and not easily comparable. Alcohol leaves the body quickly, but THC is oil soluble and remains in fat cells for quite a long time. So it is not just a matter of dosage.

As to which is more wrong, that depends on how they affect the user.

That said, both should be absolute verboten for young people.

32 posted on 02/27/2013 9:57:50 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

When you ask which is “more wrong?” you are asking for a value judgment. So it is important logically that you modify your request to include “in terms of what” is one more wrong than another (i.e. are you asking which is more damaging to one’s health or which (in my opinion) would God consider more or less wrong or which would society consider more or less wrong?).


33 posted on 02/27/2013 10:07:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
THC is oil soluble and remains in fat cells for quite a long time.

When it's in fat cells it's not attaching to neuroreceptors, so has no relevance to impairment.

34 posted on 02/27/2013 10:44:06 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: RoosterRedux
it is important logically that you modify your request to include “in terms of what” is one more wrong than another

In terms of your post #11's saying of pot but not saying of alcohol, "The problem is right and wrong."

35 posted on 02/27/2013 10:47:05 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
When it's in fat cells it's not attaching to neuroreceptors, so has no relevance to impairment.

Not true.

THC that has been absorbed by fat cells is released into the blood over time (some of which is reabsorbed into fat cells). That which is released into the blood from fat cells affects those neuroreceptors that bind to THC.

36 posted on 02/27/2013 11:07:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
When it's in fat cells it's not attaching to neuroreceptors, so has no relevance to impairment.

Not true.

THC that has been absorbed by fat cells is released into the blood over time

At which point it's no longer in the fat cells - so my statement is correct.

There is no evidence that this slowly released THC causes any impairment; you might as well worry about getting high from a poppy-seed bagel.

37 posted on 02/27/2013 11:30:10 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Are you an addict?


38 posted on 02/27/2013 11:37:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Are you an addict?

I haven't used pot in about 20 years. Why do you ask? And when will you explain why in post #11 you said of pot but not of alcohol, "The problem is right and wrong."

39 posted on 02/27/2013 11:41:47 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Why do you ask?

Because you are defensive to the point of argumentativeness.

As to post #11, I was speaking of pot only, not as to its relative comparability to alcohol. You brought up the issue of alcohol.

Ask me an honest question and I will try my best to give my opinion.

As to right and wrong, I was speaking of spiritual right and wrong. The use of any drug, including alcohol, IMHO, would be wrong if it caused or somehow encouraged sinfulness in the life of a believer.

As to your own opinions and value judgments, I leave them to you.

Gotta go now, sorry I can't stay and chat. Have a good one.

40 posted on 02/27/2013 11:53:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: RoosterRedux
The use of any drug, including alcohol, IMHO, would be wrong if it caused or somehow encouraged sinfulness in the life of a believer.

So it's true of any drug including alcohol that "The problem is right and wrong" if and only if it causes or somehow encourages sinfulness in the life of a believer? That I can agree with. Can we further agree that both pot and alcohol sometimes but not always cause or encourage sinfulness in the life of a believer?

41 posted on 02/27/2013 11:59:12 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: RoosterRedux

So if someone argues with you, it justifies slander. So nice to meet you, Jesus.


42 posted on 02/27/2013 12:03:23 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The problem is you insist upon conflating your religious perspective (boiled down to "sins should be illegal") with the law of the land in a nation state with freedom of religion, individual unalienable right to Liberty and pursue of happiness, and, wherein, the State's only interest in licensing what it wrongly calls "marriage" is in property rights and who'll take responsibility.
43 posted on 02/27/2013 7:27:51 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: newzjunkey

Wrong Mr Junkie.

Marriage is chiefly a “religious” contract, having little or no other meaning. Government has no business in marriage; it is a violation of the first amendment free exercise clause.


44 posted on 02/27/2013 7:31:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Who is he hating?


45 posted on 02/27/2013 7:36:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Past Your Eyes

I could care less is correct; it’s a sarcastic comment, and being over specific would destroy the sarcasm.

Some are simply not sufficiently cogent to grasp those nuances I guess.


46 posted on 02/27/2013 7:41:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
It was a poke at his use of “could” instead of “couldn't” as others later mentioned.
47 posted on 02/27/2013 8:53:06 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"I could care less is incorrect; it’s a sarcastic comment made in ignorance.

Fixed.

48 posted on 02/28/2013 3:51:12 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I've all but given up my crusade to rid the world of fools; there are, I found, just too many.)
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The problem is you insist upon conflating your religious perspective (boiled down to "sins should be illegal")...

No I didn't.

Nowhere did I say "sins" should be illegal.

I merely said that there is a war (and there always has been) between the forces or good and evil, right and wrong.

As to gay marriage, there are civil unions already available. What the Gay Agenda wants is a declaration by all of society including religion, that sodomy is normal.

Sodomy is not normal or healthy...it is a mental disorder.

49 posted on 02/28/2013 5:09:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Cognizant” is, I believe, the word which you intended.


50 posted on 02/28/2013 6:04:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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