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: What happened to the Golden State?
Washington Examiner ^ | February 24, 2013 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 02/25/2013 6:45:43 PM PST by Hojczyk

California is no longer a model that other states want to or should emulate. It currently has the nation's third highest unemployment rate, its highest poverty rate and more than one-third of the nation's welfare recipients.

To make a long story short, the same political constituencies that have made Brown's Democratic Party invincible at the ballot box have also made the state unable to compete economically.

These unions also make it impossible to improve how government services are delivered to taxpayers. As a result, while California once had the most admired education system in the nation, it now ranks near the bottom in almost every measured educational category.

The state's powerful environmental lobby has secured a slew of green energy regulations, including strict clean air rules, the nation's first carbon cap-and-trade program and an ambitious renewable energy mandate. As a result, energy prices have shot up, consumers now have less to spend on everything else they need to survive, and many manufacturers can't stay profitable in the state

Over the next four days, The Washington Examiner will look at what ails California, and how it got to its current state of failure. We will look at the state's out-of-control budget and debt, the powerful union interests driving it, the decline of its education system, the failure of its "clean energy" initiatives and the environmental regulations that are wrecking the economy in many regions of the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: foreverfree
84 Olympics might have been near the end, but it was already sliding down. Went to one day's events with my dad, still remember the neighbohoods you drove through to find parking. A very Amish community, with all the usual welcoming stares from the gainfully employed lounging around.

Not a place you would want to walk around on foot, though not so many years before, you might have gotten away with it.

21 posted on 02/25/2013 7:30:55 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Hojczyk
Everyone should leave CA...There are no jobs, and the state and local governments are broke...Even the freebees are drying up....It's kinda like your federal government...LOL!

Listen, if everyone leaves, I'll stay and try and fix it, but it will take time...Someday I'll send word when everything is A-OK...oh yeah..

22 posted on 02/25/2013 7:37:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hojczyk
Look at the religious breakdown of the vote, and this was in an election heavy with pro-life issues.

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23 posted on 02/25/2013 7:48:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: dragnet2

If the few remaining conservatives left that would be okay, since it would help electorally in the states they go to. But the rest need to stay where they are.


24 posted on 02/25/2013 7:49:38 PM PST by Aetius
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To: foreverfree; doorgunner69
but I like to think the 1984 Olympics was L.A.'s last hurrah.

You guys are ob obviously tourists.

Just look at the crime stats for example.. Crime in the 1980s was *substantially* higher than it is now. In fact, LA's per capita crime rates have been dropping dramatically for many years and are generally much lower than other major cities in other states.

Ya don't have to believe me, just look it up.

25 posted on 02/25/2013 7:50:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Listen, if everyone leaves, I'll stay and try and fix it, but it will take time...

After you restore the California I grew up in, I'll consider coming back.

26 posted on 02/25/2013 7:50:32 PM PST by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives.)
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To: vette6387

These people are tourist...Don’t sweat it...

BTW, not only is Boxer from the east coast, but so is Pelosi, etc, etc...The east coast totally infect the west coast many years ago...It’s the price of life in paradise...

Besides, the entire country is now in the same boat...Actually, it’s much much worse off. Wait till the rest find out just how bad off.


27 posted on 02/25/2013 7:54:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hojczyk

What Happened to the Golden State?

Editorial in the San Francisco Chronicle:

Californians’ shifting views on illegal immigration
Sunday, February 24, 2013

In 1994, California voters passed Proposition 187, which sought to deny basic services to illegal immigrants. The controversial initiative (which was never implemented, as the courts declared it to be unconstitutional) was the canary in the coal mine for the rest of the nation on the topic of illegal immigration.

Within a decade, states and counties all over the nation were competing to see who could create the harshest anti-immigrant proposal.

But the latest Field Poll should alert the rest of the country about how swiftly the voters can change their minds on illegal immigration - and what that shift will mean for the nation’s politics.

The newest Field Poll shows that a whopping 90 percent of California voters now support offering a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have lived for years in the United States and have stayed out of trouble.

There’s resounding support (76 percent) for guest-worker programs and for offering more visas to highly skilled immigrants (73 percent).

California voters are now so open to immigration that even still-controversial ideas, such as offering driver’s licenses to undocumented residents, get a thumbs-up - a 52 to 43 percent majority now favors issuing the licenses.

Sixty percent of voters believe that undocumented students should be allowed to pay the same tuition rates as other residents to attend public universities.

These are startling numbers. In many ways, they are good news - they show that California’s voters have grown more humane. After living and working among undocumented immigrants for two decades, they accept that the people who have made their lives here deserve a place here, paperwork or not.

While Californians still dislike illegal immigration - the poll also notes that 65 percent of voters support increasing the number of federal agents on the U.S.-Mexico border, and 57 percent want strong penalties for those who hire illegal immigrants - they’ve clearly made a distinction between immigration as an issue and the immigrants themselves.

On a state level, this has been great for the Democratic Party. Although Proposition 187 propelled Republican governor Pete Wilson to re-election in 1994, support of anti-immigration positions became an albatross for the GOP in the ensuing decades. Today, two-thirds of the seats in both houses of the Legislature are held by Democrats. And as California’s demographics continue to shift away from older, whiter voters and toward a younger, more diverse electorate, the Republican Party may find itself more and more marginalized.

On a national level, the Republican Party is beginning to realize that it may suffer the same fate, which is why it’s trying so desperately to rehabilitate its image with Latino voters.

But California’s experience suggests that this rehabilitation will take more than delivering the same message in Spanish: It’s going to take a wholesale rethinking of many policies, including how the country handles the 11 million undocumented people already living within our borders. A path to citizenship isn’t just smart policy - in the long run, it’s smart politics, too.


28 posted on 02/25/2013 7:59:16 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: Hojczyk

Yes California was once Paradise! The Dem’s have had total control about 23 years now. It don’t take long. Prior a long string of Republican guidance. Yes there was small breaks, BUTT not enough to trash it like it is.

Not until the Dem’s took total control could they implement their Detroit remodeling project.


29 posted on 02/25/2013 7:59:32 PM PST by DeweyShootem
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To: Hojczyk

“California is no longer a model that other states want to or should emulate.”

Who the heck are you talking about? CA is right on the glide path planned for the entire nation.


30 posted on 02/25/2013 8:00:15 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Hojczyk

It seems that Conn Carroll isn’t going to mention unending mass immigration as one of the reasons for the state’s decline, and therefore the series of articles will at best be incomplete, and at worst worthless.

The white population in California is unfortunately not conservative overall, so even w/o the booming Hispanic and Asian populations the state would still most likely be in serious trouble, but the continual importation of future Democrats only makes mattes worse. There is likely no hope for California because the population is increasingly made up of people who are never going to vote Republican, despite the fantasies of people like Rubio and the entire Bush family.


31 posted on 02/25/2013 8:02:05 PM PST by Aetius
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To: artichokegrower

These “undocumented” people hate our country and have no interest in becoming responsible citizens. They had no notion of citizenship from the countries they fled and they have none for this country either.


32 posted on 02/25/2013 8:03:17 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Hojczyk

Easy - it turned “Brown”.


33 posted on 02/25/2013 8:04:14 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: artichokegrower

Big deal...BTW, half that article is bull cheet.

On the other hand, look at the so-called big red states like Texas...

Read it and weep..

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Study: 70% of Texas’ illegal immigrant families receive welfare

In Texas, 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children

Overall, Texas tied with California and New York for the second highest immigrant welfare rates behind Arizona.

Texas showed 61 percent of households headed by an immigrant utilizing at least one program compared to the 42 percent of Texas natives on welfare.

“This is partly due to the large share of immigrants with low levels of education and their resulting low incomes — not their legal status or an unwillingness to work,” Steve Camorata, Director of Research at CIS, said.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/04/study-70-of-texas-illegal-immigrant-families-receive-welfare/

___________________________________________________________

Yuk yuk..


34 posted on 02/25/2013 8:06:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
CA is right on the glide path planned for the entire nation.

The tourist in other states are a bit slow...They're already there...They just don't know it. Probably why some of their governors are in CA begging for money and biz.

See #34.

35 posted on 02/25/2013 8:09:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hojczyk
What happened to the Golden State?

Socialism

36 posted on 02/25/2013 8:17:49 PM PST by PGalt
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To: artichokegrower

That article you provided does get one thing right; for the GOP to win over Hispanics and Asians it would take more than just caving and going along with liberal comprehensive immigration reform. The reason Hispanics in particular vote Democrat is because they are a natural Democrat constituency. They vote Democrat because they are a liberal population on most issues. They overwhelmingly support Obamacare. They support ever more gun control and have little regard for the Second Amendment. They look unfavorably on capitalism. They support bigger government. The Democrats would be hard pressed to design a more perfect voter. The evidence suggest that 25-30% of the latinos are consistently open to voting Republican. And even if the GOP can consistently repeat Bush’s 40% in 2004 (the figure so often repeated as the magic number for Republicans), then simple math says that as the Hispanic electorate grows, the net loss for the GOP will grow as well.

Yet somehow most of the GOP leadership and elite conservative voices promote the utter nonsense that Hispanics are natural Republicans/conservatives, who would flock to us if only we’d become liberal on immigration. They push the garbage that if only we surrender on this one issue, then Hispanics will suddenly forget all the other issues on which they prefer the Democrats.

Do the Rubios and Bushes really believe the crap they push? I find it hard to believe they can really believe such fantasies. They should be honest and tell us that immigration will just be the first of many issues we have to go left on in order to win over immigrant communities.


37 posted on 02/25/2013 8:28:16 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Hojczyk
What happened to the Golden State?

Mental deficient ignoramuses discovered a strategy to get elected.
Hundreds of them. An endless supply.

The End.

38 posted on 02/25/2013 8:37:25 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Hojczyk
These unions also make it impossible to improve how government services are delivered to taxpayers. As a result, while California once had the most admired education system in the nation, it now ranks near the bottom in almost every measured educational category.

See my previous post, #38.
The perfect storm.

39 posted on 02/25/2013 8:41:47 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: doc1019

It is now the rust state.


40 posted on 02/25/2013 8:58:14 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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