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House approves high-capacity magazine ban, despite GOP objections
kdvr.com ^ | February 15, 2013 | Eli Stokols

Posted on 02/15/2013 8:35:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

DENVER — The first of four Democratic gun proposals to be heard Friday, a ban on high-capacity magazines, cleared the statehouse on an initial voice vote around 3 p.m. after a six-hour debate.

“Over the course of the last four or five years, we’ve had 34 mass shootings using high capacity magazines,” said Rep. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora, whose district includes the Century 16 theater where 12 people were killed in a mass shooting last July.

“That is the common thread we see in these massacres. They’re using these high-capacity magazines so they can unload as many bullets as they can to kill as many people as they can, in our schools, in our theaters and in our churches.”

A parade of Republicans took to the well Friday to speak at length in opposition to every aspect the bill; but the Democratic majority, with at least three members breaking ranks and voting against House Bill 1224, passed the measure on second reading over those sustained objections.

“If you vote for this bill, you are gambling on the safety of Coloradans,” said Minority Leader Mark Waller, R-Colorado Springs. “There is no evidence that banning these magazines will have any positive impact on public safety and you are taking them away from responsible, law-abiding citizens.”

Republicans also focused attention on Boulder-based Magpul Industries, the $400 million magazine manufacturer now threatening to leave Colorado if this ban becomes law; and, five hours into the debate, the House GOP informed reporters that a Magpul supplier, Alfred Manufacturing, may also have to move its Denver plant, and 150 jobs there, to another state.

Democrats amended the bill to allow Magpul to continue to manufacture high-capacity magazines in Colorado for sale in other states, but the company remained opposed to the ban.

Republicans argued that the amendment, which would enable the continued use of magazines of more than 15 clips elsewhere, illustrated hypocrisy.

“Now we know what this bill is really about,” said Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg, R-Sterling. “It’s all about the money! Is that what this bill’s about? That we don’t care about other people across the country?”

Democrats said they’re simply striving to find a balance that protects affected businesses while improving public safety.

“This represents us listening to a constituency base,” said Rep. Joe Salazar, D-Thornton.

Rep. Chris Holbert, R-Parker, referred to the amendment as “the oops amendment”, arguing that Democrats forgot about the impact on businesses when drafting the bill.

The strident opposition to House Bill 1224, one of the two measures the House GOP entered the day with hope of defeating, presaged a long floor fight over the four Democratic gun control measures that Is expected to last late into the night and possibly Saturday morning.

Republicans began the day hoping they can find five Democrats to vote against the bill and help kill it; at least four Democrats have expressed reservations but House Speaker Mark Ferrandino is confident that the high-capacity magazine ban will pass the House at the end of this long debate.

One moderate Democrat who Republicans needed to vote against the bill, Rep. Mike McLachlan of Durango, had already voted for the ban during the House Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday.

On Friday, he strode to the well to inform his colleagues he’d be doing so again.

“I rise in support of this bill,” said McLachlan, a Vietnam Vet who narrowly won a GOP-leaning district last November, sounding the unofficial death knell for the GOP’s attempted filibuster.

“No constitutional right, even the Second Amendment, is absolute.”

Following the voice vote on the high-capacity ammunition ban, lawmakers immediately began debating House Bill 1226, which mandates background checks on all gun purchases in the state that is also sponsored by Fields.

The other measures before the House Friday, or perhaps early Saturday morning, include legislation to force gun buyers to pay for those background checks and a ban on concealed weapons on college campuses.


TOPICS: US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/15/2013 8:35:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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2 posted on 02/15/2013 8:38:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“magazines of more than 15 clips”

How many clips fit into a magazine these days?
I have trouble jamming more than 5 into a ten-round 5.56 magazine.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 8:43:35 PM PST by Anoreth (It's not a great party until someone loses rank.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“No constitutional right, even the Second Amendment, is absolute.”

Nothing like dumping the Constitution in one statement.

Our GOP in action.

4 posted on 02/15/2013 8:44:41 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Magpul needs to leave Colorado


5 posted on 02/15/2013 8:45:21 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There have been far more people who needed the extra ammo to defend themselves than have gone on rampages with it. Nothing is perfect, and limiting cars to going only 10 mph would sure cut down on auto accident deaths, but transportation would really stink.


6 posted on 02/15/2013 8:48:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Time to boycott Colorado.


7 posted on 02/15/2013 8:51:45 PM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: doc1019

Well, the guy is a Democrat.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 9:02:20 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: doc1019
“No constitutional right, even the Second Amendment, is absolute.”

Nothing like dumping the Constitution in one statement.

Our GOP in action.

He's not GOP! He's a so-called "moderate" democRAT!

"One moderate Democrat who Republicans needed to vote against the bill, Rep. Mike McLachlan of Durango"

All of which goes to show, there is NO such thing as a moderate democRAT in any way. They will ALWAYS vote their party socialist ideology & agenda, and will vote against a socialist bill only if their vote is not needed. This way the democRAT bastards can claim to be "pro-gun, or pro-life, or pro-traditional marriage or pro-whatever", knowing that their vote wasn't needed to pass some democRAT atrocious bill.

9 posted on 02/15/2013 9:03:22 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: lookout88

i believe magpul has stated they will leave colorado if this becomes law.

so are we now going to check mass murderers in colorado to see when they bought the magazines so we know if we need to add additional charges. frigging idiots. this is what happens when to many illegals and californians infest your state.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 9:04:30 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sue the bastards.


11 posted on 02/15/2013 9:08:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: rcrngroup

“House approves” must mean there were many members of the GOP that agreed with this Democrat, otherwise this would not have passed. That was the gist of my comment.


12 posted on 02/15/2013 9:09:41 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"...Over the course of the last four or five years, we’ve had 34 mass shootings using high capacity magazines,” said Rep. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora..."

It strikes me as odd that she gives a very specific number of "mass shootings," but can't pin it down to a specific time frame. Does she mean 34 in Colorado in the last 4-5 years, or in the US as a whole? Does this include gangstuh-on-gangstuh shootouts and drive-by's?

13 posted on 02/15/2013 9:10:29 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Grandma Conservative
Time to boycott Colorado

That's hard to do when you live and work here.

I can't believe we've gone so far to the dark side.

These democrats have to know that they are acting in violation of the Constitution, in opposition to the wishes of the majority of their constituents and in a manner that will jeopardize their chances of re-election. There's got to be a lot of pressure coming from the white house.

14 posted on 02/15/2013 9:11:44 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Washi

purifying the base...


15 posted on 02/15/2013 9:13:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: lookout88

They said if this passes they are gone. Hope they “stick to their guns”. So to speak.

Molon labe


16 posted on 02/15/2013 9:22:41 PM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Anoreth

How generous. Particularly since my Springfield xdm holds 16......


17 posted on 02/15/2013 9:26:38 PM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: doc1019

Unfortunately the rats have control of the Colorado house


18 posted on 02/15/2013 9:28:18 PM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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Colorado state senate has 20 democrats and 15 republicans. Gov is democrat. All democrat bills passing the house will become law. Colorado is now California.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 9:32:09 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The common thread is that democrats are gun-grabbers.

Never, ever, ever vote for a dem. The 2A and democrat rule aren’t compatible.


20 posted on 02/15/2013 9:35:02 PM PST by umgud
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