Firearm homicide rates is a propaganda metric. I want to see the total homicide rate before and after.
“Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research”
After seeing the source, I don’t need to know anything else. Its like getting an analytical study on economics from the old Soviet Union.
Frankly, I don’t even care what the numbers are, because I don’t agree with the premise.
If they want to cut homicide rates in half, they could blind black males at birth. Statistically, that would do the trick. Now is that acceptable? Hell, no.
So eliminating my rights is a not starter, no matter what they claim the benefit will be.
The Johns Hopkins gun policy is funded by the Joyce Foundation. All gun grabbing work usually leads to the Joyce Foundation. One of their board members also used to be one Bacrock Hussein Osama.
Looks like background check legislation could be passed by congress and become law. My problem with that it could violate some citizen’s 1nd Amendment rights due to errors in the system.
For example there are errors in the “no-fly” database and some law abiding citizens get booted off public airlines flights.
But even more egregious to me is charging a fee for gun licensing, background checks & concealed carry permits. That most certainly will make it difficult for poor people to own guns.
There was a jump in the overall murder rate in 2008. The murder rates from 2004 to 2011 are as follows: 6.15, 6.95, 6.30, 6.55, 7.65 (2008), 6.46, 7.00, 6.09(2011).
Interestingly, there were large increases in the murder rate right after the 1968 national gun law was passed, prohibiting sales across state lines:
1966, 5.42, 1967 7.32, 1968 8.81, 1969 10.41, 1970 10.66.
So it appears that the 1968 national gun control program pushed up homicide rates much more than a repeal of background checks might have in 2007-2008.
Too many factors to really consider, but this will be a talking point to try to push for universal gun registration.
Has anyone else noticed the seemingly escalation in violent multi victim gun related murders since obama took office? I would like to see a graph. You can’t watch the news anymore without multimurders involving guns being reported. Either they are being orchestrated on some human level, or it is because of the vast empowerment of satanic forces let loose on society through obama’s influence.
Lie. The source proves it’s a lie.
Let's see, 4.66 per 100,000 goes to 6.23 per 100,000 which is an increase of less than 2 per 100,000. Without knowing the standard deviation of the "relatively stable" 4.66 rate it is difficult to judge but given that even that "spike" fell back to a ten year average increase of 1.2 per 100,000 I'd say that was statistically insignificant.
Regards,
GtG
It changed in one year because the state background check law was repealed? BS! All FFLs still had to comply with FedMob NICs checks. No supporting data to reach any such conclusion given in the article. Pure propaganda.
If there’s a problem, I suspect it would be with the “unlicensed dealers.” Whatever that is.
You can’t win these types of political arguments with statistics. For one thing, they are overused. For another, each side has their statistics and both believe the other is wrong. It just comes down to each faction quoting “facts” without either side changing many minds.
It comes down to this: we have a contract with the federal government called the US Constitution. The 2nd Amendment restrains government from infringing on the right to own and use guns. Don’t believe in guns? Don’t own them. Like guns? Buy whatever you want.
The President of the United States, Congress, and judges cannot legally or morally take away 2nd Amendment rights. Anyone who wants to go beyond their personal choice to bear arms (or not) and force their will on others is required to first amend the US Constitution. That’s how it was designed to work. Don’t want your neighbor to have guns? Amend the constitution, then we can talk.
So I don’t really care if universal background checks decrease or increase murders by some measureable amount. Maybe murders would be cut in half by universal background checks. That might be a good selling point for a constitutional amendment, but it isn’t justification by itself to ignore the law of the land, the US Constitution.
Crimes committed by Obama Loving Liberal Voters versus Crimes committed by Constitution Loving Conservative Voters.
Surprisingly not considered a sharp increase.
Very bogus assumption without indicating the source of guns. I doubt they were legally purchased and immediately used to murder someone. Study also fails to note impact of economic downturn. This is pure BS. As Mark Twain said: “There are lies,damned lies, and statistics.”
But the fact that national homicide rates have plummeted since the advent of shall-issue CCW means nothing.