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California police chief: The idea that a gun is a defensive weapon is a ‘myth’
Washington Examiner ^ | February 14, 2013 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 02/14/2013 2:15:06 PM PST by Zakeet

California Police Chief Ken James insisted earlier this month that the idea of a gun as a “defensive weapon” was a “myth.” Speaking at a news conference about gun control with California lawmakers, James explained that he was concerned with the amount of weapons owned by American citizens.

“One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon,” James said. “That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon.”

James is the Police Chief of Emeryville, California and the Police Chief Association’s Firearms Committee Chairman.

“A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” he asserted, explaining to the audience that police officers don’t carry weapons to defend themselves, but to do their job in a “safe and effective manner.”

James’ statement has become a subject of ridicule among gun owners online.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
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To: Zakeet
So, if a firearm is NOT ever a defensive weapon, and ONLY an offensive weapon, then, Mr. idiot police chief (I'm trying to remain dignified - okay, so, I'm not) please tell the public what WE are suppose to use to DEFEND ourselves from criminals AND a tyrannical government??? Are YOU suggesting that if, someone is breaking into my home, my only defense of my home and family is to 1) allow these people free reign to fulfill their goals, or 2) call the police to come and DEFEND me with YOUR firearms??????

This man has NO business being in Law Enforcement, let alone being a police chief.

61 posted on 02/14/2013 3:02:23 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: wac3rd
Looking at it with google earth it reeks of money. That must be a man made island with the marina and PD is on the island also.
62 posted on 02/14/2013 3:04:03 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Zakeet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_defense_weapon


63 posted on 02/14/2013 3:04:03 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: ExTxMarine

How this guy became a Chief is probably laughable. Any aware person knows/realizes there is a fine line between offensive and defensive actions. At least that is what I came to believe/realize in WWII.


64 posted on 02/14/2013 3:04:14 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: dfwgator
Who’s the token white guy in the upper right?

I don't know, but he looks like Dan Aykroyd. Maybe it's Dr. Detroit.

65 posted on 02/14/2013 3:09:38 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Zakeet; All
Regarding the PC perspective that "the idea that the gun is a defensive weapon is a myth," the Supreme Court has already clarified the following as posted in related threads. The Founding States made the 2nd Amendment to clarify that guns compliment (my word) the natural right to self-defense, with or without the 2nd Amendment.
"The second and tenth counts are equally defective. The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States." --United States v. Cruikshank, 1875.

It's too bad that citizens are being intimidated by law enforcement officials who evidently do not know the Constitution that they swear to defend."

66 posted on 02/14/2013 3:12:25 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: noinfringers2

He’s an idiot. It follows that those who appointed him are idiots. Ergo, the people (electorate) in that city are idiots, Q.E.D.


67 posted on 02/14/2013 3:13:47 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Zakeet
There's a girl named Danae, who just turned 23. She was 18 at the time. She is damn glad a gun is a defensive weapon.

I still get free hugs whenever I see her.

68 posted on 02/14/2013 3:23:20 PM PST by real saxophonist (You can't take the sky from me)
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To: Zakeet
Most officials in this State have their heads up their collective as.......s
69 posted on 02/14/2013 3:29:02 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Zakeet

So his offers carry guns as offensive weapons to attack people? That’s what he said.


70 posted on 02/14/2013 3:31:43 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Zakeet

So why do cops carry gunz?


71 posted on 02/14/2013 3:31:52 PM PST by wrench
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To: Zakeet

Then lets enhance the safety of all California LEOs by disarming them all.


72 posted on 02/14/2013 3:39:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: jazusamo
He’s decked out like a South American dictator in his uniform and all the stars on it.

In Soviet Russia Chief have fewer stars


73 posted on 02/14/2013 3:45:47 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Zakeet
this man is a fool. If he honestly believes his own words then how the hell did he ever become chief of anything but the moron ward in a mental hospital? His message just like the other anti-gunners; don't believe your lying eyes (stats and testimony), believe our lies.
74 posted on 02/14/2013 3:49:07 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Zakeet

A town of 10,000 and this fool is wearing 4 stars.


75 posted on 02/14/2013 3:51:24 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: Zakeet

Let me try to repair his logical error.

“A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” he asserted, explaining to the audience that police officers don’t carry weapons to defend themselves, but to intimidate and show power.”


76 posted on 02/14/2013 3:55:56 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Zakeet

I’m sure that many things “boggle his mind”.


77 posted on 02/14/2013 4:00:54 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Yep, similar mustache though. :-)


78 posted on 02/14/2013 4:08:32 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Zakeet
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79 posted on 02/14/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Zakeet

“A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power,” he asserted, explaining to the audience that police officers don’t carry weapons to defend themselves, but to do their job in a “safe and effective manner.”

I guess this means that none of his officers carry a weapon when off duty. Why I’ll bet the Chief even leaves his firearm at the office when he goes home. Don’t need a “safe and effective tool” if you don’t have a job to do.


80 posted on 02/14/2013 4:13:28 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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