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Many African-Americans Concerned About Obama’s Focus on Immigrant Rights
McClatchy ^ | Monday, February 11, 2013 | William Douglas and Franco Ordonez

Posted on 02/11/2013 4:15:30 PM PST by kristinn

No sooner did President Barack Obama and a group of senators separately outline proposals to revamp the nation’s immigration system than the phone lines on several African-American-oriented talk radio shows heated up with callers blasting the plans.

“Amnesty,” complained Frankie from Maryland recently on the nationally syndicated “Keeping it Real with Al Sharpton.”

A political payback to Hispanic voters that does little or nothing for African-Americans, reasoned Sam from Milwaukee on Wisconsin’s 1290 WMCS AM’s “Earl Ingram Show.”

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Still, Ingram says many of his listeners see Obama’s attempt to push forward on immigration as a reminder of what the president hasn’t done to improve economic conditions for African-Americans.

“I would say a bulk of my listenership is anti-immigration,” he said.

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The African-American unemployment rate is at 13.8 percent, according to recently released government figures, nearly twice the 7 percent jobless rate for whites. The nation’s overall unemployment rate is 7.9 percent. For Hispanics, the rate is 9.7 percent.

A 2009 study by George Borjas of Harvard University, Jeffrey Grogger of the University of Chicago and George Hanson of the University of California, San Diego, looked at 1960-2000 Census data and found that as immigrants disproportionately increased the supply of workers in a particular area, wages of African-American workers in that area fell, the employment rate declined and the incarceration rate rose.

“Our analysis suggests that a 10 percent immigration-induced increase in the supply of a particular skill group reduced the black wage by 2.5 percent, lowered the employment rate of black men by 5.9 percentage points, and increased the incarceration rate of blacks by 1.3 percentage points,” the professors wrote in the study.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bhoamnesty; bhocorruption; bhofascism; blackobamavoters; blackvote; corruption; democratplantation; democrats; elections; illegalimmigration; obama; obamavoters; obamessiah; pantsontheground
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To: forgotten man

Blacks and Hispanics don’t normally get along with each other.

Blacks and Asians don’t normally get along with each other.

Blacks and whites often don’t get along so well.

Obviously, those Hispanics, Asians and whites need sensitivity training!


51 posted on 02/11/2013 7:42:24 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: manc

“.. I know many whites from Africa who now live here and they hate the term African AMerican as to the dummies out there they think AA is just black people..”

IIRC, John F’in Kerry’s wife, Teresa, is an African American.


52 posted on 02/11/2013 7:52:23 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: forgotten man

Last year I drove through an area in our town that has always been black, since I can remember anyway. It is no longer black but Mexican. Mexican grocery stores and Mexicans pushing their anchor babies down the street in strollers.


53 posted on 02/11/2013 7:56:42 PM PST by sheana
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Gosh, that’s weird, since Zero professes to be both US-born *and* a lifelong Christian, he must have exactly the same roots as the rest of the black community, even the ones who are gunning each other down nonstop in Chicago and most other large urban areas. I mean, I’d understand Zero’s attitude if he were, say, foreign-born and not raised Christian...

Thanks kristinn.


54 posted on 02/11/2013 8:03:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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A 2009 study by George Borjas of Harvard University, Jeffrey Grogger of the University of Chicago and George Hanson of the University of California, San Diego, looked at 1960-2000 Census data and found that as immigrants disproportionately increased the supply of workers in a particular area, wages of African-American workers in that area fell, the employment rate declined and the incarceration rate rose.
It'll help if you just think of it as 'reparations' -- three square a day that you have to eat in ten minutes per meal, roof over your head, regular exercise, free health care.

The Obama Tax Hike

to go with

The Obama Recession


55 posted on 02/11/2013 8:19:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: kristinn

This will cut the black democrat vote down to 99.5%


56 posted on 02/11/2013 8:37:36 PM PST by oldbill
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To: PhilCollins

And if Israelis come and settle here they would be Asian Americans.

It’s all quite confusing.

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57 posted on 02/11/2013 8:42:56 PM PST by Mears
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To: kearnyirish2

“In northern NJ the black neighborhoods, while shrinking, are being encircled by Hispanic buffer zones. As Hispanics overtake them politically, economically, and demographically, blacks are fading into obscurity.”

The blacks will rue the day that Hispanics become the majority in this country.

Hispanics (and also Asians) have no “white guilt”.

They will claim what they perceive to be theirs, and if blacks get pushed out of the way, it will be tough luck...

Of course, all this will _still_ be blamed on “white racism”...


58 posted on 02/11/2013 9:10:53 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: kristinn

Hey all you unemployed black yut with few work skills,
guess obammy is going to let a few million illegals compete with you all for those low skill poor paying jobs.
Glad you voted for this marxist punk because he is black?


59 posted on 02/12/2013 3:05:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: dforest

And a majority didn’t want obammy care either, nor do a majority want gun confiscation but it too will pass and soon.
These a-holes that we elected to represent us are simply shoving crap up our wazoos we do not want nor care for.
It’s the obammy way.


60 posted on 02/12/2013 3:07:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: forgotten man

both groups are competing for the same low skill labor type jobs.
Latins usually have a better work ethic.


61 posted on 02/12/2013 3:10:47 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: kearnyirish2

American blacks have a welfare attitude and a very poor work ethic. Guess their state dependancy and ruination of the black family unit is a problem.
The Latins here for the most part are very hard workers doing jobs I wouldn’t want to do and blacks refuse.


62 posted on 02/12/2013 3:16:21 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: Road Glide

Here in NJ they are already at that point, as Hispanics start taking political offices blacks regarded as their birthright. Dems have to kowtow to the Hispanics as their bread & butter, and blacks are simply fading into obscurity. Hispanics not only have no “white guilt” (which few whites in NJ have anyway); they are pushing blacks out in every way from every walk of life. Urban blacks in NJ have watched a procession of various immigrant populations come here, persevere, and leave them in the dust.


63 posted on 02/12/2013 3:24:58 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Joe Boucher

“The Latins here for the most part are very hard workers doing jobs I wouldn’t want to do and blacks refuse.”

I don’t believe that at all; look at how many Americans applied for the meat-packing jobs in the midwest after those immigration raids. Hispanics don’t do jobs Americans “won’t do” or “don’t want”; they take jobs Americans used to do for better wages, and do them for less. They are a bargain when the employer pays no SS tax, insurance coverage, etc. and the worker pays no income taxes, SS tax, Medicare, at all.

Here in NJ there are a lot of Americans put out of work by the Bronze Horde; the state needs them here to keep schools full, but on the whole they are a huge negative.


64 posted on 02/12/2013 3:37:05 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kristinn

Bo is a representative of communism where all races are slaves. Bo’s most favored, however, are the parasites, homos, and selected weak minded minorities.


65 posted on 02/12/2013 4:18:29 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: kristinn

Let’em eat cake!


66 posted on 02/12/2013 5:22:07 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: kristinn
“Many African-Americans Concerned About Obama’s Focus on Immigrant Rights” So? They'll just push their faces back into their government trough and keep eating. This story means less than nothing.
67 posted on 02/12/2013 6:49:46 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Windflier

oh there are decent people too out there I every community, I;ve had run ins with quite a few on the left , whether black or white and they always lose their temper and I turned the tables on them by useing their words.


68 posted on 02/12/2013 7:20:04 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ought-six

Without any GOP outreach to blacks you’re completely right.


69 posted on 02/12/2013 7:28:31 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Tzimisce
Blacks are more racist than Whites

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"

70 posted on 02/12/2013 7:31:38 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: kristinn

I don’t know a soul who is anti-immigration. I know a lot who are against ILLEGAL immigration.


72 posted on 02/12/2013 11:14:04 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: Sivad

“Blah, blah, blah. If there was another presidential election next Tuesday these same whiners would individually cast as many votes for Obama as they could get away with just like they did last November. They get what they vote for just as much as the rest of us get what we voted against.”

My thoughts exactly.


73 posted on 02/12/2013 11:22:31 AM PST by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: kearnyirish2

I am surrounded by citrus, and vegatable farms as well as catttle farms.
Planters, pickers, field workers where all have a vast majority of latins. Many illegals.
Blacks are too used to getting cradle to grave welfare here.


74 posted on 02/12/2013 11:38:16 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((fubo))
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To: Joe Boucher

I am surrounded by citrus, and vegatable farms as well as catttle farms.
Planters, pickers, field workers where all have a vast majority of latins. Many illegals.
Blacks are too used to getting cradle to grave welfare here.
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nothing encourages work like hunger


75 posted on 02/12/2013 11:44:09 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: kristinn

"... the president’s call has reignited complaints within the African-American community that he is addressing the specific needs of almost all major voting blocs – Hispanics, women, gays – except for the African-Americans who gave him 93 percent of their vote."


So, who's keeping who in chains?



76 posted on 02/12/2013 12:09:56 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Joe Boucher

We have plenty of farms here in NJ (the “Garden State”), but they don’t want American workers. The illegals are much easier to work with and profit from; it is a win-win for both parties involved, while it is a lose-lose for Americans (no jobs, and 63 illegals living next door to you for which you pay to clothe, feed, and house them - and school their anchor babies).

Employers are the problem, and while they have valid complaints (they can’t compete when “the other guy” uses illegals, for example), the “Americans don’t want these jobs” is nonsense. Americans have always done every job in the book; they just don’t want to do it for a bowl of chili a day.


77 posted on 02/12/2013 1:52:16 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Now the ruling class can say there. was a black. President


78 posted on 02/12/2013 6:49:31 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: manc

I dont buy the reason. some of them go after white women. There are a lot of crazy white women and smart attractive black women. I know many


79 posted on 02/12/2013 6:58:12 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: SpaceBar
There was no mention of Hubert Henry Harrison.
80 posted on 02/12/2013 8:26:58 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: kristinn
Obama's worldview is not and has never been in sync with that of most (legitimate) African Americans. His worldview isn't defined by Selma, but by Mau Mau and Marxist pamphlets on college campuses. Nevertheless, I find it almost laughable when black activists voice disagreements with Obama on any issue. In a hypothetical world where Obama could run for a third term, there isn't a thing that Obama could do that would stop blacks from voting for him by at least a 10 to 1 margin.

If anyone thinks immigration is a tipping point issue that will take blacks off the Democratic plantation, think again. Both radical Islamists and NOW feminists seem to have no difficulty cohabiting in the left's big, happy family, so I don't expect there to be any big split between Chicanos and blacks either.

81 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:15 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Carry me back

I’;ve been to VA many times and not seen that nor any where else.

yoi don;t buy it that black men prefer white women, where on earth are you in VA?

The vast majority infact 99% of white men prefer white women and over half of black men I;ve met want white women

you must live in some secret get away in VA if you thinm what you wrote is fact


82 posted on 02/13/2013 11:51:36 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Carry me back

I’;ve been to VA many times and not seen that nor any where else.

yoi don;t buy it that black men prefer white women, where on earth are you in VA?

The vast majority infact 99% of white men prefer white women and over half of black men I;ve met want white women

you must live in some secret get away in VA if you thinm what you wrote is fact.

Like one black guy told me, black women are nothing but temper and bad attitudes and overweight


83 posted on 02/13/2013 11:52:06 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I dont believe most black men want white women and if one does i dont think it is because he couldnt find a decent black woman White women are good women but so are a lot of black women.That is all im saying. I shouldnt say there. are a lot of bad white women.


84 posted on 02/13/2013 2:08:23 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back

from my travels I;ve found most black men prefer white women and even had black men tell me that black women are never what they want in some cases


85 posted on 02/13/2013 2:41:01 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I guess it depends where you are. I go to a mega chiurch in richmond mosttly black and even though there are a lot lesswhites in the church at times i would say there have been more white men with black women than the other way around. But. I agree percentage wise a lot more black men go for interracial dating than white men. Historically imo white.men have had sex with black women but only wanted to marry white women.


86 posted on 02/13/2013 6:23:23 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back

I have been to Richmond VA a few times and have friends there and they live in a mixed race area, though more blacks are moving in to his area and he said the same after I read your post and called him.

Black women do not have the attraction as white women to black men.

H eknows plenty of black men who would rather have a white women and not one white guy either who wants a black woman.

Seems your little crner of America, i.e. your church is different to the country


87 posted on 02/14/2013 4:49:41 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

The numbers dont support your theory based on. A few black guys you have spoken to. Most black men obviously want black women.Having sex with a white woman or black women for whote guys is not the same as prefering them. We just disagree. But there is nothing in society to suggest most. Black guys want white women imo.


88 posted on 02/14/2013 2:53:57 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back

nothing to suggest, when I say the black guys I have spoken too I;m talking in Chicago, Philly, Richmond VA, , FL NC, hell even England, Africa etc.

The majority of black men I;ve spoken too and it;s not a few want white women and have said veyr negative things about black women, bad attitude, let themselves go, crap mothers, lazy.


89 posted on 02/14/2013 7:43:27 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Carry me back

sorry to add but I;ve just spoken to my kids in school who are all different ages and they all laughed when I said what you said and all said that the black boys are always chasing white girls and even the black girls at school are fed up of it and actually there has been fights by black girls on white girls at the schools because of this and their jealousy


90 posted on 02/14/2013 7:45:31 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

It has been talked about. For years how black women are the ones that cant find good black men prision ect. The ones. doing different things often stand out and get noticed. We disagree that is ok


91 posted on 02/16/2013 5:08:00 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: manc

Take a look at any standard application for hand-outs (food stamps, heating assistance, etc.).

They have a chart that shows increasing benefits based on household size. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to get more benefits.


92 posted on 02/16/2013 5:12:54 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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