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Hunt for Christopher Dorner becomes major PR problem for L.A. police
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | February 10, 2013 | Brad Knickerbocker

Posted on 02/10/2013 7:15:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The hunt for alleged cop killer Christopher Dorner has turned into a major public relations challenge for law enforcement officials, in particular the Los Angeles Police Department working its way back from a history of corruption and abuse.

Not only have hundreds of well-trained officers equipped with military-style vehicles – including helicopters with thermal imaging devices one pilot says can pick out a rabbit in a snowstorm – been unable to find the man charged with killing three people and wounding two others on a rampage aimed at police officers and their families.

The LAPD also has been forced to reexamine the reasons for Mr. Dorner’s dismissal as a police officer in 2009 – brought about, Dorner charges in the 11-page manifesto he posted on Facebook, by racism in the department. And the LAPD is having to make amends to the two people – a middle-aged Hispanic woman and her mother delivering newspapers – wounded when police riddled their truck with gunfire. (The women’s truck was neither the make nor the color of Dorner’s pickup later found abandoned.)

The search for Dorner continued Sunday in and around the San Bernardino mountains east of Los Angeles, but police were on edge and alert to the possibility that the alleged killer had left California. Police in Las Vegas (where Dorner owns property) are now traveling in pairs, and motorcycle patrol officers have been ordered into less-vulnerable cruisers...

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; chrisdorner; christopherdorner; clusterflock; corruption; crime; donutwatch; dorner; guncontrol; keystonekops; lapd; lasvegas; leo; massmurderer; nevada; racism; rambro; secondamendment; whatshisfrnick
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1 posted on 02/10/2013 7:15:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We've had some pieces on FR over the years about the LA cops being understrength as compared to police forces in other cities. That's why they hang back in riots ~ allegedly.

Now that they're tied down by 1 guy...............

There are much better places to live than LA

2 posted on 02/10/2013 7:24:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Bunch of animals in that zoo....once they started tolerating gangs it was the beginning of the end....should just build a huge cage around the place.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 7:25:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the Keystone cops shot at a mom and her daughter and a white guy while searching for a large black man, what are they, blind?


4 posted on 02/10/2013 7:26:07 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: muawiyah

I grew up in Chino and wouldn’t move back for anything.


5 posted on 02/10/2013 7:26:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but police were on edge and alert to the possibility that the alleged killer had left California. Police in Las Vegas (where Dorner owns property)

Check it out but Dorner is not going there.

6 posted on 02/10/2013 7:28:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sad it took all this to get his case reopened. Sad at the loss of life, especially the young girl and her fiance. The anguish of her father. The sadness of the family that lost the 31 year old officer. Is the LAPD internal investigation system so poor it could not detect this trouble?

And what of the behavior the guy describes in his manifesto. How can that be ignored?


7 posted on 02/10/2013 7:30:19 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sad it took all this to get his case reopened. Sad at the loss of life, especially the young girl and her fiance. The anguish of her father. The sadness of the family that lost the 31 year old officer. Is the LAPD internal investigation system so poor it could not detect this trouble?

And what of the behavior the guy describes in his manifesto. How can that be ignored?


8 posted on 02/10/2013 7:30:19 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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9 posted on 02/10/2013 7:30:25 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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10 posted on 02/10/2013 7:31:23 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Turning a pickup truck into a replica of the Bonnie and Clyde death car with two innocent ladies on board will do that.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 7:41:13 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine they are also trying to figure out how to catch a 6 foot, 270 lb African American guy without being accused of “racial profiling”.


12 posted on 02/10/2013 7:43:57 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In related news...

Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74362381/

Charlie Sheen to ex-cop fugitive killer Dorner: Call me maybe
http://boingboing.net/2013/02/10/charlie-sheen-to-ex-cop-fugiti.html

Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Possible Sighting of Fugitive Ex-Cop Leads to Store Evacuation
http://abcnews.go.com/US/christopher-dorner-manhunt-sighting-leads-store-evacuation/story?id=18457978


13 posted on 02/10/2013 7:45:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Rut Roh. You may be right. It would be a “Hate Crime” if anyone of another race shoots him.


14 posted on 02/10/2013 7:54:40 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christopher Dorner is a cowardly POS.

One of his victims, Michael Crain, 34, LEO AD, USMC, will be laid to rest on this coming Wednesday.

http://www.socalpgr.org/mission/missionpreview.php?missionId=1525

15 posted on 02/10/2013 8:00:34 PM PST by South40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The uninformed voter influence has come home to roost.

Evidence the Face book pages, tweets, on-line comments to news stories —

And the news is reporting this stuff, which is supportive of Dorner.

So we now have the same social media participants who elected bo, supporting an anti-authority, ‘unfairly fired,’ minority member, and representative of the oppressed underclass; an anti-hero against the repressive police state.

Use your imagination on where this may go. I think I will give up predicting; I am never extreme enough in my sarcasm.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 8:04:45 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a headline on a major news story that is actually an understatement until now.

They are darn lucky they didn’t kill any of the 3 people they’ve blindly fired at...so far.

I’m sorry, but that behavior I just don’t understand.


17 posted on 02/10/2013 8:07:35 PM PST by jocon307
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To: yldstrk

I don’t think the entire police department shot at those two ladies.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 8:10:05 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: yldstrk

“the Keystone cops shot at a mom and her daughter and a white guy while searching for a large black man, what are they, blind?”

Yes, they are color blind. They are looking for a large black male to shoot but they don’t want to be seen as racist so they have to shoot at whites and latinos too. I wonder who their asian victim(s) will be?

This can be classified as equal opportunity incompetence.


19 posted on 02/10/2013 8:19:49 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: yldstrk

Apparently so


20 posted on 02/10/2013 8:21:05 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Occupy LAPD?


21 posted on 02/10/2013 8:22:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

The guy sounds like he’s been a “victim” all his life, not just while at thr LAPD. He just got cut loose from the Navy reserves on Feb 1st due to not “meeting physical requirements”... which might have been a nice way of saying they recognized that he’s nuts.

I don’t think he’s a modern day Serpico.


22 posted on 02/10/2013 8:22:50 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m guessing that this guy is a long way from California at the moment.


23 posted on 02/10/2013 8:28:53 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: South40
Christopher Dorner is a cowardly POS.

And the LAPD is having to make amends to the two people – a middle-aged Hispanic woman and her mother delivering newspapers – wounded when police riddled their truck with gunfire. (The women’s truck was neither the make nor the color of Dorner’s pickup later found abandoned.)

These seven cops are heroes. So is the cop who rammed the morning commuter, then fired 3-4 rounds into his windshield.

24 posted on 02/10/2013 8:29:02 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“And what of the behavior the guy describes in his manifesto. How can that be ignored?”

When you remember and take the time to list your complaints back to grade school it speaks of his credibility or lack there of.


25 posted on 02/10/2013 8:31:01 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Cementjungle

He probably got cut loose because he could not meet weight standards!


26 posted on 02/10/2013 8:37:25 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Perhaps. I would guess that’s what sent him on his current rampage, which means he didn’t plan for long at all... just a few days...which means he’s toast.


27 posted on 02/10/2013 8:41:44 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: ThomasThomas
When you remember and take the time to list your complaints back to grade school

I thought that was odd also. For such a big man he sure is a wuss. Get over it already.

28 posted on 02/10/2013 8:53:10 PM PST by South40
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To: muawiyah

“We’ve had some pieces on FR over the years about the LA cops being understrength as compared to police forces in other cities. That’s why they hang back in riots ~ allegedly.
Now that they’re tied down by 1 guy...............

There are much better places to live than LA”

I suspect you’ve got a piece of the answer there - the good, i.e., smart, cops have probably re-located to Phoenix, Dallas, any city without CA following it. What’s left is the also-rans.


29 posted on 02/10/2013 9:05:31 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Same post-adolescent, nihilistic, narcissistic imbeciles who have made Youtube a cesspool of filth...we are heading toward a Soviet-type communist state....


30 posted on 02/10/2013 9:05:42 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hundreds of LEOs can’t find one man but Feinstein thinks they’ll be able to confiscate tens of millions of guns someday?


31 posted on 02/10/2013 9:24:07 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: South40
Christopher Dorner is a cowardly POS

Who told us that Dorner killed this guy and the other two?

LAPD of course.

Now that doesn't mean he isn't the perp, but the source of the information is "tainted" at the minimum.

32 posted on 02/10/2013 9:28:13 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the bright side they have enough rabbits now to stock several homeless shelters.


33 posted on 02/10/2013 9:35:00 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The hunt for alleged cop killer Christopher Dorner has turned into a major public relations challenge for law enforcement officials, in particular the Los Angeles Police Department working its way back from a history of corruption and abuse.
Not only have hundreds of well-trained officers equipped with military-style vehicles – including helicopters with thermal imaging devices one pilot says can pick out a rabbit in a snowstorm – been unable to find the man charged with killing three people and wounding two others on a rampage aimed at police officers and their families.”

If the police keep going the way they’re going, they just might turn this Dorner creep into a new folk hero of sorts… a modern-day Pretty Boy Floyd.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 9:58:06 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: yldstrk

“the Keystone cops shot at a mom and her daughter and a white guy while searching for a large black man, what are they, blind?”

The Keystone Cops didn’t have real weapons and real authority.

Also, they totalled a guy’s car and put him out of work not far from their shooting, which “is under investigation” (i.e., buried).


35 posted on 02/10/2013 10:03:44 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: El Gato
Who told us that Dorner killed this guy and the other two?
LAPD of course.

Dorner is suspected in three deaths, one in Riverside and the other two in Irvine. Riverside and Irvine have their own PDs with each conducting its own investigation. Both departments are completely independent of the LAPD. Your assertion is absurd.

36 posted on 02/10/2013 10:07:50 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

That’s going to be one poorly attended funeral.


37 posted on 02/10/2013 10:40:01 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: TigersEye

Those snowshoe Big Bear rabbits are dynamite!


38 posted on 02/10/2013 10:46:11 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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>> thermal imaging devices one pilot says can pick out a rabbit in a snowstorm

Or a dog on a chain in the backyard. Or a kid delivering papers on his bicycle. Hell, I bet they could pick out granny on the porch in her rocking chair.


39 posted on 02/10/2013 11:09:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: ThomasThomas
When you remember and take the time to list your complaints back to grade school it speaks of his credibility or lack there of.

Or attention to detail and a good memory. I've got a list too: don't normally think about them at all, but in the event they will not be forgetten. (And that includes the towtruck firm that stole the radio out of my damaged Mazda in '73)

40 posted on 02/10/2013 11:11:48 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Gene Eric

Yep. What they can’t pick out is a guy who knows that anybody with a $3 space blanket can avoid detection by thermal imaging cameras.


41 posted on 02/10/2013 11:27:49 PM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Keystone Kops!
Can't even track this guy, but managed to shoot up three innocent people by sheer incompetence and buffoonery.

If I lived in LA, I would be more afraid of the LAPD than Dorner.

cops harass helicopter shoot dorner pickup women

cops shoot innocent truck dorner idiots murder


Halt! Show me your papers!
helicopter nazis harass woman rockcollector police

42 posted on 02/11/2013 1:03:09 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: ponygirl

A space blanket will not give much concealment from thermal imaging even when initially put on and even less once body heat warms the material up. In cold climates it is even less useful for concealment.


43 posted on 02/11/2013 2:31:13 AM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Put gun in cops hands and the one being pointed at is going to wind up dead. after all if there is no one to testify, the cop get off with a justified shooting. The circus these clowns in L.A. are running shows that they can’t bully everyone. I can’t justify Dorners shooting proclivities but this incident may have brought things to light within LAPD they otherwise were content to keep hidden.


44 posted on 02/11/2013 6:24:31 AM PST by Ian Hawk
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To: Nepeta

I would place him somewhere in Canada. Not as much heat at the border as Mexico. There are plenty of isolated wooded areas to cross back and forth without encountering I C E.


45 posted on 02/11/2013 6:44:28 AM PST by Ian Hawk
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To: DTogo

What it takes is 1. Put yourself on the guments radar. & 2. have a cowardly neighbor, relative or friend to rat you out.
Look at the hitler youth and the neighborhood wardens continuously on the lookout to report someone in order to look good to the Gestapo.


46 posted on 02/11/2013 6:44:35 AM PST by Ian Hawk
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To: Ian Hawk
I would place him somewhere in Canada. Not as much heat at the border as Mexico. There are plenty of isolated wooded areas to cross back and forth without encountering I C E.

He seems to be a very smart guy who planned this for some time. He may have created a second identity months ago, and established himself somewhere well outside of California. If he did this, he could be working and living among people who won't even think of him as possibly being Dorner because they've known him as someone else well before this manhunt.
47 posted on 02/11/2013 8:21:04 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Ian Hawk
I would place him somewhere in Canada. Not as much heat at the border as Mexico. There are plenty of isolated wooded areas to cross back and forth without encountering I C E.

He seems to be a very smart guy who planned this for some time. He may have created a second identity months ago, and established himself somewhere well outside of California. If he did this, he could be working and living among people who won't even think of him as possibly being Dorner because they've known him as someone else well before this manhunt.
48 posted on 02/11/2013 8:24:41 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
That’s going to be one poorly attended funeral.

Not really

49 posted on 02/14/2013 7:36:48 AM PST by South40
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