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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 10 February 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 10 February 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 02/10/2013 5:19:39 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: Girlene; All
I have a theory that obama has been involved with the CIA for much longer than any of us know. Wish I had some hard evidence to back it but nothing but one coincidence after coincidence for years now. Everything is circumstantial from his college days to before, to his eligibility,on and on and on. But, I still believe it.
even here:

http://rense.com/general84/brck.htm

I stumbled on this years ago. Lost it and found it again yesterday here. And its always been in the back of my mind.
Even tried to find the mysterious initials of both Russians,unsuccessfully so far. But, I haven't given up.

201 posted on 02/10/2013 12:27:23 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Girlene

Congress has absolute authority to summon anyone in from anywhere in the world and grill them.

If it is secret stuff, then close hearing.

If a majority of commitee does not so vote, then they can have the rump hearings that Conyers and Waxman always pulled.


202 posted on 02/10/2013 12:29:59 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: TomasUSMC

Great question,leads me back to my conspiratorial views again asking what are some of the reasons we would not attack a terror group such as the ones who attacked and killed four at Benghazi. Either while they are killing our people or days months later. Some good questions here.


203 posted on 02/10/2013 12:30:37 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: RetSignman

Graham can cut glass with conservative speak when he wants to, and he usual wants to in run up years to re-election, where he then slide skates down the senate halls to join some gang thwarting every conservative idea coming along.

Rinse and repeat. That’s Graham.


204 posted on 02/10/2013 12:32:48 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Girlene; All

Here’s along clip from your link. This could be the whole story behind the story of Benghazi. Hard to tell yet:everytime I think Benghazi has been told something new appears:
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Brennan’s hit squads were assigned to take out individual al Qaeda chiefs within Libya without drawing too much attention to themselves. The Benghazi attack was “blowback” from these covert operations, say Murphy and Webb. Stevens and the others were pawns in a mini-war they didn’t even know was happening.
John Brennan was given free rein in North Africa by Obama, a book says.
Splash News
John Brennan was given free rein in North Africa by Obama, a book says.

The authors present a detailed account of the events of the night of Sept. 11, 2012 that they say they got from unidentified people with first-hand knowledge.

Ambassador Chris Stevens, as he revealed in his diary, was well aware of jihadist dangers in the area: Some 50 “security incidents” ranging from failed homemade bomb attacks to rocket-propelled grenade strikes on Western institutions had taken place in the city between mid-2011 and mid-2012.

But Stevens was unaware of the extent to which Brennan’s secret campaign had stirred up the al Qaeda militias, the book alleges.

The defenses at the consulate (actually a temporary mission facility, the authors point out, meaning it wasn’t meant to be a permanent diplomatic home) were light, considering the long string of violent incidents that had taken place in the area that year.

Around 9 p.m. came an attack that would carry on through the night. The consulate’s first line of defense was four locally hired security guards and another man on the front gate. All five of these rent-a-cops, who were armed only with baseball bats and no firearms, immediately fled when the attack began. One of them, Murphy and Webb say, may even have opened the gates for the dozens of armed al Qaeda fighters who came swarming into the compound.

That left Ambassador Stevens and IT worker Sean Smith defended only by five inexperienced Diplomatic Security Service agents. When Stevens and Smith fled to a safe room, the attackers smoked them out by lighting up diesel fuel. Smith and Stevens eventually choked to death on the smoke.

Meanwhile, DSS agents called for help from the nearest Americans, at a CIA compound defended by much more experienced security men. Team leader Ty Woods, who had spent 20 years in the Navy SEALs, in minutes put together a plan in which he and five others would load up their weapons in a pair of armored Toyota Land Cruisers. Woods had a heated discussion about his rescue mission with his CIA boss, who opposed the idea, though the authors say it’s unclear whether Woods simply ignored orders or persuaded his superior to change his mind.


205 posted on 02/10/2013 12:42:49 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

The dude has certainly gotten away with a lot......the media’s love affair with obama explains a lot without any other backing.


206 posted on 02/10/2013 12:44:05 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!
FOX Roundtable this week brings introduction to the new on the national political scene, Congressman Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Articulate and knowledgeable and a Republican who is not shy in the public arena, particularly important when TV appearance is involved. He would resolve the sequestration dilemma by leaving the defense spending basically as is and favors cutting unnecessary, and or frivolous, social programs. Based on his military service in Iraq he supports the drone program because it is under the purview of the CIC, the US President. He further said that a federal judge should never be involved in military operations. When Wallace asked first term Congressman Cotton his thoughts about Senator Marco Rubio responding to the upcoming State of the Union address by President Obama, he was enthusiastic in that Rubio is a fresh young voice (as is Cotton) for the Republican party and thinks his selection is a good choice. POWERLINE blog has an interesting writeup on Tom Cotton's background. Impressive. Oh,the South East Arkansas Tea Party Express enthusiastically endorsed him and held a rally in Hot Springs on his behalf. Tom Cotton won and became the fourth Republican congressman from Arkansas.
207 posted on 02/10/2013 12:47:15 PM PST by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which is stands.)
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To: shalom aleichem

As more people become aware of allegations that Brennan was runing secret ops in Libya, elsewhere, to stir things up, there should be more pressure to do so. So far Congress only seems willing to question the folks with the most to hide/gain from any cover-up, vs. getting to the whole truth of what happened.


208 posted on 02/10/2013 12:57:17 PM PST by Girlene
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To: RitaOK

If I may Rita, I would like to post an excerpt from a piece I wrote in 2008: (Has America Been Defeated Without a Shot Being Fired?)

[I have always been a person who has looked at the glass as being half full, I have taken heart in our small victory’s of revealing political malfeasance in office only to see them remain in power. I have seen the people we have elected and believed in, go to Washington and become nothing more than washed out shell of why we elected them.. I have been naive in believing that our country would always be on the side of right and our that our Constitution would never be abridged. I, naively, believed that if we were on the edge of destruction, true patriots would emerge and fight back and save our nation. I have seen none, they are not there, all we have are politicians with their main goal is self, clutching to their power as a child would of his security blanket.]


209 posted on 02/10/2013 1:19:45 PM PST by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: Alas Babylon!

Larri, Larri?

Larri, I’m here talkin to ya Larri....

Larri, will ya just look at this for one dadgum second Larri?

COCK-A-DOODLE-DOO!!!

Sorry Larri...sometimes I just kinda get carried away.


210 posted on 02/10/2013 1:33:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: All

I just got this in an e-mail and its not formatted very well but it definitely of interest.

This sheds light on why Eric Holder remains as AG of the US. Regardless of the outcome.,Holder will protect the “O”.

VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

AP - WASHINGTON D.C.

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College ... Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T!

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

A: Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?

A: There are only three possibilities.

1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,

2) He traveled with a British passport, or

3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?

A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.


211 posted on 02/10/2013 2:00:22 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Email hoax??


212 posted on 02/10/2013 2:26:43 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: kabar; rodguy911
Something isn’t adding up here, first phone call to Washington from the Tactical Operations Center, at the top of the incident, approximately 9:42, as noted below in Background Briefing. Do Panetta Gen. Martin Dempsey at 10:32 sit on this and don’t react for another 28 minutes? This long of a wait, after the almost 50 minutes it takes for whoever first took a call for help? That’s about 78 minutes wasted after the first call for “help”, which would have been quite a specific call, as you'll see the situation the agent in the TOC(Tactical Operations Center) is in, then adding the last 30 minutes, that's 108 minutes passed...;

10:32 p.m. — The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. “The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey.”

11 p.m. — Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/obama-administration-continues-explanations-on-benghazi-decision-making/

According to the timeline Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were told of the attack about an hour after it started, as both men were on their way to the White House for an already scheduled meeting with President Barack Obama. Thirty minutes later the president was directing the Pentagon to do all it could to assist, according to senior Pentagon officials.

Background Briefing on Libya
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: ...At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound.

...that agent from the top of this incident, or the very beginning of this incident, has been on the phone. He had called the quick reaction security team, he had called the Libyan authorities, he had called the Embassy in Tripoli, and he had called Washington. He had them all going to ask for help. And he remained in the TOC.(Tactical Operations Center)

(more on the TOC )...The Tactical Operations Center, which is just across the way from Building B, has offices and a bedroom. That’s where the security officers had their main setup, that’s where the security cameras are, a lot of the phones – it’s basically their operations center. So I’ll call it the TOC from now on.

A few minutes later – we’re talking about 9 o’clock at night – the Ambassador retires to his room, the others are still at Building C, and the one agent in the TOC. At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound. One special agent immediately goes to get the Ambassador in his bedroom and gets Sean, and the three of them enter the safe haven inside the building.

...The other agents who have heard the noise in the – at the front gate run to Building B or the TOC – they run to both, two of them to Building B, one to the TOC – to get their long guns and other kit.

...I should also have mentioned that at the very first moment when the agent in the TOC seized the people flowing through the gate, he immediately hits an alarm, and so there is a loud alarm. He gets on the public address system as well, yelling, “Attack, attack.” Having said that, the agents – the other agents had heard the noise and were already reacting.

...Okay. So we have agents in Building C – or an agent in Building C with the Ambassador and Sean, we have two agents in Building B, and we have two agents in the TOC.

...A third group of attackers tried to break into the TOC. They pound away at the door, they throw themselves at the door, they kick the door, they really treat it pretty rough; they are unable to get in, and they withdraw.

213 posted on 02/10/2013 2:30:52 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: Girlene; kabar
Fox News has now learned that the FBI and CIA have contacted the Global Response Staff (GRS) and Special Operating Forces teams who were involved that night and warned them about sharing information from the rescue efforts that night and have threatened to prosecute further leaks.

Sounds coverupish to me.

Can't have "leaks" conflicting with Senate Committee testimony and "the official narrative" now can we.

214 posted on 02/10/2013 2:45:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: truthluva

This guy does not usually hoax. All I know is i got it, passed it on.


215 posted on 02/10/2013 2:56:55 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Son House

Hey it’s Benghazi nothing ever adds up.


216 posted on 02/10/2013 2:58:10 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
No, can't have any leaking on Benghazi.....whoops, someone wrote a book about it already allegedly based on insider information. Comes out on TUesday.

The secret war behind Benghazi If the allegations are true, both Brennan and obama have a lot of explaining to do.

Will Congress address this?
217 posted on 02/10/2013 3:01:12 PM PST by Girlene
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To: rodguy911

That exact email has been around since at least 2009. Maybe it’s the first time he has seen it.


218 posted on 02/10/2013 3:03:58 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: truthluva

Sorry I had no idea.
I don’t second guess or believe anything any more just pass stuff along.


219 posted on 02/10/2013 3:11:23 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...

And now, time for the Sunday Show Transcripts:

Fox News Sunday: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/2013/02/10/rep-nancy-pelosi-sen-john-mccain-avoiding-automatic-spending-cuts

Meet the Press: http://nbcumv.com/mediavillage/networks/nbcnews/pressreleases?pr=contents/press-releases/2013/02/10/meetthepresscli1360516744023.xml

Face the Nation: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57568590/face-the-nation-transcripts-february-10-2013-graham-reed-and-rogers/

This Week: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-powerhouse-roundtables/story?id=18441687

State of the Union: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/10/sotu.01.html


220 posted on 02/10/2013 3:21:05 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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