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Helicopters Search Big Bear For Ex-Cop Triple-Murder Suspect
Village News ^ | 8 February 2013

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:35:24 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

RIVERSIDE - Three law enforcement helicopters flew above the Big Bear area tonight in search of the fired Los Angeles Police Department officer suspected in the revenge slayings of a college basketball coach and her finance in Irvine and the early morning ambush killing of a Riverside police officer. The truck belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner was found burning just off a forest road in the area late today, authorities said.

All the areas where someone could have walked away from the truck were being searched by ground, Cindy Bachman of the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said at a 9 p.m. news conference. "I'm not aware of any evidence found near the truck, nor am I aware of any explosives," Bachman said. Bachman said she was not aware of any vehicle having been stolen since the burned out truck was discovered.

Deputies have gone to about half of the 400 vacation homes in the area and there were no signs of forced entry at any of them, Bachman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thevillagenews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bigbear; christopherdorner; copkiller; dorner; helicopters; leftwingmurderer; manhunt; partisanmediashills
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Someone on another thread indicated radio communications indicated military helicopters from Homeland Security were also being used.
1 posted on 02/08/2013 4:35:29 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

How is America gonna manage to keep away from these rabid, left-wing, Regressive, radical forces, aka, “typical Obama voters”?


2 posted on 02/08/2013 4:38:01 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

This killer is LEFT WING, of course, praising all of the left wing media by name!! Crickets....


3 posted on 02/08/2013 4:41:42 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If a guy who knows what he's doing doesn't want to be found, it's awfully hard to find him.

Recall Eric Rudolph and Danny Horning.

4 posted on 02/08/2013 4:44:29 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

A coach and her finance? Do these people bother going to college now?


5 posted on 02/08/2013 4:44:38 AM PST by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: wastedyears

College actually teaches them to be stupid these days


6 posted on 02/08/2013 4:47:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He probably carried a motor-cycle in the truck and rode off before the timer was set to burn the truck.

He’s long gone.


7 posted on 02/08/2013 4:49:22 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Left winger radical goes rogue, starts massacring his enemies


8 posted on 02/08/2013 4:50:21 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: sodpoodle

Saw them do that in ‘The Mechanic’ - the real one, from 1972 with Charles Bronson.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 4:56:06 AM PST by Ken H
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Note how the discussions of the manifesto happen to fail to mention that the guy is a flaming lib who expresses support for Obama and Hillary?
10 posted on 02/08/2013 4:58:25 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Two things:

1. This guys is seriously dangerous and must be taken out at all costs.
2. I wonder if his grievances just may be legitimate.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 5:06:27 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: yldstrk
Left winger radical goes rogue, starts massacring his enemies

This guy is a libtard's wet dream. Going around killing people that he disagrees with. I think most liberals fantasize about killing their political enemies.
12 posted on 02/08/2013 5:07:28 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: cuban leaf
2. I wonder if his grievances just may be legitimate.

May be, but it doesn't justify unlawful killing, does it?

13 posted on 02/08/2013 5:11:58 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

May be, but it doesn’t justify unlawful killing, does it?


No, it doesn’t. But it may explain it. What McVeigh did was not justified, but it was the last fatal fallout from Waco.

It’s one reason I don’t stick my arm in a lion cage.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

What matters now is what degree of planning he used prior to this, and the competency of his plan.

If this is typical, he is now just trying to flee. But if it was well planned, with prepositioned caches around the state, his could very well circle back and continue his attack on the LAPD.

Essential elements of this are based in layered deception, convincing them he is going somewhere and doing something other than what he is doing. And when they discover the lead is false, they find other false leads.

Being a left-winger, and supportive of gun control and other such foolishness, indicates that he is not smart enough to have well thought out his actions, and is instead relying on experience and luck.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 5:17:09 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Mr. Bill goes on a rampage. MSM quiet.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 5:24:25 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I heard about this on the radio yesterday. It sounded like the plot of a Hollywood movie. Nothing was mentioned about the contents of the manifesto.

He doesn’t seem to be following the set program, though. (you know, shoot ‘em up then kill yourself). Wonder how this will play out? Also, it seems the people he’s killed have little or no connection to his grievance. Prayers all the way around.


17 posted on 02/08/2013 5:29:49 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: cuban leaf

*** 2. I wonder if his grievances just may be legitimate. ***

Judging from his history, my guess is no.

He washed out of flight school. Became a REMF
He failed to fit in in the LAPD and lost his job
He lost his Mil security clearance and was RIFed.
His home was repossessed 12/12
Has serious bully/rage issues, made worse by what appears to be roid rage from his chemical body building the last 10 years

All his life’s failures are other’s fault, he even remembers names of people he beat up in elementary school for “disrespecting him”.

The guy is an affirmative action ticking timebomb, and it was just a matter of time before he snapped.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:08 AM PST by wrench
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To: ZX12R

yeah I totally agree, the liberals wish they could wipe all dissenters off the face of the earth


19 posted on 02/08/2013 5:44:47 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

“The rampage began with a double homicide in Orange County on Sunday. One of the victims, Monica Quan, 28, was the daughter of a former Los Angeles police captain who had defended Mr. Dorner in his disciplinary proceedings.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/former-los-angeles-police-officer-sought-in-shootings.html?_r=0


20 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:19 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Being a left-winger, and supportive of gun control and other such foolishness, indicates that he is not smart enough to have well thought out his actions, and is instead relying on experience and luck.

Leftists are certainly fools, but they're also very cunning. Just look at the hundred years of planning and dedication it's taken for them to destroy the United States.

I get the impression this madman's been planning this out since the day he lost he job. If that's the case, it's going to be a long, bloody ordeal.

A strong candidate for the target of America's first domestic drone strike is quickly emerging here.

21 posted on 02/08/2013 5:49:51 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Justify? No. Explain? Yes.

“If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for the law: it invites every man to become a law unto himself, it invites anarchy.” SCOTUS Justice Louis D,. Brandeis.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:38 AM PST by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: wrench

The guy is an affirmative action ticking timebomb, and it was just a matter of time before he snapped.


You’re probably right. Only God and those directly involved know for sure.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 5:54:44 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wastedyears

No, they just use spellcheck.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 5:56:03 AM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
it doesn't justify unlawful killing, does it?

No, and that's supposed to go both ways. Recall the photo of that blue pickup truck yesterday. It was two Asian ladies delivering papers, not a 270-pound black guy. That's too perfect of a mismatch to believe, but that didn't slow them down one step. That truck wasn't just shot at, it was "bullet-ridden" per MSM articles. That makes me think that the LAPD has never had any intention whatsoever of taking this guy alive under any circumstances, or the officers are poorly trained in firearms use, or the officers are trigger-happy, and that's a little worrisome.

25 posted on 02/08/2013 5:56:34 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: cuban leaf
"2. I wonder if his grievances just may be legitimate."

I think he's just plain crazy.

And, as was the case with Major Hasan, everyone knew he was crazy and and a danger to himself and to others, but rampant political correctness prevented anyone from even thinking about doing anything about it.

26 posted on 02/08/2013 5:57:27 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: y'all

Timeline of events. . .

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Timeline-Ex-LAPD-Officer-Suspected-in-Shooting-Spree-Had-Sued-The-Department-190206031.html


27 posted on 02/08/2013 5:57:54 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: deks

If you have not heard it yet.....get ready.......
“he must be reacting to discrimination against him”


28 posted on 02/08/2013 6:03:32 AM PST by Einherjar
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To: Sooth2222

Yeah, I suspect that in his mind the grievances are legit. That is true with most crazy people, no matter how absurd the position may be to a sane person.

I find that, though I may find a person’s actions abhorrent, I also find myself, immediately on hearing of things like this, wondering if their complaint is legitimate, even though it does not justify their actions.

I remember the first thing I thought when I heard about McVeigh bombing the BATF headquarters on the anniversary of Waco: Well, at least the guy picked a military target. I didn’t side with him, but my reaction was different than it would have been if he had blown up a shopping mall.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 6:05:47 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Ann Archy
This killer is LEFT WING, of course, praising all of the left wing media by name!! Crickets...

The lack of outrage in the media over the cops shooting up the vehicles of innocent people just because they look like the ones the suspect is driving is also curious.

30 posted on 02/08/2013 6:10:40 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Someone on another thread indicated radio communications indicated military helicopters from Homeland Security were also being used.

Hussein is probably itching to bring in a drone; he can use this as justification to fly them over America and the ground has already been broken when he starts using them to kill his enemies.

31 posted on 02/08/2013 6:10:52 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The dude is out past Lucerne Valley now and probably to Needles.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 6:17:11 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: sodpoodle

He would be a fool to remain in the wilderness. Like you said, he probably switched to a bike. With helmet and gloves he would be anonymous. Go a few hundred miles and he will be outside the search area. He probably has a dozen buddies willing to give him shelter.


33 posted on 02/08/2013 6:19:12 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: Fiji Hill

Not really. There are no Republicans to blame.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 6:21:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: sodpoodle

They’d have seen the motorcycle tracks, and if that were the case, they wouldn’t be talking about searching all the places he could have reached on foot. They said they found his tracks, so they must have been foot tracks if they are focusing the search like that.


35 posted on 02/08/2013 6:22:07 AM PST by Boogieman
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They said they found his tracks, so they must have been foot tracks if they are focusing the search like that.

I think the way they will know they found him, is when the officer on point gets shot.
36 posted on 02/08/2013 6:24:51 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: jiggyboy
That makes me think that the LAPD has never had any intention whatsoever of taking this guy alive under any circumstances

He's a black cop killer. The LAPD will not risk an OJ verdict.

37 posted on 02/08/2013 6:26:05 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I wonder if there are snipers on the helos. There was a case a few years back I think in Alaska or the northwest where a survivalist had gone nuts and killing folks and he got into a fire fight with snipers on a police helo. One of the helo snipers was shot and killed the other made a phenomenal shot from the helo to hit the perp.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 6:26:50 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: stansblugrassgrl
Dorner Unchained
39 posted on 02/08/2013 6:32:46 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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I agree with this.

Of course, the Big Bear Lake area is developed and well paved, so the foot tracks probably ran out pretty quickly.

40 posted on 02/08/2013 6:34:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Boogieman
They’d have seen the motorcycle tracks, and if that were the case, they wouldn’t be talking about searching all the places he could have reached on foot. They said they found his tracks, so they must have been foot tracks if they are focusing the search like that.

He unloads the bike a couple of miles walking distance from where he sets fire to the the truck. Cops confused.

41 posted on 02/08/2013 6:35:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Resolute Conservative
One of the helo snipers was shot and killed the other made a phenomenal shot from the helo to hit the perp.

I'd bet that any successful kill from a helicopter, has some luck involved. I'm not 100% certain, but in the case you site, I believe he was killed by a bust of full auto.
42 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:29 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: stansblugrassgrl

The girl killed was the daughter of one of his enemies on the police force. At least I thought she was.


43 posted on 02/08/2013 6:39:16 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You would think a manhunt for a cop killer would be garnering a little more attention, especially after the newspaper delivery folks were shot up..


44 posted on 02/08/2013 6:41:27 AM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I suppose anything is possible. I don’t think he is as prepared as his manifesto purports though. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have been trying unsuccessfully to steal a boat, and still driving his own vehicle that he knew the police were looking for. I’m also pretty certain that his claim to have MANPADs was just blowing to smoke to try to dissuade them from tracking him with choppers. So I figure he is just winging it at this point.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 6:43:02 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: cardinal4

Is it just me, or does the perp resemble a bulked-up LL Cool J of “NCIS LA?”


46 posted on 02/08/2013 6:47:28 AM PST by Ax
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To: Boogieman
I suppose anything is possible. I don’t think he is as prepared as his manifesto purports though. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have been trying unsuccessfully to steal a boat, and still driving his own vehicle that he knew the police were looking for. I’m also pretty certain that his claim to have MANPADs was just blowing to smoke to try to dissuade them from tracking him with choppers. So I figure he is just winging it at this point.

That could very well be the case, it certainly looks that way as of now. However, I found this quote from his manifesto interesting:

The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation.

It seems he really does intend to continue to carry out attacks.

Also, just heard on the Big Bear scanner, that several people living in the area have reported hearing two shots fired.
47 posted on 02/08/2013 6:55:33 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: ZX12R

Shots may have been at Big Bear Asian ladies delivering papers...


48 posted on 02/08/2013 7:25:40 AM PST by yadent
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To: Ax

Yes he does. I was trying to think of who reminded me off..


49 posted on 02/08/2013 7:46:46 AM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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Shots may have been at Big Bear Asian ladies delivering papers...

Or dogs...

50 posted on 02/08/2013 7:53:14 AM PST by abb
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