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Chanting at Camarillo High basketball game sparks rally, racism concerns (Chanting USA! USA!)
http://m.vcstar.com ^ | february 7, 2013 | Jeffrey Dransfeldt

Posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:37 AM PST by lowbridge

The four students wearing the bandannas came to the Scorpion Dome for the JV and varsity rivalry games. Valenzuela said that between the games, an associate principal came over to the stands and warned students not to curse or make racial comments. The school official saw the bandannas and told the four students to remove them or leave, Valenzuela said.

The four went outside, then ran back inside the gym at halftime with their bandannas on and began chanting “USA, USA.” The four were ushered out and given five-day suspensions, which were later rescinded, Valenzuela said.

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Asking the students to remove the bandannas was a precaution, Lipman said. The two high schools have diverse student bodies, Lipman said, and the chant could be interpreted in different ways.

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Wearing patriotic clothing is acceptable, Lipman said, but the chanting gave him pause.

“We wanted to make sure (the chant) wasn’t racially motivated, and I told the kids I just want to be sensitive to the feelings of everybody,” Lipman said. “If we’re doing it for patriotism, that’s fine. But if we’re doing it for something else that’s racially motivated, I’m not going to allow that.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; racism

1 posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:49 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Welcome to Acirema, where chanting “USA, USA” is insensitive and possibly racist. God help us, even though we’ve passed the tipping point.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 4:11:18 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: lowbridge

Only in Obama’s America could chanting ‘USA, USA’ be considered racist.


3 posted on 02/08/2013 4:17:55 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: lowbridge
The two high schools have diverse student bodies, Lipman said, and the chant could be interpreted in different ways

INCORRECT.
This is still America.
If you are living in America,if you are going to school in America, you can only have one interpretation of USA USA....

4 posted on 02/08/2013 4:28:20 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I wonder what chant would not be considered racist...UN..UN..UN..go UN...strange what we have become...


5 posted on 02/08/2013 4:35:32 AM PST by Youngman542012
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To: Youngman542012
I wonder what chant would not be considered racist

"Tu mama si puta", is not racist but might not garner a welcome from the undocumented bastards.

6 posted on 02/08/2013 4:42:43 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: lowbridge
“If we’re doing it for patriotism, that’s fine.

I'd sure like to know what his definition of patriotism is......

7 posted on 02/08/2013 4:45:23 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: USS Alaska
"What if someone calls my mama a whore?" "Is she?"
8 posted on 02/08/2013 4:59:47 AM PST by EEGator
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To: lowbridge

how pray tell is chanting USA racist? Oh were there a lot of Mexican nationals there? Sheesh, last I heard they wanted to be in the USA. They should be thrilled to have confirmation they are in the USA!


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:00:00 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: lowbridge

“We wanted to make sure (the chant) wasn’t racially motivated, and I told the kids I just want to be sensitive to the feelings of everybody,” Lipman said. “If we’re doing it for patriotism, that’s fine. But if we’re doing it for something else that’s racially motivated, I’m not going to allow that.”

This man thinks chanting USA is racially motivated. How disgusting.

Hooray for those 4 Americans.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:40:02 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: lowbridge

Comments disabled at the source. Well, that’s totally surprising...not. The fishwrap obviously can’t let out that the majority of local LEGAL residents probably back these kids to the hilt.

}:-)4


11 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:26 AM PST by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: lowbridge

It would have been OK for the other side to chant “Mehico” though.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 5:57:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: lowbridge

This is stupid as “Valenzeula” is an Hispanic surname. The pointing was probably about something else. My daughter graduated from this school.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 6:04:32 AM PST by merry10
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It would have been OK for the other side to chant “Mehico” though.

A few years back, we were enjoying July 4th at Grapevine Lake. Before the fireworks began, someone at a nearby site shouted "Viva Mexico!"

In turn, I shouted back, "Viva Los Estados Unidos!"

Crickets...lol.

14 posted on 02/08/2013 6:15:16 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: lowbridge

“USA” is not a race


15 posted on 02/08/2013 6:18:16 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: winkadink

I’m so damn sick of these quislings and their concerns over “sensitivity.” I have news for him, LIFE is insensitive, and nobody has the right to think they can go through it without being offended by somebody.

I wonder if he’d show the same quivering worry if someone got called a gringo.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:14 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: lowbridge

Actually my sympathies lie with the principal, who seemed to have done everything right. First some background.

1) The students intended to agitate and create trouble, even violence. Patriotism had nothing to do with this. They could have been yelling “Donuts!”, and if the other team saw that as offensive enough to get angry about it, it would be a problem.

2) The principal warned them beforehand that he did not want them to agitate. Supporting your team is one thing, attacking the opposing team is something else. But after appearing to comply, they disrupted the halftime with their demonstration.

3) Despite their efforts, the disruptive students did not accomplish their goal, and subsequently, the principal saw no need to punish them for it. Also a wise move on his part.

4) The leader of the students is *still* trying to agitate, using social media to do so. I’ve got no sympathy for him or his attempt to create trouble, as the purpose of a *game* is to play a *game*, not start fights.


17 posted on 02/08/2013 6:56:25 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: lowbridge

The fact that the principal thought the USA chant was provocative proves that he thought the other team was “too Mexican”. He’s the true racist.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 7:02:08 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

could you provide a link to the social media agitating you mention. Thanks!


19 posted on 02/08/2013 7:03:12 AM PST by Deathtomarxists
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To: NTHockey

But Mexicans chanting “Osama, Osama” is perfectly Okiley-Dokiley.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 7:03:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lowbridge

sensitive to the feeeelings of all

Good God.. spew alert!


21 posted on 02/08/2013 7:12:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: lowbridge
Lipman said. “If we’re doing it for patriotism, that’s fine. But if we’re doing it for something else that’s racially motivated, I’m not going to allow that.”

Huh?

22 posted on 02/08/2013 7:35:54 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Deathtomarxists

It was in the original article.

“News of the incident quickly spread after the game to social media including Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

“To be honest, this is what I wanted to happen,” Medeiros said of the attention. “I was texting people from the minute I got suspended to start blowing it up on social networking, email whoever they could, call whoever they could.”


23 posted on 02/08/2013 10:04:04 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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