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Goodbye, Prius? Japanese carmakers drop battery electric-car development
The Washington Times ^ | February 4, 2013 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 02/04/2013 10:41:56 AM PST by jazusamo

Japan is backtracking on battery electric-car development, as even Nissan’s vice chairman, the so-called “father of the Prius,” announced plans to copy Toyota and pursue fuel-cell cars that convert hydrogen to electricity.

“Because of its shortcomings — driving range, cost and recharging time — the electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars,” said Nissan’s vice chairman, Takeshi Uchiyamada,..

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: automakers; electricvehicles; failedgreen; fuelcell; nissan; prius; toyota
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To: roadcat

You are 100% correct. The earth worshipers have been able to get the upper hand in the “environmental” debate. The tide has turned and their “theology” has been proven to be false and now the hard work of rolling back their gains has begun. In regards to combustion engines billions have been spent by large corporations and governmental entities in an effort to improve mileage and reduce pollution. What have we gained? Marginal improvements on the edges and unsafe vehicles that cause more harm than the environmental effects they sought to mitigate. Innovation does not come by way of large corporations and government mandating change. Having worked in both environments there is no innovation only incremental change on the technologies that are already available. The Dept of Energy’s 21st Century Truck program failed and it had 16 of largest players in the automotive/truck industry and three federal agencies involved. What did they gain - better idling on Class 8 tractors. Money down the drain and all we get is better idling on the big rigs - give me a break. Along comes a little guy and he creates a way to move everything forward. This is how change happens in this country. The establishment or those invested in the status quo resist change, buy out potential threats, or smear the innovator. This is taking place in this country in regards to this technology. History is full of such examples and the latest is the MRAP vehicle program designed to save our soldiers from IED blasts. A guy in his garage came up with the final solution and could not get the Army to use it. They insisted on developing their own. We had the solution and the government was insisting on its own solution while our guys were dying. It took intervention by the Senate Armed services Committee get this technology deployed. Change is coming and conditions have to be right or desperate enough before they are accepted.


51 posted on 02/05/2013 5:57:33 AM PST by DakotaNative
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To: reg45; Red Badger
Hybrid diesel - It worked for the U-boat.

One obvious, yet totally ignored solution! Or how about just plain diesel. Many cars sold in the US have brilliantly engineered, computer controlled, clean-running, small turbo-diesel counterparts on sale in the rest of the world that achieve 2-3 times the fuel mileage, with no loss in "performance,*" while meeting EU emission standards which mimic California's. That FIAT 500 gets 70 mpg with diesel power in Europe. Lucky to break 30mpg here in the US! Ditto, the VW TDI.

If the American car passenger fleet were diesel powered, fleet mileage could more than double and there would be NO NEED for fuel importation.

Somebody in government was frightened in utero by a smoky old MB 190 D, and we are doomed to suffer ever since? Perhaps if we had a POTUS who could actually change a tire or check his own oil?

*in re "performance:" WTF says a humble Honda Civic has to have better 1/4 mile times than a 1975 Ferrari? This is a country with speed limits which rarely top 70mph on the interstates ... and with stop lights every 500 yards everywhere else? As a car buyer, would you trade 2 seconds more "0-60" in exchange for another 20 mpg?
More on the idiotic "stoplight" policy later. Many are completely unnecessary, many others could easily be replaced by my favorite: the round-about, which has the added advantage of killing off more inept drivers.

52 posted on 02/05/2013 7:02:29 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: Kenny Bunk

All modern freight locomotives are diesel-electric hybrids, and have been for decades. Perhaps they know something the US government doesn’t.........


53 posted on 02/05/2013 7:24:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Kenny Bunk
The problem with diesel is this. Our current oil refineries have been optimized for the production of gasoline - diesel is a secondary product. They would have to be re-engineered to produce more diesel and less gasoline.

Or new refineries would have to be built. Between the enviro-wackos and the Obama-bots, that will not happen.

So there is a chicken/egg dilemma. If refineries are modified, an expensive and time consuming process that is usually only done every twenty years or so, there would have to be enough demand to justify a change in process engineering, otherwise the modified refinery would be producing a product without a market.

54 posted on 02/05/2013 8:00:42 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: roadcat
>”A pompous brother-in-law of mine”<

YOU have one of those too?

MINE doesn't talk to me much anymore. We were discussing Three Mile Island, he hates Nuke Plants of course, and I asked him how many people died there. He didn't know (of course), so I gave him a hint, “one less than died in Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile”.

Needless to say, the conversation ended rather abruptly.

55 posted on 02/05/2013 8:32:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
YOU have one of those too?

I have several, sigh... This one is married to a sister that is just as liberal. I would send links of proof rebutting his statements, she got upset and said don't send anything else, so we don't email anything anymore to each other. Another is bankrupt, he and his wife spent themselves into a deep hole because they're Obama-lovers and believed the recession was over. He actually told me he's been waiting for the economy to rescue them, so that's why they kept spending. He spends within his future means (thinks the economy will go like gangbusters any minute now). Another is sponging off taxpayers, takes advantage of every government handout. Can't stand any of them.

56 posted on 02/05/2013 1:03:33 PM PST by roadcat
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To: reg45
Diesel=heating oil=powerplant fuel. Diesel is one whole hell of a lot easier to produce than gasoline. It needn't be catalytically "cracked," for one thing.

Speaking of gasoline, our government (remember them) has mandated "boutique" fuels, which vary wildly from region to region, depending upon what bogus science they are using in the region.

Diesel has to be de-sulfured, for example, which makes things much more complex than necessary.

You want to blame Bush for something? Blame him for letting the EPA run things. He spent 8 years doing very little about oil, weird for a man reputedly once in the awl bidness.

57 posted on 02/05/2013 2:26:38 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: reg45
Hybrid diesel - It worked for the U-boat.

It worked for Volkswagen, in Germany, in 2008. I think it got 79MPG.

58 posted on 02/06/2013 5:38:20 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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