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Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?
Worldnet Daily ^ | 2-3-13 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/03/2013 11:10:10 PM PST by Texas Fossil

Why does the civilian Department of Homeland Security need billions of rounds of ammunition?

This is the agency that is responsible for policing the border. But it doesn’t.

This is the agency that is responsible for catching terrorists. But it doesn’t.

So why does Homeland Security need so many weapons and enough hollow-point rounds to plug every American six times?

Maybe this is the “civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the Defense Department.

These words – “civilian national security force” – have haunted me ever since I first read them.

Obama has never explained what he meant.

He’s never been called to account for that remark.

Doesn’t this sound like police-state talk to you?

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KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bloodoftyrants; govtabuse; guncontrol; homeland; obama; secondamendment; security; tyranny
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Sure he would like to disarm the citizens and destroy the division of power in our government. He would like to break the chains of the Constitution on his actions.

Will he try?

1 posted on 02/03/2013 11:10:21 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
OBAMA WANTS 25 MILLION DEAD.
Does that answer your question?
2 posted on 02/03/2013 11:16:37 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Could happen, but he will pay a dear price my friend.


3 posted on 02/03/2013 11:19:51 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Hey Joe, Keep yer powder dry.


4 posted on 02/03/2013 11:22:02 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Texas Fossil

They need all that ammo. I saw a bunch of feds shooting on a range in NM, and they couldn’t shoot worth a s—t. What gets me is that they bought ammo that the military can’t use vis’avie the Geneva Covention. That means that they are planning to shoot us with ammunition that they won’t allow the military to use on our enemies! So what the hell, I have started buying the same ammo that they do. Apparently, so did everyone else!


5 posted on 02/03/2013 11:22:10 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: mylife

Yep and gather lead.


6 posted on 02/03/2013 11:23:33 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Nod and a wink


7 posted on 02/03/2013 11:26:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nucluside

” I saw a bunch of feds shooting on a range in NM, and they couldn’t shoot worth a s—t.”

My cuz’ who came back for R&R as he is stationed in S. Korea, went to a firing range near Vegas the following afternoon after enjoying the town the night before. The next 4 guys beside him wore FBI clothing and they were yakking’ it up like they were Rambo. They went through 3 mags each and nowhere couldn’t hit the bulls-eye.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 11:29:29 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Nucluside

I bought some new brass and some Hornady 200gr FTX bullets for the .348 Winchester. That one is a thumper.

Also shoot a more civilized version that is cheap to load.

Have to admit finding brass was a bit difficult.

One of my reloading orders took 25 days to get. From a good company. they are running 2 weeks lead time and the phone que has been over 20 minutes since the November election. They had huge inventory, but it is showing some holes now. All the reloading supply companies are.

Shelves are pretty bare in the retail stores that sell ammo too.

Don’t think Obozo and team quite expected this reaction. Not just in good old boy country, but nation wide.

We shall see how this works out I guess.


9 posted on 02/03/2013 11:30:15 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: max americana
They went through 3 mags each and nowhere couldn’t hit the bulls-eye.

That's why they need billions of rounds. For practice, silly.

10 posted on 02/03/2013 11:33:04 PM PST by llevrok (Unlike Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: Texas Fossil
>"Doesn’t this sound like police-state talk to you?"

Hellen Keller, water?

The war on drugs wasn't a war on drugs, it was a war on citizens. It's almost too late now.

11 posted on 02/03/2013 11:38:43 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Texas Fossil

Imagine what the MSM would say if individuals were stockpiling ammo...


12 posted on 02/03/2013 11:39:24 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Texas Fossil

Maybe they’re planning on passing out weapons to Holder’s people like they’re currently passing out cellphones and food stamps.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 12:03:52 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Nucluside

So what the hell, I have started buying the same ammo that they do. Apparently, so did everyone else!
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Nah, figure to let them hump it and them fancy guns over to me. More cost/labor effective that way. ‘Sides, they may bring a little grub too.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 12:15:39 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a Democrat above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Because a huge 100 mile diameter alien space ship is approaching our system and they are very hungry and to them we are the chickens so to speak?

Its all propaganda, they say they have billions of rounds, we have millions with tens of thousands. Do their bullets shoot themselves?

They are just trying to pull the wind out of the sails of any armed 2A gathering.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 12:18:53 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Texas Fossil

We’re stockpiling too...


16 posted on 02/04/2013 12:18:53 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: VideoDoctor

Maybe they’re planning on passing out weapons to Holder’s people like they’re currently passing out cellphones and food stamps.


We have the post of the day right here folks-—Right Here.


17 posted on 02/04/2013 12:24:00 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a Democrat above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Back order, it works for me. All the mail order places are getting bullets & brass shipped in; just amounts way down. Most of the good stuff is back ordered out soon as it arrives. Get on the list, for me wait time has been 3-4 weeks but I’m getting everything eventually, even mags.


18 posted on 02/04/2013 12:31:11 AM PST by Eska
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To: Nucluside

They couldn’t shoot because the ammo has no value to them.

They don’t pay for it.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 12:32:40 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yosemitest; Texas Fossil

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


20 posted on 02/04/2013 12:38:50 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Texas Fossil

dhs is ohole’s brown shirts. state national guards and sheriffs are goijng to have to fight them along with freedom-loving americans.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 12:52:48 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of the most dangerous weapons to liquidate LIBERALS, is a pocket pistol.
22 posted on 02/04/2013 1:06:33 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Texas Fossil

Hope and change.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 1:07:34 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Yosemitest; Texas Fossil

As long as 25 mil die he does not care which side. His minions are expendable. This is the way this half breed commie thinks. He does not care if it is true blue American Citizen or one of his brown shirt thug.

TF, your reloading “quest” further down the thread reminds me of mine for my 300 WIN Mag last month. Sheesh, bullets from Virginia, brass from North Dakota, etc. Good to go now...

Started stockpiling early turn of century and have been refreshing the stockpile. Had just bought the 300 WIN Mag so was behind the curve on it.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 2:23:58 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Texas Fossil

Wow...not yet one post calling WND crackpot, birther, conspiracy theorist, etc... (good news)

Should cause for alarm with NaziPolitano, Bronco Bama running things


25 posted on 02/04/2013 2:40:27 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Texas Fossil

I don’t know how many armed personnel that DHS has but there are 200K people that work for DHS. 20k in the Border Patrol and at least that many in the rest of CBP. They qualify quarterly and shoot an average of 100 rounds a quarter.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 2:56:54 AM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m beginning to think that they simply want to deplete the supply of guns and ammo for the general public...while they figure out and implement a longer-term policy of “ending our gun culture”.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 3:38:55 AM PST by BobL
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To: Texas Fossil

You bet your boots he will not only try, he’s doing it now and no one in government has the cajones to stop him. Disgusting bunch of do nothing Republicans in Congress.


28 posted on 02/04/2013 4:26:23 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: VideoDoctor

“Maybe they’re planning on passing out weapons to Holder’s people like they’re currently passing out cellphones and food stamps.”

What will they do with them? Form a circle and shoot each other? Hopefully, they’ll make a nice tight circle so that they won’t waste so much ammo :)


29 posted on 02/04/2013 4:53:47 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: BobL

I think that’s not unlikely.

With prices/demand up from the civilian market, I wonder when a manufacturer/supplier says “to heck with this Federal contract, I’m selling the stuff where I make some MONEY! Those guys can wait.”


30 posted on 02/04/2013 5:03:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: VideoDoctor
Maybe they’re planning on passing out weapons to Holder’s people like they’re currently passing out cellphones and food stamps.

Can you say battlefield pick ups?

31 posted on 02/04/2013 5:19:00 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: VideoDoctor

Given the nature of obama and his fellow travellers, you might be more right than you know.

They did arm up the sinoloa cartel.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 5:45:12 AM PST by Texas resident (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on FR)
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To: BobL

That’s what I was thinking.


33 posted on 02/04/2013 5:49:39 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Texas Fossil

So, where are these stockpiles located? Just wondering....


34 posted on 02/04/2013 5:53:34 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: meyer

I have read about citizens seeing truckload shipments in transit, but have seen nothing that I felt was solid evidence.

No, we don’t want to overreact to this. But we know that nothing that this administration says is the truth. And I am convinced Obozo truly intends to destroy the US for his foreign masters. His every action gives him away.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 6:00:43 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: meyer

I have read about citizens seeing truckload shipments in transit, but have seen nothing that I felt was solid evidence.

No, we don’t want to overreact to this. But we know that nothing that this administration says is the truth. And I am convinced Obozo truly intends to destroy the US for his foreign masters. His every action gives him away.


36 posted on 02/04/2013 6:00:56 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Eska

I found that looking locally worked better for me. Found quite a bit of ammo in smaller local stores, prices weren’t that bad. Bought once fired brass from 2 nearby sources and ordered some of the larger brass from the only place that had it on hand. Feel like I am in pretty good position to assure that I will have ammo for the rifles I already owned.

Have also tried to look far out covering the event that ammo was seriously unavailable. Don’t shoot exotics, and for what I shoot I could cast bullets to hunt. And I do reload most of the calibers.

Am I being paranoid? I don’t think so. Just cautious.

And very upset with the Fed overeach.


37 posted on 02/04/2013 6:11:03 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Cabelas doesn’t even list 5.56 or 7.62x51 now. Nor the powder, brass, or bullets to reload those calibers.

At least, not here in the Rogers, MN store...


38 posted on 02/04/2013 6:15:07 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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I was in a Cabela’s on saturday, and they actually had a bin of 30rd AR-15 mags (limit 2).

Also, they had 7.62X39 in plenty (steel case),

but no a single cartridge of .22LR.


39 posted on 02/04/2013 6:19:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Fossil
Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?

To shoot Americans who don't go along with the One World Government.

40 posted on 02/04/2013 6:20:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: MrB
Yep. They had 7.62x54R listed too...

Was looking for a can of Accurate 2230. Not listed.

62 or 65 gr .223 in SP or HP boattail. Nothing. Some off brand 40gr bullets, but no Sierra, Remington, Winchester, or Hornday. No 5.56 brass. Primers are all on backorder.

Haven't checked Brownells, Midway, MidSouth, or the others yet...

41 posted on 02/04/2013 6:30:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Did you try bulkammo.com?


42 posted on 02/04/2013 6:39:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Never thought I’d see the day shooting my 10mm would be cheaper than shooting my AR’s...

Also note, even BA is out of 7.62x51.


43 posted on 02/04/2013 6:44:26 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: MrB
I looked at about 10 online sites for .22lr yesterday. Couldn't find any worth a damn....

I did manage to find some .380 auto which was tough to locate too.

44 posted on 02/04/2013 7:00:10 AM PST by lwd
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“but no a single cartridge of .22LR.”

I was able to pick up 100 rounds at Wal Mart on Friday. They had about 1,000 rounds in stock, but it was $17.97 per 50 rounds.


45 posted on 02/04/2013 7:47:39 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Dead Corpse
At this point there are a lot of sources for bullets and powder. Brass is tighter.

You can either cast or swage bullets. Casting is pretty cheap, swaging requires heavy press and dies. At this point is not normally cost effective for an individual.

There are a lot of manufacturing facilities in Texas who could easily make jacketed bullets.

46 posted on 02/04/2013 8:19:29 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I have about 3000 .223 once fired. Mixed head stamps. Some mil crimped. Can get more easily enough. I have a bunch more loaded for everything from distance to varmints.

Was looking in to a set of casts for 180gr 10mm. Just haven’t gotten around into that madness yet.


47 posted on 02/04/2013 8:45:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: VideoDoctor

Not completely unimaginable.


48 posted on 02/04/2013 8:50:47 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Texas Fossil

HOW is govt purchasing stockpiles of guns and ammo? Where are they getting the money for it?
You send it to them. If you don’t like what they are doing with your money, stop sending them money.
That, alone, will get their attention.


49 posted on 02/04/2013 9:23:13 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Cast bullets for utility use is very practicle. One of my bullet molds (Lee C-308-170 FP) works well in my 30-30 but can also be used in .308 and 30-06 if needed. (<$20 mold)

I reload with jacketed bullets, but it is nice to have the option on cast.

Reloading 30-30 with cast bullets, if you already have the brass, can be done for 12-15 cents per round. Pretty cheap hunting ammo. And it works well. It is not effortless. Properly sorting and melting wheel weights is a challenge today. Lots of variables, but the natural hardness of the right wheel weights is almost ideal for medium velocity cast bullets.


50 posted on 02/04/2013 10:36:08 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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