Posted on 02/03/2013 1:31:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Mark Kelly, husband of former Rep. Gabby Giffords, spoke to Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday this week, reiterating his support for universal background checks and responding to the NRA’s anti-gun control arguments. Simply put, Kelly said, less people would die due to gun violence if the legislation were put in place.
Wallace looked to the example of Jared Loughner, the gunman who opened fire in Arizona, killing and injuring many, including Giffords. He passed a background check, Wallace noted.
Loughner clearly was mentally ill, Kelly said — and if his condition was entered into the background check system, presumably he would not pass. Arizona, he said, hadn’t entered 121,000 records into the system, and that could certainly make a difference given that 1.7 million have been rejected since 1999.
Wallace further asked what difference a limit a restriction on high-capacity magazines would be make. Kelly replied that it does matter, because the time spent reloading is time for others to restrain the person.
Next on the list was the controversial assault weapons ban, which the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre vehemently opposes. Previously, LaPierre has said, the ban didn’t work, so it’s not necessary now.
“I don’t know if it worked or not,” Kelly said. “I haven’t at all the statistics. Common sense tells me that if it is much more difficult for criminals and the mentally ill to get assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and guns in general, we will save lives.”
Having served in the military, Kelly said he knows the value of assault weapons — in when used in mass shootings, more people die. He did agree with LaPierre that many gun laws need to be better enforced, but also asserted the need to close the gun show/private seller loopholes.
“This isn’t about the Second Amendment anymore,” Kelly said. “This is about public safety.”
There isn’t sufficient legislation, he continued, leading Wallace to point out the NRA’s political clout and ask how much, realistically, can be achieved on the gun control front.
Both sides of the aisle agree we need to do something, he said. It’s not going to be easy, but we need “common sense” answers. “I know the value of an assault weapon, and it’s to kill a lot of people very quickly,” Kelly added.
Asked for his message, “man to man,” to LaPierre (who was on in the next segment), Kelly said: He’ll say background checks don’t work, but that’s not true.
“I hope Mr. LaPierre can think about what would his members want,” he said. “Seventy-four percent of NRA members think it is a very reasonable thing to do to have a background check before buying a gun. … I hope he would listen to his membership because members of the NRA tend to be very reasonable on this issue.”
No, it’s always about the second Amendment. There is never a time when, you want to infringe in some way, that it’s not going to be about it.
Has this guy been a lifelong Baraqqi, or just fall into the trap after hooking up with a Dem chick in 07?
Wonder how much Kelly is making on this tour.
If he’s an astronaut, I assume he is former or current military, right? And he doesn’t know that a firearm can be reloaded in 2-3 seconds? Huh?
There’s a ton of info on Loughner that has been kept quiet. I was stunned when I started googling..
Yes, Mark, it is about the Second Amendment and always has been. Educate yourself, maybe even you can learn something.
Or would that not fit your agenda?
This is about money. Sarah brady move over. Gabby Giffords is the new gun control poster child. Psst honey. We can make lots of money protesting guns
They already have background checks except for the illegal and criminals.
BUT, BUT, BUT Joe Biden said the gun laws we have on hand now cannot be enforced because there are not enforcers to do it....so why do we need more gun laws??????Hmmmmm????
The latter
I live in AZ CD 2, Gabby Giffords old district. The talk here is that Mr. Kelly wants a political future, and he is using his wife’s issue to obtain it. The question is: what office will he seek - her old congressional seat, AZ governor (2014) or John McCain’s seat (2016). Ms. Giffords has achieved sainthood down here and he easily could capitalize on it.
Regards,
GtG
A gun control whore just like his wife.
I object to background checks for several reasons, primarily that it provides a permanent record of a transaction thereby acting as a de facto registration, wastes time and money, and restricts trade. Every gun owner I know involved in private sale transactions is aware of the responsibility associated with the transfer of a firearm. Most sales are to friends and/or fellow collectors. Because I have a common name, I’ve had to wait over a day to get permission to buy a gun. In the world of collectible firearms, many an opportunity to acquire a desired item would be lost just waiting for approval. And then there’s always the question: “What do you really accomplish by having a background check?” Do most guns used in crimes come from legal transactions or were they stolen or black market firearms? I think we overlook the obvious; that someone with intent to do harm will do so, whether it be guns, hammers, poison, fertilizer, bats or whatever as the method of delivery.
permits require permission... which can be withheld
a right cannot be withheld... only denied
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
exactly how did some govt flunky get the ability to deny me my rights? show me the Constitutional foundation for it
You are correct...why should be submit to more scrutiny than our elected officials submit to?
My background check is under Obama’s birth certificate.
I see he’s working for Elon Musk now, I wonder if that is an influence also?
“I know the value of an assault weapon, and it’s to kill very quickly any crazy AR-15 armed nut bent on massacreing kids about to enter a school,” I added.
Mr Gabby is in this for money and attention. His wife was shot with a pistol, not an “assault weapon”. He’s another Sara Brady, a hanger-on exploiting a personal tragedy for profit. He is scum.
Merchant Marine Academy, Naval Aviator.
In a sense, he’s right. It is, first and foremost in the minds of the obamas, feinsteins, schumers and so on, about their inexorable march toward absolute power, through the creation of a massive imbalance of force between the government and its employers. Very similar to a cabal of capos conspiring to overthrow and assassinate the don in order to split all the goodies among themselves.
Less people would be killed on the street if we were all marched to a gulag. I decline!
He was an A-6 pilot on the USS Midway in Japan. Except for the Seals and EOD guys, the Navy isn't crazy about shipboard people having personal firearms. There is very little firearms training in flight school.
Do you mean something like the brady gang?
“This is about public safety.”
I have some health problems and the only I can keep my wife safe is with a firearm of my choice. I guess mr kelly was to big a wuss to protect his wife.
How long would it take before every non-communist in the country was classified as having an “anti-social personality disorder”?
Mr Gabby = space cadet
Mark Kelly’s had nothing original to say.
He simply regurgitated all the same talking points we have heard over and over again and that have been debunked over and over again.
This man is a puppet who once wore a spacesuit.
That’s the impression I get...This is all the predicate to his own political aspirations. Just like Sandra Fluck. I foudn him rather unimpressive in the Wallace interview. He got all soft and disoriented when asked about any legislation’s chance for passage.
Not 'Less people would die'.
But 'less people would die due to gun violence'.
See, stabbings, strangulations, poisonings, bludgeonings, suffocations, drownings, death by fire, crashing into victims with cars, all these are FINE. It's *gun* violence. *THAT'S* the problem.
Y'see.
I despise Kelly, but this is unfair, and a heinous comment. Almost wondering if it should be flagged for removal.
...”Wonder how much Kelly is making on this tour.”...
It is difficult not to wonder about those things, isn’t it? I watched the softball interview done by liberal Chris Wallace and I was not impressed with him or with Kelly.
...”Wonder how much Kelly is making on this tour.”...
It is difficult not to wonder about those things, isn’t it? I watched the softball interview done by liberal Chris Wallace and I was not impressed with him or with Kelly.
Gloria Bunker: “Daddy don’t you know 10,000 people a year are killed by handguns!’’. Archie Bunker: “Little girl, would ya feel any better if dey wuz pushed outta windows?’’.
Says you.
...”Mr Gabby is in this for money and attention. His wife was shot with a pistol, not an “assault weapon”. He’s another Sara Brady, a hanger-on exploiting a personal tragedy for profit. He is scum.”...
I agree with you.
I’d say your experience would have been different on a Cruiser, Destroyer or Frigate. We trained the whole crew often on everything from 50 cal MGs and smaller. We had a privately owned sniper rifle on the bridge because Surf-Pac wouldn’t give us one.
do what you gotta do.
Why is the SERIAL NUMBER and MODEL NUMBER needed for a background check?
It seems to me that you should ONLY check the person and be done with it. Nothing is gained with serial and model numbers,UNLESS someone is trying to build up a database for later confiscation (which, of course, our government denies they want to do)
Another Brady Bunch, trading on tragedy and sympathy to push their leftist agenda.
This sort of skin-deep reasoning amuses me. It's like the old story about the guy who encounters a drunk on his hands and knees groveling around in the street. The guy asks him what he's doing and the drunk replies, "I'm looking for my keys". The man, wanting to be helpful, joins the search asking, "Where did you have them last?"
The drunk points down the road. The man asks why he's is all the way over here and the drunk replies
"The light is better over here"
They know what the proximate cause is but they're either to lazy or just too dishonest to fix the root problem. It's easier to attack the innocent.
In any event, he's starting to get on my nerves. He's the Left's newest poster boy. He's everywhere.....like a beady-eyed little ferret that gets in your basement and annoys the hell out of you trying to get rid of it.
Leni
I take it they are openly talking sedition now!?!
And no, the Cops never caught him (or her).
Looks like I'm starting to dislike Astronauts as much as I dislike Clowns.
Yep, pretty mean comment, but I think people trying to abridge my God Given Constitutional Rights deserve all the ridicule I can muster.
Background check to help insure firearms don’t get into the hands of the mentally ill...certainly sounds like a good idea.
But, who gets to decide what is ‘mentally ill’?
Universal background checks on all firearms transfers...sounds like a good idea. But, will the criminals comply?
In point of fact, neither of these ideas would have prevented Newtown.
The only proper immediate response to an armed bad-guy is an equally or better armed good-guy. The police have no obligation to protect anyone, and are mere minutes away when seconds count.
Arm yourself, protect yourself, defend yourself.
Add presidents to that list.
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